#DFG: Canceling the Noise

Is there any level of suspension that you would advise Tom to accept?


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Hoya81

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I'm curious to how he determined Benson is in complete control. Has he spoken to him? Did Benson submit a doctors evaluation?
 

JohnnyK

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Did I miss something at the end, or did Rog shut down a question with "Before we get to that, I wanna thank...", then never get back to that question but just end the pc?
 

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Neither fans nor sports reporters are generally opposed to NFL employees leaking information. I'm curious as heck and just wish somebody was leaking the Pats' viewpoint a little more.
I don't think there's anything more the Pats can do. Their thoughts are they didn't do it.
 

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JohnnyK said:
Did I miss something at the end, or did Rog shut down a question with "Before we get to that, I wanna thank...", then never get back to that question but just end the pc?
 
Nah, I'm pretty sure whomever was moderating the PC announced it was time for the last question.  He made his little closing statement and then took one last question.
 

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Thank god we didn't play a drinking game where we drank every time "integrity" was said. I'd be dead about 10 min ago. (Watching ESPN)
 
Schefter just said it 5x in 2 sentences.
 

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i read Kraft's not attending the pressed as less a sign of his disregard for Goodell, and more an obvious distraction/set-up that wouldn't look good for Goodell or Kraft. Could be seen as Kraft ominously standing by to remind Goodell not to speak against him, for instance.

Like Frankie Pentangeli's uncle (brother?) coming in from Sicily to watch his testimony...
 

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Storm, "NFL can afford it." She may get herself banished by ESPN before this is over.
 

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Mugsys Jock said:
i read Kraft's not attending the pressed as less a sign of his disregard for Goodell, and more an obvious distraction/set-up that wouldn't look good for Goodell or Kraft. Could be seen as Kraft ominously standing by to remind Goodell not to speak against him, for instance.

Like Frankie Pentangeli's uncle (brother?) coming in from Sicily to watch his testimony...
 
Yes, if he were in attendance, it would have raised all sorts of uncomfortable issues. 
 

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She asked about there being a conflict of interest w/ the NFL paying the investigators and in he ended his response with "unless you want to pay for it, Rachel."
 
 
she should crowd-source/kickstart it, and fund an investigation...
 

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Mugsys Jock said:
i read Kraft's not attending the pressed as less a sign of his disregard for Goodell, and more an obvious distraction/set-up that wouldn't look good for Goodell or Kraft. Could be seen as Kraft ominously standing by to remind Goodell not to speak against him, for instance.

Like Frankie Pentangeli's uncle (brother?) coming in from Sicily to watch his testimony...
It was Frankie's brother. 
 

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Sal, are you wearing UGG boots by any chance?
 
Good point by him concerning the lack of almost any owners in the room. Agreed that Commish's treatment of Nichols fell flat.
 

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Harry Hooper said:
Can't believe how hard it's raining out there in the AZ desert.
 
Yeah, it rains here maybe 15 days a year and today it's coming down.  I'm watching the soundcheck for the Snoop Dog concert from my office, and it seems like they are going full steam ahead.
 

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McBride11 said:
Which NFLN said was actually 8 and 1 representative for an owner (Packers)
I'm assuming Bisciotti's at a strip club, Irsay's on his way back from the packy, and Benson is frolicking with unicorns.
 

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I feel like his comments about not knowing if there was a infraction and who is responsible are telling, because it would speak to some of the reports Schefter put out about not having evidence. Without being to identify the mechanism of the infraction, there's really nothing they can do.
 

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Ed Hillel said:
He never said that.
 
 
Right, by the same logic he left open the possibility that the Colts will take the Patriots's place in the SB or that the Seahawks will be required to play without helmets.
 

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Wouldn't that be the point of him attending? Imagine how much Goodell would sweat if he had to answer some deflategate questions as Kraft is staring daggers right through him with his arms crossed.
 
Kraft made his stance crystal clear on Monday. Doing the Commish a solid here is not a bad tactic. 
 

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It's funny. I've never thought much about Rachel Nichols' reporting in general. In fact, I never really liked her spots on ESPN, as they seemed so over-rehearsed and unnatural.

