Divisional Weekend Gamethread

[dcmissle]

I couldn't imagine being a San Diego fan. They didn't come out to play this game at all, and they somehow still have a chance to make a run at the game and they fuck that up in  horrific fashion. A joke of a performance by their defense in the 4th quarter.

Life as SD can through different coaching regimes.

Don't be too dismissive on the defense. We have been on the wrong side of 3rd and 17 conversions more times than I care to recall

 

[Reverend]

Oh God, the "Legacy Bowl" talk is begun.

 

[Section15Box113]

Glad they didn't jump on the first sound after Omaha this time.

 

[Reggie's Racquet]

I would not have given the ball back to Manning.

 

[Ed Hillel]

If you call the timeout on the other side of the 2 min you save 30 seconds...not 2 seconds...right?

 
Not really, since you run an extra play by calling it with 2 seconds left.

 

[hunter05]

 
Approximately

Arguable

 

[finnVT]

 
Yes. Time is at a premium here. They saved 2 seconds with that TO.

What?  No, they were going to call the timeout regardless. 
 
Look, there are two plays, one of which is followed by a TO, one of which is followed by the 2 minute warning.  You can do it in either order.  Having the TO one first saves a couple seconds compared to the other, by either way you're using a TO.  It's not that complicated.
 
edit: sorry, probably quoting the wrong one for this, i think johnmd20 is making the same point.

 

[Helmet Head]

San Diego would have won it if they weren't so conservative on offense until the 4th. What a fuck up that is. San Diego has the weapons to expose Denver all day down field but they decide to try to
establish the run with a gimpy Matthews and Woodhead for 3 quarters with no success. Idiotic


I think Denver was pretty average today.

 

[H78]

SD just sucks

 

[brandonchristensen]

Can't wait for the Manning narrative about how his playoff performances were overstated and that this is a new Manning and blah blah blha.

 

[Deathofthebambino]

I don't even understand what's going on.  You can't use the timeout with 2:02 left.  You let it run to the 2 minute warning, then you have them run a play, and then you use a timeout.  Then they run another play, and you use your second one.  If you stop them on third down, you get the ball back without about a minute left.  By using that timeout before the two minute warning, the absolute best case scenario is you get it back with 20-30 seconds.  It makes no sense.

 

[RIrooter09]

Let's stomp these fuckers next week.

 

[staz]

Weaksauce.

 

[Dogman]

Unreal.  They knew runs were coming and couldn't stop it.

 

[86spike]

Phew,

 

[radsoxfan]

You guys are missing the point.  They used a timeout to save two seconds. 

 
They made them run a play before the 2 minute warning.  That's the equivalent of saving 40 seconds after the minute warning.
 
Game over.... they didn't have a chance after that moronic 3rd and 17 coverage.

 

[Phragle]

Rivers actually outplayed Manning. 
 
Not worried.

 

[Ed Hillel]

San Diego deserved to lose this one. They didn't show up and attack the Denver defense until it was way too late. Brady and company could put up 35 plus on this defense next week no doubt.

 

[Dogman]

I don't even understand what's going on.  You can't use the timeout with 2:02 left.  You let it run to the 2 minute warning, then you have them run a play, and then you use a timeout.  Then they run another play, and you use your second one.  If you stop them on third down, you get the ball back without about a minute left.  By using that timeout before the two minute warning, the absolute best case scenario is you get it back with 20-30 seconds.  It makes no sense.

 
 
That was their last TO before the 2 minute.

 

[johnmd20]

Unreal.  They knew runs were coming and couldn't stop it.

 
The pass to Thomas was a total back breaker. I think they lost some steam after that one.

 

[twibnotes]

Of course Fox is quick to tell Clete "nice job"

 

[Sportsbstn]

did Fox just thank the refs?

 

[brandonchristensen]

Pats destroyed the Colts.
 
Broncos didn't lose against the Chargers.
 
Eh...fuck the Broncos and fuck Peyton.

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

Brady vs Manning XXIIVXIIIV

 

[Section15Box113]

God, SD's defense was hopeless on third down.

Denver was 9 of 13 today.

 

[radsoxfan]

I don't even understand what's going on.  You can't use the timeout with 2:02 left.  You let it run to the 2 minute warning, then you have them run a play, and then you use a timeout.  Then they run another play, and you use your second one.  If you stop them on third down, you get the ball back without about a minute left.  By using that timeout before the two minute warning, the absolute best case scenario is you get it back with 20-30 seconds.  It makes no sense.

 
You're not thinking it through. Take a deep breath, go through the scenario to completion, and then get back to us.

 

[Ed Hillel]

They aren't the 1 and 2 seeds, but these are the 2 best teams in each conference. YOu rarely get that.

