#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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There is no Rev said:
I preferred the Harrison Bergeron references in the early hours after the punishment was announced.
Vonnegut was one cynical dude, but boy did he get human nature.
https://twitter.com/CoachJim4UM/status/599290554225164288E5 Yaz said:
link to tweet
It's funny, because Padre Joe cared more about ball PSI at that moment than the entirety of the NFL before the AFCCG.
E5 Yaz said:
Yeah, what the hell is he thinking? This non-scandal is like a noxious gas that makes everyone remotely associated with it do remarkably stupid things.
There must be a fair number of people here who are old enough to have followed Jim's NFL career. Wasn't it his signature move to get "hurt" on seemingly every play, make it look like he got destroyed and then struggle to get to his feet and stay in the game and then play the next play like nothing happened? Like some sort of tough guy hero?
I am old enough to remember Harbaugh but not Jim Brown. That's interesting, never heard that about him.Bergs said:
well he is taking baby stepsEd Hillel said:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492127/article/michigan-reports-four-secondary-violations-under-jim-harbaugh
The Machiavel in me is loving this now. Florio is now channeling reports of complaints past about the Patriots fucking with communications. I do not believe the Dansby comment was accidental, and I don't believe the PFT links on this are accidental. I think the NFL is upping the ante -- you can soil out reputation and we can further soil your's.
Hardball.
Hardball.
Yes, I realize that, but it would be great to have a prior recorded account of this.Doctor G said:
And the thing is, it's like politics, the very people who should be reporting that all of these anonymous leaked half-truths are a huge problem benefit the most from them so they don't. I doubt Mort chewed out his source because his source was right enough that it got him clicks and next time that source gives him a crappy inaccurate note about a potential scandal he'll roll with it and get more clicks.Punchado said:
My guess is that Goodell and the NFL saw a chance to burn Belichick on a second offense and let the media run wild hoping Wells would find something there but when it didn't quite happen there was no choice but to go heavy on Brady and the team so that all the headlines, time, money, etc... would seem justified. We're Pats fans, but let's face it, if it took 4 months and 5 million dollars and the result was a $200k fine to the team or Brady, that would make the NFL look really bad and would have probably turned at least one owner, Jim Irsay, against Goodell and the league. As is usual, the NFL couldn't get out of its own way and completely lost control of a situation. The only good news for the NFL right now is that so many people hate the Patriots so much, that they can't even begin to think "what if the NFL treated my team this way over something as stupid as this?"
Who would have thought on January 1st 2015 that we would be where we are now?epraz said:
Here is my fictional scenario. In order to cover up some gigantic screw-up, someone in the league office hires a hit man and a murder is committed, then multiple murders follow. Congress intervenes, season is cancelled, multiple indictments involving owners, league officials, referees are handed out. League dissolves.
Dan Patrick today: "I guarantee you Rozelle or Tagliabue would have picked up the phone and called Tom personally: 'Tom, I got this fax from the Colts about ball pressure; let's not have any problems Sunday, OK, bud?' That would have been the end of it."
The rest of the country are morons. Who cares what they think. I'm with OFT, fuck 'em.Old Fart Tree said:
I'll bet Tom Brady was never disqualified for cheating in a golf tournament. Jerry was. He should really keep quiet.lambeau said:
You can make a very rational case for everything that has happened based on the undeniable fact that the NFL prizes parity above everything else. It would be an extravagant way to achieve more parity to be sure, but logically it is coherent.
lambeau said:
"Hey guys, now this may have been a little bit illegal, but I sprayed a little stickum on my gloves (mimes spraying on his gloves)."
I was misquoted! I mean lol.
He's admitting what he did was illegal, so what was it? Steroids? Child labor? jaywalking? I sprayed a little bit of jaywalking on my hands?
ivanvamp said:
I've read a lot of comments on Reddit from Saints fans along the lines of "Welcome to the club, guys."
Maybe we can join up with them and form a gang.
They do not have a dynasty going, per se, but they did win a SB -- and they had an entire season wiped out by the NFL. They were just leveled.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
And I am sure a lot of people were thrilled by that -- even though egregious misjustices were handed down, e.g. Vilma.
Food for thought the next time another team gets jammed up. And some of us go 150 proof PC, V&N in here -- especially when we react in knee fashion based on sketchy facts. It happens. A lot.
Edit -- yes, giving you some Mike Tyson this evening. Quotes for $800, Alex.
dcmissle said:
Or smirk at the Joe Paterno report -- which I kind of want to rethink after this experience.
Etc.
And their fine was nullified on appeal if I remember correctly.TomTerrific said:
The better comparison in my opinion is the Broncos videotaping the walk-through before the game in London in 2010. They skated completely on that one.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000109668/article/paul-tagliabues-full-decision-on-saints-bounty-appeal
Tagliabue as an appeal hearing officer vacating ALL Bountygate player discipline imposed by Goodell (thereby enraging Roger) makes interesting reading. He cites evidentiary flaws that are miniscule compared to Wells' in deciding the players could not be found
guilty of running the injury sheme, and he vacates all discipline for obvious obstruction of the investigation (massive lying and denials) stating "There is no evidence of a record of past suspensions based purely on obstructing a League investigation. In my 40 years
of association with the NFL...I can recall no suspension for such fabrication." If, as we think, TB is most vulnerable on the lack of full cooperation count, how Roger expects to prevail in court is beyond me.
BTW, Tagliabue held four days of evidentiary hearings with 12 witnesses, including cross-examination by counsel.
Tagliabue as an appeal hearing officer vacating ALL Bountygate player discipline imposed by Goodell (thereby enraging Roger) makes interesting reading. He cites evidentiary flaws that are miniscule compared to Wells' in deciding the players could not be found
guilty of running the injury sheme, and he vacates all discipline for obvious obstruction of the investigation (massive lying and denials) stating "There is no evidence of a record of past suspensions based purely on obstructing a League investigation. In my 40 years
of association with the NFL...I can recall no suspension for such fabrication." If, as we think, TB is most vulnerable on the lack of full cooperation count, how Roger expects to prevail in court is beyond me.
BTW, Tagliabue held four days of evidentiary hearings with 12 witnesses, including cross-examination by counsel.
lambeau said:
Yup, this is it - total recognition of the mess and embarrassment that is RG and his office.
After reading the Bree's quote up thread, I have a lot more pity on the Saints. I remember hearing people talk about how Goodell wouldn't get a clean meal in NO during the Super Bowl and now I see their point. The guy deserves spit in his food.drleather2001 said: