ECF Game 5 - Enough of this %*#*

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Blown leads. Ticky tack fouls. Bad turnovers. Missed open shots. Whatever.

This Celtics team is too good to go down quietly. And there is a team in LA still playing that needs a paddlin’.

So, enough of this %*#*. Win tonight and let’s do this again on Sunday.

Go Celtics.
 

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Win the game including the 4th bigly and so that we can move on from the “clutch” debate. Rankle Riley’s Heat.
 

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Celtics are winning tonight in impressive fashion. Then we'll see about game 6.

First things first.
 

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Make Herro pay for his alligator arms and attack, attack, attack. Get him in foul trouble early.
 

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Make Herro pay for his alligator arms and attack, attack, attack. Get him in foul trouble early.
Ah, the legend of Herro's short wingspan. If I hadn't read about his lack of length, it would never cross my mind when I watch him actually play.
 

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They got a Herro

We need the anti-herro

Who will be our
Humphrey Bogart
Clint Eastwood
Robert DeNiro
Sly Stallone

We need our inner Rick Blaine, Dirty Harry, Travis Bickle, Rambo to fully engage and say enough is enough

But fuck Jack Nicholson

WIN GAME 5

GO CELTS
 

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This is, more than likely, going to be another tough game to watch. The Celtics will miss shots, some open. Leads will be blown including double digit ones and the Celtics will look like they cannot execute for long stretches. Stevens will not call timeouts when the gamethread wants, will make rotation decisions that make posters physically ill and the officials will make inexplicable calls.

If this sounds like fun to you, tune in and complain away. Reading these threads, its mystifying why some of you do this to yourselves. But this is playoff basketball.
 

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Tough games are the best to watch. They're the ones we remember, some with a smile and some with gnawing second quesses doubts, and lingering scars. While I'd like to see the Celts win by 20 tonight, I think deep down, most of us would rather get whipped-sawed with the high and lows of an intense 1 pt game, even if it exposes us to our inner irrational exuberance and touches of madness.

Having said that, something easy wouldn't be so terrible tonight. I got plenty of inner insanity to share for G6 and hopefullly G7.
 

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Just consistently play Celtic basketball at both ends and it will be tough for Miami to close them out, in this or the next two games. Got to stay away from a one possession game tonight. Get the lead and push it.
 

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Please win tonight to forestall the slew of "Should the nucleus be broken up?" talk from the local and national media.
 

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It looked to me like Miami compacted their 3-2 zone a bit in Game 4, after the Cs drove the ball to the rim like crazy in Game 3. When that happens, a taller Celtic needs to catch the ball at the FT line, and do something quickly, either shoot, drive, or kick to an open threepoint shooter, preferably in the corner, which is probably a higher percentage shot than the turn and shoot one from the FT line. By using smaller players there, who were not making quick decisions, they were getting turned over a lot. It should be Tatum or Brown, with Theis in the lob spot on the low block.
 

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This is, more than likely, going to be another tough game to watch. The Celtics will miss shots, some open. Leads will be blown including double digit ones and the Celtics will look like they cannot execute for long stretches. Stevens will not call timeouts when the gamethread wants, will make rotation decisions that make posters physically ill and the officials will make inexplicable calls.

If this sounds like fun to you, tune in and complain away. Reading these threads, its mystifying why some of you do this to yourselves. But this is playoff basketball.
And don’t forget that CBS will not ride the refs the right way and could very well botch his challenge.

Playoff sports when you are invested in the team is an emotional roller coaster. Oddly the ups and downs are part of the fun and we all present the stress we are feeling in different ways.

Win or lose tonight, this has been a great season to be a Celtics fan. I’m looking forward to a win and if that is not the case I may make my displeasure known.;)
 

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And don’t forget that CBS will not ride the refs the right way and could very well botch his challenge.

Playoff sports when you are invested in the team is an emotional roller coaster. Oddly the ups and downs are part of the fun and we all present the stress we are feeling in different ways.

Win or lose tonight, this has been a great season to be a Celtics fan. I’m looking forward to a win and if that is not the case I may make my displeasure known.;)
Yup. I don’t mind how people deal with the real time stress of it in a game thread. Not sure why some care when they can just ignore whiny/emotional comments that bother them.

Regardless, this is my game thread and we’re winning so there won’t be any complaints tonight other than “why did we only win by 18?”
 

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Yup. I don’t mind how people deal with the real time stress of it in a game thread. Not sure why some care when they can just ignore whiny/emotional comments that bother them.

