#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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Thanks for that, Wiz. Someday when I'm up that way, I'm going to drive by the Brady house in San Mateo.TheWizard said:
And Polian. And Herm. And the entire Sour Grapes crew. I'd imagine lots of furniture being broken today in Bristol.RedOctober3829 said:
Theisman really continuing to dump on these idiots on ESPN radio.
Can't believe I actually have started to like Joe Theisman.
Can't believe I actually have started to like Joe Theisman.
ifmanis5 said:
This.
I don't think Goodell cares one whit about the decision other than it got a bunch of owners off his back. In fact, given the numerous "errors" that were made - and the fact that the NFL could have avoided this by settling for a one-game suspension - it is almost as if Goodell wanted to be overturned, because it's not really him being overturned but all of the other owners who wanted Brady's head being overturned.
What the NFL wanted was a ruling that Goodell could basically set the rules as he see fit.
What the NFL could live with is being overturned for notice/process reasons - things they can fix if they really need to.
What the NFL couldn't have was a ruling based on evident partiality.
I think the NFL is okay with the decision.
Corsi said:
"I don't understand this ruling. Brady was Goodell's fall guy. What's the issue?"
Just a small note: a question was raised in one of these threads whether PW had a potential ethics issue; I read below to hint at the Judge having the same question.
p. 37: "Compounding Brady's prejudice is the fact that, as noted, Paul, Weiss acted as both alleged "independent" counsel during the Investigation and also (perhaps inconsistently) as retained counsel to the NFL during the arbitration. 21"
p. 37: "Compounding Brady's prejudice is the fact that, as noted, Paul, Weiss acted as both alleged "independent" counsel during the Investigation and also (perhaps inconsistently) as retained counsel to the NFL during the arbitration. 21"
ESPN showing multiple tweets from players who are happy with the ruling and want to move on to football. Even James Harrison!
Yes, it is probably more support of the NFLPA rather than Brady himself.
Yes, it is probably more support of the NFLPA rather than Brady himself.
@tomecurran: Patriots have not discussed trying to recoup picks. Got clear sense they probably won't given Kraft's stating in SF he was standing down.
Becoming clearer to me that Pash was likely responsible for "at least generally aware" as the best that could be squeezed out of Wells. That would have been interesting testimony.
I wish there was a vehicle to investigate the NFL's conduct in this matter, specifically Kensil, the Colts, the leaks, etcetera.
I wish there was a vehicle to investigate the NFL's conduct in this matter, specifically Kensil, the Colts, the leaks, etcetera.
Sally Jenkins @sallyjenx 2h2 hours ago
I’m waiting for Lester Munson’s analysis of Berman’s written opinion as “masterful” and “brilliant."
I’m waiting for Lester Munson’s analysis of Berman’s written opinion as “masterful” and “brilliant."
There's nothing in that opinion that gives the Pats ground to get the picks back. If anything, Berman's reliance on Brady's lack of notice on equipment violation penalties, because the notice was to teams and personnel but not players, gives Goodell another leg to stand on.
They ain't coming back.
They ain't coming back.
That statement from Goodell is very good as such statements go. They obviously won't be seeking a stay, which would be idiotic. It also flags to me that they probably won't move to expedite the appeal -- there is no basis for that, it would fuck with the season if successful, and it would appear vengeful.
So this will probably to on the back burner to join the AP case on appeal. You hear nothing about that. I think we're clear of this for at least 9 months.
So this will probably to on the back burner to join the AP case on appeal. You hear nothing about that. I think we're clear of this for at least 9 months.
joe dokes said:
I just love the fact that Berman didn't fall for even a single ounce of the league's bullshit. The league coming back months later and saying "neener-neener none of this has to be independent, so there!" was so damn slimy.
jsinger121 said:
"Responsibility to protect the integrity of the game" Roger, there's also a responsibility to ensure fair process in the proceedings.
Other note: Berman left open evident partiality, so even if NFL wins the appeal they go back to Berman on the remaining issues. And they have a potential risk of having to disclose the Wells notes and communications to Pash, unless they get 2nd circuit to help them there.
They certainly have to appeal, but it wouldn't surprise me if they have a very narrow appeal that is not really designed to succeed.
They certainly have to appeal, but it wouldn't surprise me if they have a very narrow appeal that is not really designed to succeed.
Jim Trotter @JimTrotter_NFL 1m1 minute ago
Arrogance has been the Kryptonite of many powerful men. @nflcommish
Yes... he works for ESPN
Arrogance has been the Kryptonite of many powerful men. @nflcommish
Yes... he works for ESPN
Mackie Mac on now- says she is very surprised. Didn't really admit she advised Brady to drop the whole thing and move on. Says Goodell and NFL got what they deserved.
Fred in Lynn said:
Before he started rambling incoherently, he was skewering Roger on the "integrity of the game" canard, correctly pointing out the lack of integrity throughout the process.
No, he was rambling on about how all the players in the NFL are victims and transitioned into how they're kids from troubled backgrounds, etc. You have to had heard the particular conversation.dcmissle said:
