Dodgers Landing on Bay of Puigs

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1916 Giants went 29-5-2 in September.
 
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Some other great months, the pennant winning 1935 Cubs stormed to the NL pennant with a 21 game winning streak in September and a 23-3 record overall that month.  And 2 of the losses came on the last 2 days of the season after the Cubs had already clinched the pennant.
 
The 2002 A's had a 24-4 month of August though the famous 20 game winning streak extended into the first couple days of September.
 
Looking at some of the memorable Sox teams of the past, none of them came up with a month to quite match those.
Year---Best Month
1912  21-8 June
1915  21-6 August
1946  21-6 May
1948  25-9 July
1949  23-8 August and 19-5 September
1950  24-6 August
1967  19-10 July
1972  20-9 September
1975  22-11 July
1977  22-8 September
1978  23-7 May
1986  21-7 May
2004  21-7 August
2007  20-8 May
 
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I didn't think that any of it looked all that bad, frankly.  On the slide, it looked to me like he got caught up trying to beat the ball to second (which he almost did) and then it was too late to slide.  On the catches, they were nonchalant, like dozens of fly balls caught every night.  Maybe he had to yank him because his teammates were bitching, but frankly they should all just get over it.
 
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Puig responded to the benching by going 4-5 with a 2B and 2 SB last night. He caught a fly ball nonchalantly late in the game, but he also stopped himself from trying to stretch a single into a double after taking a wide turn off 1st which elicited applause from Mattingly in the dugout.
 
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Arroyo Con Frijoles said:
I didn't think that any of it looked all that bad, frankly.  On the slide, it looked to me like he got caught up trying to beat the ball to second (which he almost did) and then it was too late to slide.  On the catches, they were nonchalant, like dozens of fly balls caught every night.  Maybe he had to yank him because his teammates were bitching, but frankly they should all just get over it.
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I just think there has to be more to the story. Those fly balls we see all the time. I mean FFs if people found it unacceptable to look causal on routine plays Cano would be in line for a smaller contract. It's not like only started that later in his career.
The slide, I don't know baseballs unwritten rules but the 2b was the far side of the bag and the ball was gone before he would have got near the thrower, personally I can only think of bad things that can happen when puig size players with his speed go in hard unnecessarily. This may be the issue, but it's not like he didn't run hard or anything. If you don't feel right, be it in your stride or whatever, then sliding is potentially dangerous to two people. How many times did we wish pedroia didn't slide in somewhere?
I think there has to be something going on that isn't public yet
 
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I just think there has to be more to the story. Those fly balls we see all the time. I mean FFs if people found it unacceptable to look causal on routine plays Cano would be in line for a smaller contract. It's not like only started that later in his career.
The slide, I don't know baseballs unwritten rules but the 2b was the far side of the bag and the ball was gone before he would have got near the thrower, personally I can only think of bad things that can happen when puig size players with his speed go in hard unnecessarily. This may be the issue, but it's not like he didn't run hard or anything. If you don't feel right, be it in your stride or whatever, then sliding is potentially dangerous to two people. How many times did we wish pedroia didn't slide in somewhere?
I think there has to be something going on that isn't public yet
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I agree.  He's got a showy style of play but nothing that deserves his being sat down.  He's not Starlin Castro repeatedly forgetting how many outs there are.  Good luck with that contract, Theo.
 
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I agree.  He's got a showy style of play but nothing that deserves his being sat down.  He's not Starlin Castro repeatedly forgetting how many outs there are.  Good luck with that contract, Theo.
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How do you know what kind of stuff he's pulling out of camera range? They talk about great clubhouse guys like Gomes, so wouldn't that mean there are bad guys too? Mattingly's job may or may not have been in danger when they were in last place as recently as June 24 with a 33 - 42 record. There is no way they return anywhere near there, but I doubt if Donny would pull Puig from a game for nothing. He must feel like his team kind of has to win with that payroll/roster and I doubt he'd overreact to a rookie unless it's warranted. Just for the record, I like the Dodgers now as an entertaining NL team and will probably pull for them in the post-season, with Puig as an important cog.
 
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Puig's 6th inning homer (on Cuban Heritage Day, of all days) is the difference as the Dodgers beat SD 2-1. You've got to hand it to him, it seems like any time there is a Puig disciplinary issue, he responds positively on the field.
 
Greinke gave up 2 hits in 7 innings to move to 14-3. He also went 1-2 at the plate and is hitting .347 with a .429 OBP. He even stole a base.
 
Assuming the Giants don't blow an 8-2 9th inning lead, LA will be 11.5 games up in the division. Looks like their biggest concern in September will be resting people while keeping them sharp.
 
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How do you know what kind of stuff he's pulling out of camera range? They talk about great clubhouse guys like Gomes, so wouldn't that mean there are bad guys too? Mattingly's job may or may not have been in danger when they were in last place as recently as June 24 with a 33 - 42 record. There is no way they return anywhere near there, but I doubt if Donny would pull Puig from a game for nothing. He must feel like his team kind of has to win with that payroll/roster and I doubt he'd overreact to a rookie unless it's warranted. Just for the record, I like the Dodgers now as an entertaining NL team and will probably pull for them in the post-season, with Puig as an important cog.
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How are we disagreeing?  I said that he's got a showy style of play.  Isn't that when the camera's watching?
 
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How are we disagreeing?  I said that he's got a showy style of play.  Isn't that when the camera's watching?
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I was saying that maybe it's things he's doing outside of camera range, as well as during games, that got him in the doghouse with Mattingly. Who knows. I don't care.  Other young potential superstars like Machado, and, hopefully, Bogaerts, tend to keep their head down and let their play do the talking. Then there's Johnny Football. Yasiel and Johnny can take turns getting each other out of the spotlight this fall.
 