Regardless, this is my game thread and we’re winning so there won’t be any complaints tonight other than “why did we only win by 18?”
Oh I don't mind either. Its your thread and people can and should post what they want provided its not offensive

Just making an observation that some folks really don't seem to enjoy these games which is understandable. They are very evenly matched and both the Heat and Celtics are good at stopping each other. That makes for an intriguing match up but not aesthetically pleasing offensive basketball or a cakewalk for the Celtics.
 

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Oh I don't mind either. Its your thread and people can and should post what they want provided its not offensive

Just making an observation that some folks really don't seem to enjoy these games which is understandable. They are very evenly matched and both the Heat and Celtics are good at stopping each other. That makes for an intriguing match up but not aesthetically pleasing offensive basketball or a cakewalk for the Celtics.
I think it’s largely the built up frustration of knowing this team is so close but likely to fall short again. These would be great games if they were in the regular season. In the playoffs? I want to pull my hair out.

I also want a crack at LA so badly, which increases my angst. And then there’s the Herro stuff.

Ultimately, I think this team is the most exciting team in Boston by a pretty wide margin and we’re all lucky to have them, especially on the heels of a great but brief Big 3 era.
 

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I still think we get seven games but obviously the margin for error is gone. For all of the analysis, Boston will really only go as far as Tatum carries them. If he gets unlocked, Boston will likely win this series.
 

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Ultimately, I think this team is the most exciting team in Boston by a pretty wide margin and we’re all lucky to have them, especially on the heels of a great but brief Big 3 era.
100%

Jaylen Brown is averaging 21/7/3 on 56/59% in his 3rd ECF at 23.

Jayson Tatum is averaging 26/10/5 on 45/31% in his 2nd ECF at 22.

This is like the best case situation we could have hoped for after the Brooklyn trade. Worst case scenario we get to watch our awesome young team at least one more time this season.
 

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100%

Jaylen Brown is averaging 21/7/3 on 56/59% in his 3rd ECF at 23.

Jayson Tatum is averaging 26/10/5 on 45/31% in his 2nd ECF at 22.

This is like the best case situation we could have hoped for after the Brooklyn trade. Worst case scenario we get to watch our awesome young team at least one more time this season.
Yeah, this group is breaking through to the finals at some point. May not be this year but sometime in the next 5, they are.
 

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This is, more than likely, going to be another tough game to watch. The Celtics will miss shots, some open. Leads will be blown including double digit ones and the Celtics will look like they cannot execute for long stretches. Stevens will not call timeouts when the gamethread wants, will make rotation decisions that make posters physically ill and the officials will make inexplicable calls.

If this sounds like fun to you, tune in and complain away. Reading these threads, its mystifying why some of you do this to yourselves. But this is playoff basketball.
Your condescending fan act is as fresh as Gallagher's watermelon smashing show.
 

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Your condescending fan act is as fresh as Gallagher's watermelon smashing show.
I thought you gave up on this team a few games ago. You have made repeated posts about how badly they've done. Its fair to wonder why someone who gets so upset at something continues to go back to it and also complain about it.
 
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You can't win 3 in a row, without winning 1 in a row.

Go Celtics. Hammer the Heat.

Defense, rebounding, taking care of the ball and most of all, making shots.

I hear it's a make or miss league.
 

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I have been thinking as far as Walker can take them, since his performance seems to be more variable.
Walker too but Tatum is the best player in this series and I would love to see a breakout game from him. Part of the reason it hasn't happened yet is Miami is using every lever available to make him uncomfortable (Kemba as well) but it also feels like Tatum's age and inexperience is holding him back a bit too. He has played incredibly well all restart and playoffs long but its clear they need him to do more to get beyond this level.
 

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Play team basketball for 48 minutes. Play for each other. Don't finger point. Just hustle.
 

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After 4 games we have exactly the same O/D rating as Miami, we're shooting a little better, getting to the line slightly more. Rebounding is a slight edge to Miami, but turnovers are about 3/2. Take care of the ball and it's ours.

 

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Cross-posting from NBA thread; interesting article on zone defenses if peeps are looking to kill time before tip-off.

I'm not an x's and o's guy, but this is an interesting look at zone usage around the playoffs.


And to stay on topic, FTL.
Yeah, good article. I think the below is the biggest point for Cs (maybe it should be in a different thread).

Still, as Brooks notes, zones have value by taking offenses out of what they typically want to do.

"When you [face] a man-to-man defense, you can run a pattern," Brooks said. "You know that if they guard it this way, OK this will be open, and, if they guard it this way, [then] this will be open. So you have your check points as a player and as a coach.

"But in a zone, it's a little bit of organized chaos. You have gray areas. ... You have some concepts, but you really have to be free-flowing. You really have to have a really stronger-IQ basketball team to be able to attack it consistently."


BOS has super-skilled players but IMO the youth of JT, JB, and Marcus has shown through when trying to attack the zone. Time to grow up.