College Football Week Eight Game Thread

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My impression is that you’re arguing that replay “works” because the officials made a ruling on the field, announced that the play “stands” (a subjective term of art), and nobody is throwing spears at each other for women and food stores. Conversely, they could have ruled the play was overturned and replay still would be considered to “work.” That argument doesn’t really get at whether he was over the line.

I’d say the long axis of the ball is at about a 10-15 degree angle from the sideline, and I think that’s a generous estimate. I don’t see how that really matters. The view from the sideline a few feet from the incident was more than adequate to show that the ball is touching out of bounds before it touches the pylon. Also, the view from high above the back of the end zone shows that the ball never made it inside the pylon. Both of those together make it impossible for the ball to have broken the plane.

It seems you’re arguing that replay “works” because the officials made a ruling on the field, announced that the play “stands” (a subjective term of art), and nobody is throwing spears at each other for women and food stores. Conversely, they could have ruled the play was overturned and replay still would be considered to “work.” That argument doesn’t really get at whether he was over the line.

Referees have to make calls on the field and then decisions on replay. I think they got this one wrong. Oh well. As someone pointed out earlier, when players don’t execute (28’s lack of situational awareness even though his and Franklin’s responses suggested he was told to get down), when you turn the ball over in your own territory, when you take a lot of stupid or untimely penalties, and when you miss a couple of pretty easy FGs, the answer can usually be found in a mirror.
I'm focusing on the execution of the replay review. If you look at my first reaction to the play... I posted "nope."

The guy in the striped shirt standing on the goal line saw it differently. I don't think the video angles (FS1 isn't giving us the SEC on CBS array or camera angles) gave the booth enough to overturn it. I'm a big fan of that being how replay review works. The years of enduring the NFL with no rhyme or reason inconsistently determining a catch or no catch is probably to blame for my current satisfaction with this process.

The resolution on the high camera you refer to was shit... it was pixilated like a flip phone photo.
 

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I understand that there's a lot of Michigan hate around here, but that was a dominating game against a favored Gophers team.

Milton is going to be a weapon for the Wolverines this year.
 

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If the ball doesn’t get inside the pylon, which it didn’t, how does it break the plane if it’s touching the white out of bounds before it touches the pylon? You’ve described a scenario that didn’t exist on this play.
The ball does not need to get inside the pylon to be a touchdown, the pylon is an extension of the goal line. If the ball goes over or touches the tiniest fraction of the outside edge of the pylon it is a touchdown.

EDIT: To overturn, the replay official would need a conclusive camera shot that the ball touched the ground before it hit the pylon. So you would need a still frame of the ball on the ground touching nothing else. I haven't seen that shot yet if it exists.
 
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Penn State could have won the game if their RB doesn't score late in the game. That's on them. Ball don't lie.
Indiana had taken two timeouts. No one on Penn State was capable of doing any math. 1 minute 47 seconds is 107 seconds. Not snapping the ball until there's one second left on the play clock (twice) is 78. So, all Penn State's 4 plays (which could include standing there and kneeling down when someone got close, in college ball you don't have to get tackled) had to do was kill 30 seconds. Not that hard to do; and if you flub up, the worst that's going to happen is you give them one play from 40+ yards out of field goal range.
 

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My favorite part of Ford failing to drop at the one yard line was Fitz signaling touchdown in his face.

Oh...and fuck draft kings. If the ruling on the field had been that it was not a TD that would have stood. For the first time in forever Big Ten refs didn’t give the call to the ranked team.
 

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My favorite part of Ford failing to drop at the one yard line was Fitz signaling touchdown in his face.

Oh...and fuck draft kings. If the ruling on the field had been that it was not a TD that would have stood. For the first time in forever Big Ten refs didn’t give the call to the ranked team.
DraftKings paid out Indiana bettors.

As Reds said, this was for promotion. If you are betting and the service gives you a refund for a loss, you will be indebted to them for life. It's nothing more than a marketing move.