Craig Breslow: Red Sox CBO

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If they opt for plan C I hope the owners are ready for more plummeting ratings and interest in the team. Ultimately sports are entertainment and people have limited time and attention spans. If the team isn't successful and/or doesn't have marketable players they will not get eyeballs and butts in seats.

It may be a long term play that makes sense, but that doesn't mean people will tune in to watch it play out.

I love the red Sox and always will but my own time is limited now with a wife and two small kids. So while I will continue to follow the team's every move here and in the news, if the product on the field isn't worth my time I won't tune in.
2015 was pretty cool, actually. If we are coming around on a rebuild that you can actually see happening, I'll watch. If the kids suck and we are going nowhere, that's another story. tbd
 

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I get what Breslow is saying but run your own race is a stupid analogy. All teams are competing within the same finite pool of resources / players. If another team signs player a, the Sox by definition can not.

A more accurate comment would have been just saying they are sticking to their guiding principles and trusting their evaluations/process. But this would be viewed as Bloom-speak and pissed off the fan base. Not that running their own race didn’t.
Back in the good old days Theo would say that their guiding principle was to build a team that was expected to win 90-something-or-other games (92? 95? Can’t recall) this coming year. I preferred that simplicity.
 

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Other that Ohtani & Yamamoto, which free agents would you consider marketable players that fans would come out to see play? Mayer, Teel & Anthony all have the potential to be very marketable players, especially among a fan base that can say they were in on them from the beginning. Same with Casas & Bello. Jordan Montgomery & Dylan Cease aren't putting butts in seats in Fenway Park.

Winning of course does, no matter who is on your team almost. But I don't think you're winning at a high enough level with acquisitions like that to justify the potential damage to future winning.
Yeah outside of Ohtani or Yamamoto there isn't a lot to generate buzz I agree. I get why they weren't in on him (in terms of what we could offer and what our priorities are) but Soto would have been a fun addition. So I am hoping Breslow can put together a complete roster that can compete and win games.

Hopefully Mayer, Teel, and Anthony all turn into great players. But the odds of all three becoming those types of players are low I'd imagine. Plus after (REDACTED) was traded fans probably still don't trust that ownership won't jettison the next homegrown great players once they get expensive.
 

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Yeah outside of Ohtani or Yamamoto there isn't a lot to generate buzz I agree. I get why they weren't in on him (in terms of what we could offer and what our priorities are) but Soto would have been a fun addition. So I am hoping Breslow can put together a complete roster that can compete and win games.

Hopefully Mayer, Teel, and Anthony all turn into great players. But the odds of all three becoming those types of players are low I'd imagine. Plus after (REDACTED) was traded fans probably still don't trust that ownership won't jettison the next homegrown great players once they get expensive.
I hope so, too. But if it takes a year, it takes a year.

Speaking of potential fan favorites who hopefully will get there...everyone would do well to find someone who loves them as much as Yordanny Monegro loves striking out hitters.

I'm glad we get to watch the Yordanny strikeouts now...

View: https://twitter.com/Hunter_Noll/status/1694849890130473395
 

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I wasn't sure quite where to post this. This seemed like the most appropriate spot.
I was a big Bloom guy. One of the few who thought the Mookie trade was a good idea (at least at the time). I like what he was doing, and I was looking forward to seeing his plan come to fruition. I was bummed to see him let go.
But looking back, especially after seeing what Breslow has done, has me thinking differently. His moves in isolation looked good, but Breslow seems to be moving more deliberately in a direction. He's trading away players or contracts that are in one way or the other kind of meh for young, cost controlled talent with a high ceiling, and a strong emphasis on pitching. I liked the Verdugo trade a lot, but it wasn't until after the Sale trade that I realized his MO. I immediately thought "who's next?" and the names that popped into my head were Kenley, Story, and Yoshida. I think Yoshida sticks around because we'd be selling kinda low on him but we all know that rumors are swirling around Kenley. I don't think Story is on the block, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was our next surprise (heh heh), and his days are probably numbered with the kids coming up (unless he really starts hitting the ball again). Although I just checked his trade value and it was like negative a million...
Long story short, I like what the new guy is doing. And just out of curiosity, is there anyone out there who doesn't?
 

