#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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I legit felt bad for BB during that press conference. This is a dude who never feels the need to explain himself - I mean, people should write books about his mastery of telling the media to fuck off 1,000,000 different ways - yet he was looking the world dead in the eye and saying, "Look, I really had no idea this happened" and then still took a beating afterwards. You have to imagine his players really appreciate the way he came out and took all of those bullets for something that may not have been intentional. Despite the world coming at him with pitchforks and torches he still praised his players and the organization and put the focus back on their effort the last two weeks.
There's feeling disrespected in the "I've convinced myself I've been disrespected and it may amp me up a bit more than usual for the first drive or two" sense, and then there's disrespected in the "Wait, you all really believe we didn't earn this?" sort of way. The latter can motivate guys for 60 minutes.
I really can't wait to see how this team responds on the field, for better or worse. I'm banking on it being for the better.
There's feeling disrespected in the "I've convinced myself I've been disrespected and it may amp me up a bit more than usual for the first drive or two" sense, and then there's disrespected in the "Wait, you all really believe we didn't earn this?" sort of way. The latter can motivate guys for 60 minutes.
I really can't wait to see how this team responds on the field, for better or worse. I'm banking on it being for the better.
How could it be his fault? Do you honestly think he goes "hey, don't forget to pump those balls to an exact 10.5 psi for me, you know how particular I am about it!"? He most likely prefers the ball to be slightly deflated and tells that to the staff in charge of it. I'd be stunned if he specifically instructs someone to keep the footballs below the legal limit.Ed Hillel said:
Red(s)HawksFan said:
You just don't appreciate the true "hide in plain sight" genius of having a guy in team clothing and with team ID tags standing there in the stadium with a large camera filming the opponents' sideline.
Check out Bedard's column, there's some remarkable comments from league sources and subtle framing by Bedard.
rodderick said:
Based on what we've heard from other QBs, I would in no way be stunned if a QB asked a ballboy or someone else to deflate the balls a bit. Thinking about it more, though, I highly doubt he would admit as much even if he did, given Schefter's report of a lack of evidence. I think we may well hear that he likes them at a lower limit, and he has no idea what happens to the pressure from there.
Salem's Lot said:
People die, shit blows up, wars are won and lost. This occurs on a daily basis. Tom Brady is giving a press conference on an off day. Does it get more "breaking" than this?
Koufax said:
The only people who think the language used by BB was a problem, or that he's being "inaccurate" (lying liars and their damned lies) are fucking idiots who want to pick apart every word on an internet message board to make other strangers on the internet think they're insightful and analytical. Kill yourself or start a PR firm. We're seriously at the point where a guy telling you he had no knowledge of it and wouldn't have had any is being picked apart over the way he said it? The week off before the SB sucks.
bowiac said:
Bet now reads:
SPECIAL (NE @ SEA) - How many times will "Deflated" Balls be said to during the game?
From kick off until final whistle. Live pictures only, any taped pictures or past video does not count towards wager. Half time does not count towards wager. Must clearly say "Deflated" or "Deflate". Book Manager's decision is final. NO OVERLIMITS
That's what I'm saying. He may ask them to deflate the ball a bit, not to deflate them below the limit. If he tells them to deflate the ball, I assume he means he wants the ball as deflated as possible within the boundaries of the rules.Ed Hillel said:
Lol boo hooMloaf71 said:
But seriously, here it is: http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/22/deflategate-reaction-of-nfl-coaches-bill-belichick-press-conference/
Distraction? Is it time for another lol?RedOctober3829 said:
USA Today piece a symptom not a cause. We have too much money, too much air time, too many people with axes to grind and reputations to make, and too little product to warrant all this. So you have the sports' equivalent of establishing that the Manchurian candidate President was born in Kenya. Or, if you prefer, proving that 9/11 was a false flag operation orchestrated by Cheney. So ther search for impeachable offenses continues, with BB the hunted one. That's where we are.
rodderick said:
You mean like how Ted Williams couldn't tell the exact weight of his bat to the ounce when he picked it up?
BB has done what I thought was impossible. He comes off with more integrity, more honesty, and more believability.
The mediots asking the questions come off as petty and aggressive.
Wait, are we talking about football or post Presidential debate?
The mediots asking the questions come off as petty and aggressive.
Wait, are we talking about football or post Presidential debate?
Making us read anything from Bedard should be subject to fines, loss of draft picks, and other disciplinary measures. This piece was no different.Mystic Merlin said:
Gotta love how he mixes in the "ineligible receiver formation" as an example of similar injustice, and then echoes claims from one GM that the Pats "get off easy". Then backtracks by saying "We don't know anything about anything yet".
Good for you guys. It's all good as long as you get inter/national exposure and get TV face time on the networks.
Watch Bettis backtrack like the old Pitt vs NE AFCCG games: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12210615
Dawkins is still butthurt about the SB loss though.