However, put her in a Roger Goodell press conference, and she is kryptonite. Her question always ends up being the pinnacle moment somehow. All media members should quietly agree to refrain from asking questions and just watch her grill Roger for 30 minutes.
 

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Wouldn't that be the point of him attending? Imagine how much Goodell would sweat if he had to answer some deflategate questions as Kraft is staring daggers right through him with his arms crossed.
With Kraft in the room, if he gave any reasoned answers about lack of evidence anything wrong occurred, or the trivial nature of the balls' inflation, it would be assumed that was because he was in Kraft's pocket.

The one good answer Goodell did give ("if there was an infraction" or whatever) would've been undermined.

Pats fans aren't looking for Goodell to be emasculated and in jeopardy, they're looking for him to be intelligent and principled.

When that fails, we'll move on to the emasculating...

Edit: fixed the quote
 

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Sorry if this has been posted before- but with all the talk of how many people have been brainwashed irreperably to hate the Patriots, it's a little surprising that ESPN's front page poll is so even. I'd have thought something more like 70-30 would've been more likely, especially after the smear campaign.
 

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djbayko said:
It's funny. I've never thought much about Rachel Nichols' reporting in general. In fact, I never really liked her spots on ESPN, as they seemed so over-rehearsed and unnatural.

However, put her in a Roger Goodell press conference, and she is kryptonite. Her question always ends up being the pinnacle moment somehow. All media members should quietly agree to refrain from asking questions and just watch her grill Roger for 30 minutes.
 
But then how would we ever learn about a new stadium in Buffalo, or whether or not the Rams are staying in St. Louis, or what the commissioner's exercise regimen is like?
 

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Boy, if Kraft wanted to be completely Machiavellian here, he would wait a few more hours to let Gooddell twist a bit, and then he would come out make a statement, or maybe arrange to be asked a question by a reporter.
 
"Oh, no, my criticism was not of the commissioner, but more of the way that this played out in the league office, and tarnished our reputation, but I have great support for Roger, he is a personal friend, and he is guiding the league well."
 
Something like that would be awesome. 
 

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Nye is sticking to his guns:
 
https://twitter.com/TheScienceGuy/status/561248278734729217
 
 
He's still using gauge pressure (12.5 to 10.5 or whatever), not absolute pressure (27.2 to 25.2). He's embarrassing himself. I told him he looks like a creationist on this topic.
 
 

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DrewDawg said:
 
 
He's still using gauge pressure (12.5 to 10.5 or whatever), not absolute pressure (27.2 to 25.2). He's embarrassing himself. I told him he looks like a creationist on this topic.
 
Also conveniently ignoring that the 2 psi thing is very much in doubt
 

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Mugsys Jock said:
With Kraft in the room, if he gave any reasoned answers about lack of evidence anything wrong occurred, or the trivial nature of the balls' inflation, it would be assumed that was because he was in Kraft's pocket.

The one good answer Goodell did give ("if there was an infraction" or whatever) would've been undermined.

Pats fans aren't looking for Goodell to be emasculated and in jeopardy, they're looking for him to be intelligent and principled.

When that fails, we'll move on to the emasculating...

Edit: fixed the quote
Also, Kraft may have lost it on a few of the questions that were asked.
 

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DrewDawg said:
 
 
He's still using gauge pressure (12.5 to 10.5 or whatever), not absolute pressure (27.2 to 25.2). He's embarrassing himself. I told him he looks like a creationist on this topic.
 
 
Yeah, I replied to him with something similar.  I also told him that the temperature of the ball likely increases when it's 'prepared' given the friction involved.  IIRC, someone here raised the external temp of a ball up to 86F when scrubbing it with a dog brush.  I can only assume the tools actually used would increase the temperature even more.  
 
It's embarrassing that popular media science people can't get science right.
 

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But then how would we ever learn about a new stadium in Buffalo, or whether or not the Rams are staying in St. Louis, or what the commissioner's exercise regimen is like?
 
We have to remember that this is not a press conference just for the fan bases of the Super Bowl teams and, since the commissioner rarely grants one on ones with hometown reporters, those Buffalo and St. Louis questions have only one chance of being answered. The workout question was a plant for the Play 60 program