ECF Game 5 - Enough of this %*#*

PedroKsBambino

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Yea he took off outside the lane but Theis was in the restricted area when the contact was made. Groin area was the O foul. Any other body part and that’s a block.

Regardless, great win.
You don’t understand the rule or the call. By your interpretation you can’t ever push off and get an offensive foul on a drive becomes defender is in restricted area. That’s simply not how it works. It applies only to block/charge. And he took off outside it anyway
 

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This. He is so much better if he doesn't feel a need to take over a stagnant offense
He kept getting the ball up top in the second half and kind of start to get into a shooting form, the defense would react, and then he would pass it to Hayward or Brown and the offense would generate a good look. It's like the Heat were having a Pavlovian response to him being in a position to shoot, they were wired to react like he was putting a shot up every time.
 

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Jaylen attempted 23 shots, and the C's have some ridiculously high winning percentage when he gets 17 or more attempts.
 

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The best part of the ESPN booth is Van Gundy, Jackson and Breen singing Kanter's praises in the second half right when the Heat had him targeted in a Dragic/Bam PnR that resulted in Stevens pulling him immediately. Theis then goes off and Kanter gets credit for that.

I understand that they need to simplify the game for their audience but that was particularly hilarious.
 

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Kanter was great for about 8 minutes, and really helped to turn the momentum in the 2nd. Then he tired, and Miami started to attack him. I thought sure he'd have a big 2nd half role, but instead Brad rolled with the German, which turned out to be the right call. Posters here were calling for Kanter to start the 2nd, but Brad knew better.
 

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Theis and Tatum played the whole 2nd half and would need to play big minutes in a game 6 win. The game 7 break would be useful.
 

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Kanter was great for about 8 minutes, and really helped to turn the momentum in the 2nd. Then he tired, and Miami started to attack him. I thought sure he'd have a big 2nd half role, but instead Brad rolled with the German, which turned out to be the right call. Posters here were calling for Kanter to start the 2nd, but Brad knew better.
agreed...Kanter is strictly situational, small minutes...but the guy is a bucket when Bam is off the floor
 

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The best part of the ESPN booth is Van Gundy, Jackson and Breen singing Kanter's praises in the second half right when the Heat had him targeted in a Dragic/Bam PnR that resulted in Stevens pulling him immediately. Theis then goes off and Kanter gets credit for that.

I understand that they need to simplify the game for their audience but that was particularly hilarious.
JVG emphatically stated Kanter should start the second half...which was hilarious to basketball fans or at least to me. Yeah I get that the commentators want to keep it simple and come up with their own easy adjustments that are digestible to the public, but I was still surprised. JVG should know better. Kanter is a highly situational player at best (this is polite) and JVG should know (and probably does know) that he could get burned by such an outright statement if Kanter shits the bed by starting the half. But, of course, Jackson saved JVG by implying that Theis played so well in the second half and with a light under his ass because Kanter scored a few buckets in the first half.

In the end, JVG knows way more about basketball than me but that will never be displayed on an ESPN broadcast. Which is a shame.
 

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Will his long arms make it more difficult? Ie when he extends it is more obvious compared to someone bulkier with shorter arms? Or strength just means will extend less?
Sorry this is late, but a stronger guy can move the guy off with less effort, even from his legs, no need to "punch through" in a way. Watch Lebron he just holds the defender off, and gently moves them away.
 

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It's hard to say they're wrong, because they've worked out for the most part, but the backup center situation this series has just been bizarre.

Game 1: Rob Williams played but was mostly invisible, Kanter didn't play at all

Game 2: Kanter played great in limited minutes, no Williams

Game 3: A little Kanter who was decent, no Williams, lots of small ball

Game 4: Williams great in limited minutes, no Kanter

Game 5: Kanter great in limited minutes, No Williams

It's like before each game Brad decides he's only going to use one of them and not the other but can't decide which one he prefers vs Miami or he wants Miami to not be able to gameplan for one (to the extent that you game plan for a backup center)
 

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Sorry this is late, but a stronger guy can move the guy off with less effort, even from his legs, no need to "punch through" in a way. Watch Lebron he just holds the defender off, and gently moves them away.
Yep, the arm extension will go away with 10-15 more pounds of muscle. 2022-27 will be Prime Tatum, could envision him averaging 30ppg during those seasons.

It was the same with strong Giannis vs. skinny Giannis
 

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It's hard to say they're wrong, because they've worked out for the most part, but the backup center situation this series has just been bizarre.

Game 1: Rob Williams played but was mostly invisible, Kanter didn't play at all

Game 2: Kanter played great in limited minutes, no Williams

Game 3: A little Kanter who was decent, no Williams, lots of small ball

Game 4: Williams great in limited minutes, no Kanter

Game 5: Kanter great in limited minutes, No Williams

It's like before each game Brad decides he's only going to use one of them and not the other but can't decide which one he prefers vs Miami or he wants Miami to not be able to gameplan for one (to the extent that you game plan for a backup center)
Or it's like Brad watches the game, figures out what BOS needs, and uses the guy who best fits the need.

RWilliams is the guy they use when Brad thinks the offense is working but needs more energy or if Bam is going crazy and they need more athleticism.

GWilliams is the guy they use when they are having trouble containing PnR and want to switch everything for a while to try to break up MIA's rhythm.

Kanter was used yesterday because the Cs were having trouble generating offense and if there's one thing Kanter can do is to generate offense. Brad knows the Cs will get great looks when Kanter is in the game but is hoping that either the matchups are such or MIA goes off rhythm long enough that the Cs don't give it back on defense.