Bravo.
The only fitting penalty for the Marlins is to vacate the MFY WS championships won by their ownership.
Covid and MLB
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The only fitting penalty for the Marlins is to vacate the MFY WS championships won by their ownership.
Well, this IS the season where a sub .500 team has the best chance to win it all.
Andy Slater is a radio personality in Miami.
SLATER SCOOP: The Baltimore Orioles now plan to leave Miami tonight, I've learned.
So, that means no game at Marlins Park tomorrow.
View: https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1287779462403235841
SLATER SCOOP: The Baltimore Orioles now plan to leave Miami tonight, I've learned.
So, that means no game at Marlins Park tomorrow.
View: https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1287779462403235841
The only thing the MLB owners appeared to care about was getting the most concessions it could from the players, so the owners could make as much money as possible, no matter what. It doesn't look like MLB did much in the way of planning around Covid and installing full protocols designed to keep everyone healthy.
Or Wednesday or Thursday, presumably. Unclear if that means the games will be postponed/canceled in their entirety (in which case don't see how they could make all those up) or whether they'll just play the games in Camden Yards (of course if I were an Orioles employee I wouldn't want the Marlins anywhere near my stadium at the moment).
NASCAR has also been running effectively with only a few little blips, and that has been going on for months. Yes, the drivers are separated while driving but the crews are all in close quarters with one another and we are talking about hundreds and hundreds of people coming in from all over the country each week to work. They have also been super strict on masks.
So as usual, Florida fucks it for the rest of us. But as much as it sucks, stopping it might be the best way.
This was going to happen anyway. Yeah, the Marlins were first; but this was always going to happen
They have, including at the All-Star Race having 30,000 fans at Bristol Motor Speedway (the speedway has a capacity of 160,000) although I'm not sure how safe that really is, as it would be hard to trace all of those fans and see how many of them got Covid-19 in comparison to the rest of the general population.
Understandable, but I’m guessing many of us on this board live in the Northeast, where the numbers are now a lot better. As opposed to Florida, who did a big shrug to all of it.
With all the precautions and testing etc that the MLB presumably took, it took just a few days for covid to emerge.
Its not a good sign for other less strenuous endeavors by asset constrained entities (like public schools) to control this disease.
We have to close everything down for 2 months to try and choke this thing out.
and then pray.
Its not a good sign for other less strenuous endeavors by asset constrained entities (like public schools) to control this disease.
We have to close everything down for 2 months to try and choke this thing out.
and then pray.
Yes this was an expected event. There should be a protocol in place. Either 1) all games that cannot be played because one team has an outbreak are cancelled and that team and their opponents play a reduced schedule or 2) the team with the outbreak is sent home for the season. A forfeiture of games seems unfair.
They should be saying “we knew this might happen and here’s the plan.”
They should be saying “we knew this might happen and here’s the plan.”
That is what I thought - and I have not heard anything related to any positive tests from these events, which is why I always wondered why for example, the Yankees could not allow say 15000 fans in their 60000 seat stadium. Sell tickets via lottery. Scan fans upon entrance. Mandatory masks. It is outdoors, just like the race
Marlins ain't been in Florida in a week. Seems this *might* have happened on the road.
The silver lining here is that this illustrates how far we are from beating this thing. Maybe a wake-up call and maybe it will fuel better decisions for things like school re-openings.
If Power 5 college football, especially SEC, shuts down, it will be the seismic event that maybe, maybe, is the wake up call we need.
If players known to be negative, assumed to be practicing preventative measures, are now turning up positive... how are they getting infected? Hard to believe this is a tale about the perils of air travel, as most teams started moving around less than a week ago.
That clip is a great example of MLB continuing to have its head in the sand. "I don't know how we make [the missed games] up or when" and "hopefully this is the worst outbreak we have" aren't exactly reassuring statements, and then he says that maybe "getting [the outbreak] out of the way early" might be beneficial, despite the complete illogic of that statement.
This is your second post in this thread splashing cold water on the notion that the team that calls the world's biggest COVID hot spot home may not have gotten the virus in the world's COVID epicenter. Any particular reason why?