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SoxFanInCali said:
Puig's 6th inning homer (on Cuban Heritage Day, of all days) is the difference as the Dodgers beat SD 2-1. You've got to hand it to him, it seems like any time there is a Puig disciplinary issue, he responds positively on the field.
 
Greinke gave up 2 hits in 7 innings to move to 14-3. He also went 1-2 at the plate and is hitting .347 with a .429 OBP. He even stole a base.
 
Assuming the Giants don't blow an 8-2 9th inning lead, LA will be 11.5 games up in the division. Looks like their biggest concern in September will be resting people while keeping them sharp.
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Funny to see Cuban Heritage Day mentioned on SoSH, as it's a little project I put together about a month ago. Puig homering today sent the entire stadium into hysterics. The legend grows.
 
Video of Yasiel's home run here.
 
Video of Yasiel throwing out a runner at home last night on a beautiful one-hop throw here.
 
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SoxFanInCali said:
Assuming the Giants don't blow an 8-2 9th inning lead, LA will be 11.5 games up in the division. Looks like their biggest concern in September will be resting people while keeping them sharp.
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Obviously winning the division is the big thing, but whether they will be #1-#3 seeds is still up for grabs.
 
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Thanks for the links.  Also I love Vin Scully..."Oh to be 22 and a Dodger...Wow!" is a great finish.
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I was cracking up when Puig hit the home run and Scully didn't miss a beat - "On Cuban Heritage Day.  Hey - Viva Cuba; Viva Yasiel!!"
 
I know we all know this, but I am continually astonished at how great Vin Scully is at age 85.  One of the saddest days as a baseball fan will be when Scully calls his last game.
 
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“@Buster_ESPN: Filed: LAD offered Clayton Kershaw contract concept in range of $300 million earlier this year. Talks were tabled; confidence about talks.”

Wayyyyy to much. Even for Kershaw
 
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That is nuts. I think they are set up perfectly for a massive overpay for Price, too. Both in long-term contract for Price and talent to the Rays for the privilege. Friedman must be salivating at the prospect.
 
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$300 million isn't only for Kershaw, seems like that might be where the Dodgers payroll climbs to soon.
 
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Even if you think he's worth that much who the hell are you competing with? No one else is going to that much for a pitcher and their injury risk.

Plus you then create that new level of pay and years for the likes of price or any other top pitcher.
Every other team is going to hate them (but I guess they won't care) , I just don't understand what makes you go that high.
 
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That is nuts. I think they are set up perfectly for a massive overpay for Price, too. Both in long-term contract for Price and talent to the Rays for the privilege. Friedman must be salivating at the prospect.
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Prospects.  You mean prospects. :p
 
The thought of the Dodgers floating out Kershaw, Price, Greinke, Ryu and whatever combination of Beckett, Billingsley and Dominguez is working for them is kind of terrifying.
 
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Honestly? At least he wasn't drunk. 
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He was on I-75 heading from Ft. Lauderdale to Naples. It's a near dead straight road through the Florida Everglades called Alligator Alley. Typical speed is 85mph+ on that road.110 is fast, no doubt (and stupid for a guy that already has a reckless driving arrest) but I have been on that same road and had plenty of cars pass me going faster than that.
 
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If he played football instead of baseball, he wouldn't even have been pulled over at that speed.  
 
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Could probably change the thread title to "Bay of Puigs landing on Dodgers", amirite?!
 
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Interesting story about Puig's defection and his journey to MLB.  Well worth the read.
 
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Surprised this isn't getting more play. From another article about this article:
The story reports that late in the summer of 2012, the smugglers still wanted their money, and threatened to harm Puig unless he paid. Now that Puig is a multi-millionaire, are the smugglers still involved, and could that involvement one day lead to Dodger Stadium?
 
• The story notes that in the fall of 2012, one of the smugglers was killed, execution-style, after Puig allegedly complained about the harassment to his former agent, Gilberto Suarez. Could there be revenge involved, and could that one day lead to Dodger Stadium?
 
• The story details how Pacheco will be given 20% of all of Puig's future earnings in a deal that is not unusual for desperate Cuban players. Does this mean that the rumors of Pacheco's appearances around the Dodgers last year were true? Is this Miami man quietly pulling the strings on Puig's turbulent life?
 
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Just wanted to give kudos to Puig. 
Right now he's batting .335/.430/.591 which is fantastic.
But almost as amazing is the transformation he's made as a hitter.  Last year he started the year as a complete hacker, a barely better than Jeff Francoeuresque dope who swung at everything.  By the end of the year he was more disciplined.  This year he's more disciplined still.  I've watched 2 or 3 Dodger games this year and seen him turn his nose up in disdain at all kinds of breaking pitches just off the strike zone.  He also had an inability to hit any good fastball on the inside corner last year.  That hole seems to have mostly closed.
 
And you haven't heard a lot about the overaggressive fielding and baserunning gaffes lately, have you?  He seems to have taken criticism of those plays to heart and cut their frequency way down.  This guy is a fucking awesome player and while the Dodgers try to figure out what to do with their other three outfielders, the fuckups, numbnuts and overrated, there's no question that Crawford, Kemp and Ethier are fighting for the other two spots because the only legitimate star among the four is Puig.
 
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I was at the game last night--what's odd is there were like 2 or 3 exciting, semi-acrobatic plays at the plate before that one. Those were the undercard for that main event though. Puig schooled 'em. He also uncorked a fucking laser from CF to try and cut down a sac fly at home that was barely unsuccessful yet still astonishing to watch. The feeling in the crowd when it was all lining up and we knew he was about to really let it fly was actually really amazing.
 
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