Dawkins is still butthurt about the SB loss though.
rodderick said:
So--
- no one in the media knows much of anything conclusively yet
- the conclusions they're drawing based on this is a major part of the criticism here and elsewhere
- doing it isn't a big deal and doesn't produce much of an advantage
- everyone does it
BUT, you're comfortable assuming that Brady wouldn't have an idea exactly how he wants the footballs and would never act outside the rules (even pointless ones that no one follows anyway), and are exasperated that others can't "see" that.
lexrageorge said:
So Bedard is garbage too? Who can we read here that we won't be subject to persecution?
How about taking a look at the text and making your own judgment? The mere fact that he uses the ineligible receiver play as evidence for anything should tell you all you need to know.
GregHarris said:
You mean the section in quotes where he was quoting what an AFC Defensive Coach told him?
Is there something I'm missing?
I read the article and the text, but my understanding of English is that that the parts in quotes are not his comments (the part after the [ are his commentary].
GregHarris said:
Yeah, those quotes were illuminating on who is pushing for severe punishment, aka, the Ravens.
IT VIOLATES THE SPIRIT OF THE RULES!!!! BAN HIM FOR LIFE!!
rodderick said:
You're telling us all what Brady did and didn't do based on an assumption. Which is exactly what everyone outside this thread is charged with doing to the Patriots.
If the rule is silly, always broken and looks to protect from some advantage that is non-existent, why on earth would you assume he wouldn't skirt that rule? Why would you assume he has no idea how he wants the footballs, but just some vague concept he passes on to others that keeps him entirely within the rules?
I tuned in briefly yesterday and regretted it immediately.PeaceSignMoose said:
Dale, Holley, and Thornton actually had some interesting, reasonable discussion about it yesterday that I enjoyed.
Although it is helpful in reminding everyone around here that when it comes to making decisions about penalties, Goodell is on the record as saying "Proof? I don't need no steenking proof!" Things superficially look better today than they did yesterday, but an inept egomaniac is tough to predict.lexrageorge said:
My first line was obviously tongue-in-cheek.NortheasternPJ said:
You can read anyone or anything you want; doesn't bother me. I personally think Bedard has gone way down hill since he left the Globe, and that wasn't necessarily a high standard from the guy who once attempted to differentiate "attacking defenses" from "defenses that attack". Regardless of what you think of Bedard, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be allowed to attack points he raises when those points are simply wrong (e.g., the ineligible receiver formation). Yes, I know he quoted a dumbass defensive coach, but he certainly used those quotes to build a narrative.
Feel free to form your own opinion on Bedard or the article. I'm not going to stop you.
Holy crap listening to Francesca on this right now. What a colossal idiot.
Some caller was trying to make the point that if the balls were only 0.2 pounds deflated then perhaps that could've happened naturally. But Mike would have none of it saying only that what the only thing we know for sure is that the balls were tampered with. Of course, that's the point! If the balls were only 0.2 pounds deflated and the balls checked out initially at 12.5, then that easily can be explained by natural causes.
Good grief the stupidity is painful.
Some caller was trying to make the point that if the balls were only 0.2 pounds deflated then perhaps that could've happened naturally. But Mike would have none of it saying only that what the only thing we know for sure is that the balls were tampered with. Of course, that's the point! If the balls were only 0.2 pounds deflated and the balls checked out initially at 12.5, then that easily can be explained by natural causes.
Good grief the stupidity is painful.
But the point you made was the ineligible thing, which wasn't his writing, it was a quote. He asked an AFC Coach about this and they referenced the receiver thing. I'm not sure how that's on Bedard. He's writing about how the league is reacting, not himself.
After hearing what BB had to say during his PC, I feel both stupid and dirty for entertaining the notion that this was some deliberate plot on the part of the patriots. It wouldn't have bothered me if that had been the case but I should know better than to trust anything the media says in regards to the patriots and cheating scandals. Mea culpa.
And fuck the colts, their fans, the reporters, Hines ward, jerry rice, chris canty, Francesa, etc etc
And fuck the colts, their fans, the reporters, Hines ward, jerry rice, chris canty, Francesa, etc etc
I feel like there's been a lot of misinformation in this thread and it's completely dragging someone through the dirt, and I can't stand it.
This picture is a before and after! She lost the weight in 2009!
Also this is from post weight loss in 2012:
And even just a couple months ago, keeping it together:
I believe this post to be more productive than most others in this thread.
This picture is a before and after! She lost the weight in 2009!
Also this is from post weight loss in 2012:
And even just a couple months ago, keeping it together:
I believe this post to be more productive than most others in this thread.
DrewDawg said:
Schefter said something may come out today. If that's the case, I think it would make sense that Brady is speaking first; in fact, it may be that the Patriots got wind the NFL was coming out with something and moved Brady's PC up until before then.