 

[bankshot1]

So why did Rivers wait until the 4Q to play? 
 
Weird game

 

[Ed Hillel]

Holy shit, get that forehead away from me.

 

[Phragle]

If I took a fastball in the forehead it wouldn't be that red.

 

[Reverend]

This close up camera-work of Peyton is terrifying.

 

[Stitch01]

I don't even understand what's going on.  You can't use the timeout with 2:02 left.  You let it run to the 2 minute warning, then you have them run a play, and then you use a timeout.  Then they run another play, and you use your second one.  If you stop them on third down, you get the ball back without about a minute left.  By using that timeout before the two minute warning, the absolute best case scenario is you get it back with 20-30 seconds.  It makes no sense.

They only had one TO left. The problem calling TO was it let Denver pass with impunity since the clock stopped. Doesn't matter clock wise

 

[Mystic Merlin]

I'm not sure what color that is.

 

[smastroyin]

So next week is there any chance the Patriots don't put up at least 6 scores?
 
That Denver secondary can't hold coverage very long.  If the Patriots can hold the pass rush, the Broncos don't have a chance to stop them.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Wow, what a dick, blaming his Defense in that prior game against San Diego.

 

[scottyno]

I don't even understand what's going on.  You can't use the timeout with 2:02 left.  You let it run to the 2 minute warning, then you have them run a play, and then you use a timeout.  Then they run another play, and you use your second one.  If you stop them on third down, you get the ball back without about a minute left.  By using that timeout before the two minute warning, the absolute best case scenario is you get it back with 20-30 seconds.  It makes no sense.

no because you use the timeout at 2:02, play 1 runs the clock down to the 2 minute warning, on play 2 you use your 2nd timeout at about 1:50 then play 3 runs the clock down to 1-1:10. You're saving a few seconds, but trading that denver can run whatever it wants without worrying about the clock.

 

[ivanvamp]

Yes. Time is at a premium here. They saved 2 seconds with that TO.

I don't really get it.

Scenario 1 - use the TO at 2:02. Denver then runs another play, two minute warning sounds at, say, 1:58. One time out used, one play run, 4 seconds run off the clock.

Scenario 2 - let the clock go down to the two minute warning. Denver then runs another play that takes the same four seconds, then call time out at 1:56. One time out used, one play run, six seconds run off the clock.

Scenario 1 saves more time, using the same number of time outs.

 

[H78]

Peyton's face looks like it's gradually melting as he gets older.

 

[RIrooter09]

Over/under on BS calls in Manning's favor next week?

 

[Leather]

So next week is there any chance the Patriots don't put up at least 6 scores?

That Denver secondary can't hold coverage very long. If the Patriots can hold the pass rush, they don't have a chance.


Well, every other pass in the first half won't be to Woodhead, so that's a start.

 

[Sportsbstn]

Might be the best weekend of football in years.   Pats-Denver and SF-Seattle.  Tremendous

 

[staz]

"Buy Papa John's Pizza"

 

[redsoxcentury]

So next week is there any chance the Patriots don't put up at least 6 scores?
 
That Denver secondary can't hold coverage very long.  If the Patriots can hold the pass rush, the Broncos don't have a chance to stop them.

They seemed to have an issue with the Chargers' hurry up offense too.  That works in the Patriots favor

 

[Dan to Theo to Ben]

 
You're not thinking it through. Take a deep breath, go through the scenario to completion, and then get back to us.

He's thinking it through
 
Do you really think 2:02 with zero timeouts is better than 2:00 with 1 timeout?
 
take a breath. Then get back to us.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Over/under on BS calls in Manning's favor next week?

 
I'm actually hoping that horrible call was buzzed in and overturned by the NFL today, so that there will be some sort of oversight against the really shitty stuff.

 

[lars10]

This close up camera-work of Peyton is terrifying.

He's actually ten feet away from the camera...his head is just that big.

 

[Super Nomario]

Do you think Belichick went home after the game last night, said, "We've already played Denver and know what to expect," decided to watch some Chargers film, and then shut it off after 15 minutes thinking "there's no way the Broncos will lose to these assholes?"

 

[jsinger121]

Early line is -6.5 Denver.

 

[DaughtersofDougMirabelli]

He's thinking it through
 
Do you really think 2:02 with zero timeouts is better than 2:00 with 1 timeout?
 
take a breath. Then get back to us.

 
Sigh.
 
In you first scenario there has been a play run already. In your second no play has been run. They are completely equal. 

 

[radsoxfan]

This upcoming game would be so epic with Gronk, Hernandez, Dobson, Wilfork, and Mayo playing.
 
As it is, still very excited for it, but a Pats win would be a pretty huge upset.