Edwin Diaz stays in Queens
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Do the Mets understand this is an MLB contract and not an NFL one?
Wow.
Putting that much $ into a RP is crazy. I can maybe see it if I squint enough and it’s a relief ace who pitches 100 innings, but even then…
Cohen is going to do aTop Gun style flyby of the LT thresholds this off-season, isn’t he?
Wow.
Putting that much $ into a RP is crazy. I can maybe see it if I squint enough and it’s a relief ace who pitches 100 innings, but even then…
Cohen is going to do aTop Gun style flyby of the LT thresholds this off-season, isn’t he?
Whom Mets fans were ready to run out of town a year ago. Let alone when they first acquired him in 2019.
The Emmanuel Clase extension CLE signed in April looks even better now, not a fair comparison as he was a ways from FA but still.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33691428/cleveland-guardians-announce-5-year-contract-closr-emmanuel-clase?platform=amp
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/33691428/cleveland-guardians-announce-5-year-contract-closr-emmanuel-clase?platform=amp
Ouch. I get that he’s a top tier fan favorite but we are talking contracts that could cripple them for a decade.
Has any RP had a contract close to this? I’m having trouble finding more than $60,000,000 guaranteed but maybe I’m missing someone.
mph I am dead wrong.
Chapman $86 mill
Jansen $80 mill
probably others.
There’s some ancillary things going on here -
1) the Mets have had huge problems with their bullpen in recent years; if you have someone who’s been great, why leave that to take a random shot on the free agent market (and you’re probably still overpaying on that shot anyway)
2) if DeGrom leaves (especially if as rumored simply because he wants to be closer to home), I think the optics would be really bad to then also have the bullpen take a hit just over $
1) the Mets have had huge problems with their bullpen in recent years; if you have someone who’s been great, why leave that to take a random shot on the free agent market (and you’re probably still overpaying on that shot anyway)
2) if DeGrom leaves (especially if as rumored simply because he wants to be closer to home), I think the optics would be really bad to then also have the bullpen take a hit just over $
Also they have a ton of other bullpen FAs, they have a lot of work to do there:
Adam Ottavino, Seth Lugo, Trevor May, Joely Rodríguez, and Tommy Hunter are all FAs.
Yep, I don't think I would have made the deal, but this is what he was going to get. And I'm not so sure it will matter all that much to the Mets, even if he has a few down years. Their owner seems pretty committed to spending regardless of the penalties.
I don’t get the hand wringing with this contract. Steve Cohen is literally made of money and has shown he doesn’t care about the luxury tax. If this doesn’t work out, he’ll just spend his way out of the mistake.
The next highest current relief pitcher contract is Raisel Iglesias's 4/$58m.
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/rankings/contract-value/relief-pitcher/
This seems like a dangerous time to be giving a guy who is not nearly as good in odd years a big contract with an opt out.
Odd years - 84 earned runs in 186.2 innings (4.05 ERA)
Even years - 46 earned runs in 212.2 innings (1.95 ERA)
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/rankings/contract-value/relief-pitcher/
This seems like a dangerous time to be giving a guy who is not nearly as good in odd years a big contract with an opt out.
Odd years - 84 earned runs in 186.2 innings (4.05 ERA)
Even years - 46 earned runs in 212.2 innings (1.95 ERA)
I mean, even omitting that year he's still at 3.36 in odd years, but it was obviously mostly a joke based on the 1st thing that jumped out at me when I looked at his career numbers.
In terms of "worth it" I think my biggest concern there is that it's a lot of $$$ for a guy who pitches 4% of your innings each year - & to a lesser extent the inconsistency that is inherent in most relief pitchers.
That's totally fair. That said, if you look at his xAVG against, he has been very, very consistent and very, very good every season, even 2019. I'm of the mindset that having that true, shutdown closer allows you to really use the rest of the bullpen in the best way you can, and I believe in Diaz as that guy. I think his value extends to players other than him, as well.
Edit to add: Also, his 2019 season was largely skewed by 4 really, really bad games, including two where he let up 5 ER's in just a third of an inning each. Other than that he was pretty darn solid.
Edit to add: Also, his 2019 season was largely skewed by 4 really, really bad games, including two where he let up 5 ER's in just a third of an inning each. Other than that he was pretty darn solid.