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From McCaffrey's latest mailbag:

I spoke with a few people at the Winter Meetings who asked me what the Red Sox were doing. It’s funny because I was going to them asking for the same insight from their perspective. One of these people is someone who’d been mentioned as a candidate for the GM job and decided to stay in their current role. They had a lot of questions about Cora’s influence on the front office, his looming desire to take on a GM job in the future, the short leash on recent GMs in addition to how much ownership lets the GM make their own decisions. It was interesting to hear this perspective and I do think a lot of executives across the league had similar questions.
 

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You know what just doesn’t pass the smell test? Cora having any influence on front office decisions.

He has one year left, he is most likely gone, NONE of the recent moves scream of a manager wanting to produce now. It makes no sense.
It was an example of the questions in the minds of many in the industry last fall which likely affected who actually interviewed for the top job here. Cora had made some statements in Sept/Oct that got people's attention MLB-wide. Short leash on recent GMs and scope of authority are legitimate concerns. In the end, I'm excited about Breslow at the helm.
 

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Encouraging stuff:

Breslow concedes that the Red Sox may be behind the curve when it comes to adapting their spring training principles.

“For some teams, candidly us being one of them, we’re evolving,” he said. “Other organizations have been early adopters. And when you talk about development, what better time than when you have all of your coaches, all of your departments housed in one place for six weeks, sometimes even more, and you’ve got this runway where you’re not playing games that are meaningful in terms of the wins and losses counting toward something?

“So those organizations that have failed to take advantage of this opportunity are behind and those that are kind of leading as it relates to player development have recognized that for a really long time and made the most of this opportunity.”
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Interesting, I wonder which teams have been leading in that area.

Lots of good stuff in that article. I really appreciate how open Bailey and Breslow seem to be to talking baseball and process. The previous pitching coaches seem pretty anonymous by comparison.
 
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Encouraging stuff:



McAdam
I agree this is encouraging. I appreciated this additional quote:


“I don’t think there have been enough clearly defined goals,” he said. “I think we’ve been slow to appreciate that spring training means something different for every player. There are players who are there to (just) prepare for the season and they know what that looks like; there are players there to get experience in spring training and get exposure to the major league staff; and there are players in-between who are there to compete for roster spots.



“But every players serves to get better in spring training, and for so long, it’s been, ‘Oh, we’re going to work on defense.’ Or ‘What are you looking to get better at?’ ‘Pitching’ Or “Hitting.’ Well, that’s not good enough. We have technology, we have data that allows us to pinpoint precisely how we need to get better on defense or how we can get better as a pitcher or as a hitter.



“So creating really well-defined goals and development plans around every player and ensuring that we’ve got our hitting, pitching, baserunning and defense coaches aligned with those plans, but also our medical staff, our strength and conditioning staff, our analytics staff, all speaking the same language so that we can ensure that every contribution is additive and not either diluting or worse yet, confusing.”
 

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I agree this is encouraging. I appreciated this additional quote:


“I don’t think there have been enough clearly defined goals,” he said. “I think we’ve been slow to appreciate that spring training means something different for every player. There are players who are there to (just) prepare for the season and they know what that looks like; there are players there to get experience in spring training and get exposure to the major league staff; and there are players in-between who are there to compete for roster spots.



“But every players serves to get better in spring training, and for so long, it’s been, ‘Oh, we’re going to work on defense.’ Or ‘What are you looking to get better at?’ ‘Pitching’ Or “Hitting.’ Well, that’s not good enough. We have technology, we have data that allows us to pinpoint precisely how we need to get better on defense or how we can get better as a pitcher or as a hitter.



“So creating really well-defined goals and development plans around every player and ensuring that we’ve got our hitting, pitching, baserunning and defense coaches aligned with those plans, but also our medical staff, our strength and conditioning staff, our analytics staff, all speaking the same language so that we can ensure that every contribution is additive and not either diluting or worse yet, confusing.”
That’s both completely awesome and a pretty stinging critique of the prior regime. Wonder how he views Blooms work there.
 

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I was thinking this could be a reason why we haven’t seen a Cora extension.
Yes and no, is my guess. There hasn't been any time since Breslow came on board to deal with a Cora extension, has there? Like if you're a new GM you need time to decide what you think about the manager -- though Breslow probably knew a fair amount about him beforehand -- and then decide? Seems like the subject of a Cora extension should be dealt with during spring training regardless, once the roster stuff is settled. Hell, they might even put it off til May or so.
 

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Seems like a bigger indictment of Cora.
That’s totally fair, but the types of observations he made seem even above the big league managers mandate, but perhaps I don’t understand the role properly. I’m referring to a system across all the levels and even into draft and IFA.