Either false positives, as testing is not 100% reliable, OR, players who are breaking whatever quarantine measures that are supposed to be in place is my guess.
report says the initial guys got the virus when they were in atlanta before the regular season started
It isn't just about the buildings themselves though. You have to get people into the stadiums, through the entrance gates and concourses to their seats, then out again. Bristol is fairly isolated and surrounded by parking lots. Everyone going there is likely driving themselves. Yankee Stadium is in the middle of the city, surrounded mostly by other buildings. Most of the crowd there is arriving via public transit, in itself a danger zone.
Yankee Stadium's footprint is a third of Bristol Speedway's, so even at 25% capacity, you've got fewer entry/exit points and thus smaller choke points where distancing is much more challenging. For a race day (Sunday, presumably), trhey can open the gates relatively early (7-8am) and spread entry into the stadium out over a number of hours before the race starts. That's not typically how baseball games work. People mainly arrive 60-90 minutes before the game at the earliest, especially if we're talking weekday evenings. The logistics themselves are the biggest obstacle to spectator attendance at any big league stadium.
Likely Atlanta, typically takes a couple days to get enough virus to test positive.
5 days is most common for those of us not being tested serially.
Can you provide any amount of details to your post such as a link or even a name?
“Assumed” is doing a lot of work here. Hard to not point out that a lot players come from the states currently getting hit the hardest because “personal freedoms” and such.
True, and as a non-race fan I am not familiar with Bristol at all. But, with Yankee stadium, public transit is not really an issue - the trains are running anyhow already. I had not thought about the arrival times aspect though - that is a good point.
And didn't the Braves have to shut a couple players down with COVID symptoms right after the Marlins were in town?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29542203/marlins-starter-jose-urena-late-scratch-phillies
"It's possible that the infections occurred Wednesday on the team's trip to and from Atlanta, where the Marlins played the Braves in an exhibition game. Since leaving Atlanta -- after a flight delay -- the Marlins have been in Philadelphia all weekend for the team's opening series."
The trains may be running anyhow, but is it wise to add 5-10,000 more riders on a given night if it can be helped?
My point in contrasting how folks arrive at the different venues was more to point out that it is easier to social distance and isolate oneself if you're driving yourself to the event as opposed to sitting on a train or bus with strangers, even if everyone's masked and all precautions observed.
That said, I question the wisdom of letting fans in at Bristol anyway. Just because they can doesn't mean they should.
Doesn't necessarily have to be either of those. All it takes is one clubhouse attendant, bus driver, etc. who is positive to potentially spread it to an entire team.
The NHL has threatened heavy fines and draft pick forfeiture for teams whose players/staff inside the bubble are caught not complying with the bubble rules. Can't speak for the NBA, though I guess there was a guy on the Clippers who went to a strip club while on an excused out of the bubble excursion so I guess we'll see what happens there and how serious the NBA is? Silver seems pretty no-nonsense to me, but I don't follow the NBA closely enough to know for sure.
Also, as far as I know, none of the leagues have detailed their outbreak plans. The chorus among them all has been that 1 positive will not shut the thing down. Beyond that, nobody has said what that threshold is (which is understandable) or what happens when an outbreak hits.
It is just odd to me if that is the case. I work in nursing homes, and at the height of Covid here we had dozens and dozens of patients who were symptomatically positive, and had staff positive as well - but yet, it did not spread like wildfire because someone positive entered the same building. I mean, if these guys are wearing masks at all, it does not seem like it should spread so easily, when it did not spread so easily with our compromised patients, and certainly did not spread among healthy staff members. I would think athletes (who are healthier than most) would be better off. Which tells me, that most must not be wearing masks OR are not doing proper hand washing.
I read up thread that some teams or team did the whole jumping all over each other after a walk off homer? Is this true?
not knowing as I’m choosing not to watch baseball being played under/within these very difficult circumstances.
I expect they do have plans.
And you can ask them about these plans later today or tomorrow AM
