NavaHo said:The "league sources" are getting their ducks in a row and spreading the message that the Kraft PC has nothing to do with Brady treatment. Goodell will be even more the hero when he does reduce the suspension later.
You'll be missed I'm sure.Dirty Sanchez Forever said:Crazy is watching a rigged league any more.
Sure seemed like a begrudging concession.riboflav said:He sounded like and looked like a defeated man today. I felt sorry for him, a billionaire. Never thought that would happen. I think his heart has been in the right place and this was the last thing he wanted to do. I wish he didn't do it. Sort of just left the door open on all options while TB goes to court. But, if TB wins in court and Goodell is belittled by the judge in the decision, there will be vindication for the Pats (among some) and more so than if Kraft held his ground but went down in defeat.
That, and for $44 mil year, he probably gives zero fucks about getting spanked by a federal judge - he has no skin in that game.Harry Hooper said:
You don't get Roger. As long as he looks tough, it doesn't really matter how may times he loses in court.
NatetheGreat said:Question: if this does go to court (presumably after the appeals process plays out), how long would that take to resolve itself, assuming both sides put up a real fight? Like, what are the odds its still underway when the season picks up, and how would that even be handled--especially if, say, the court rules in Brady's favor, but after he's already missed games?
Agree with this. I kind of get that he probably had no other realistic or likely winnable options but I sure do wish his statement was stronger....riboflav said:I will add that my greatest concern today was his statement regarding how much respect he has for Goodell and the power of the commissioner's office. This is the kind of thing that rankles me as a Pats' fan both because it is viscerally uncomfortable to hear and because the Patriots are clearly targets of the rest of the league. It should also scare all NFL coaches, players, and fans about the long-term viability of the NFL.
MillarTime said:Fuck. This just keeps getting worse and worse.
The only recourse the Pats (and their fans) have at this point is on the field. I want complete and total annihilation, with extreme prejudice towards Jets, Colts, Ravens, and.......you know what, everybody. Fuck them all.
Dirty Sanchez Forever said:He's forsaking the legacy of the greatest coach/quarterback combo in league history, as well as his own for some abstract bargaining chip to use down the road? That's unfathomable. He's going to get booed out his own stadium on opening night.
RedOctober3829 said:Curran confirms that no brady deal came with the concession from Kraft today.
Jimbodandy said:A lot of folks wanted a blood feud, and I get that. But a wise man doesn't walk around popping every guy in the mouth who has something derogatory to say to him. Kraft has a right to be pissed off. He also has a right to exercise his business acumen and walk away from a fight. Sometimes you let the drunk guy yell insults at your back as you calmly walk back to your friends. It doesn't make me think any less of him. I am disappointed, but I trust him to continue to lead the franchise in a superb manner.
KingPK said:It's open season now. Any minor perceived skirting of sacred NFL rules will be immediately brought to the league since everyone knows if they whine and leak to the right people they can whip the public into a fervor and say that once again the INTEGRITY OF THE LEAGUE is in danger!
And if Brady serves the four games, his relationship with Kraft has to be permanently damaged. He leaves money on the table to help the franchise and THIS is what he gets?
Except Kraft now looks like a drunk guy who was yelling insults, and then sat down when his target stood up. And when the target got close he kissed him on the ass.
When Vegas posts the over/under on the number of owners that will vote to renew Goodell's contract, bet the under.garzooma said:When Irsay threw a tantrum and damaged the NFL by blabbing to a reporter, he got what he wanted.
When NFL personnel lied to reporters and damaged the NFL with the leaks, they got what they wanted.
Kraft's years of loyalty gained him extra punishment from the NFL, to show they weren't favoring him.
And looking at all of this, Kraft decides he needs to show more loyalty?
Can you say codependency?
Mystic Merlin said:I wonder how many flawed Simmons-esque analogies we can dream up?
lexrageorge said:The reports of "no Brady deal" are believable. As has been explained multiple times here, that is a player disciplinary issue, not a team one.
The reports of "no reduction in Brady suspension" are BS. Given that the appeal has just been filed, and there has yet to be a single hearing on the matter, there is no way Goodell could get away with making such a declaration without invoking a lawsuit filed by the NFLPA.
I don't know if this has been talked about, but has it been established that McNally talked with anyone after the investigation started? That would seem like a rather significant dog that didn't bark. Can you imagine sneakily deflating the footballs, having NFL personnel specifically ask you about that, and not calling anyone?AB in DC said:
This competes with "OMG Brady and Jastremski talked three times after the investigation started, so they must be guilty!!" as the absolute dumbest thing associated with this mess.
Yes. What I am angry about is his complete and total capitulation. He didn't just agree to drop the matter for the good of the league... he embarassed himself and the organization for no obvious gain.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:It doesn't cancel his previous accomplishments, but Kraft's continuing cowering before Goodell plus his unwavering support for a man clearly hell bent on destroying the franchise from without are going a long way to killing off both the league and the Pats organization. Backing down today was an unconscionable decision.
Al Davis was a great owner/GM once too. There's no reason why the same couldn't happen to Kraft.
To answer the question, we have every right to be angry at Kraft today for his refusal to stand up to a raving madman of a commissioner. Kraft's constant backing of this fucking moron has damaged the game ina profound way.
Yeah not gonna happen. The NFL successfully railroaded the Patriots. Over something they never even remotely demonstrated actually happened. And through it all, never were their lies and leaks and absurd, comical processes ever held up for scrutiny or critical analysis except here.PBDWake said:The only thing I wonder about, and I seriously doubt this is the case, is if there is some kind of back room deal with Kraft and Goodell, where Kraft drops this now, and after the season Goodell says that when reviewing the season's halftime inflation data, the Patriots balls do not look out of place, and reinstates the first. That way, Goodell looks like he comes down hard on the Pats, but gives him a plausible out for a reduction in suspension, at a time when nobody really cares anymore and there's enough space and time to avoid Kraft's puppet rumors. But that would be far too subtle and intelligent a move for the Sheriff. Kraft likely just realized he wasn't going to win and cut his losses.