F**k you, Deflategate

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Howard Mudd, former Colts OL coach, was widely considered a master of sign stealing. Deion was referencing the fact that every player in the league knew the Colts stole signs and prepared accordingly, just that they never brought it public because they presumably understood it was part of the game. He also said that what the Colts were doing was "much worse" than Spygate, so he probably has some insight in what was going on there. The fact that he inserted Tomlinson into that conversation to corroborate what he was talking about tells me this certainly was going on during the Peyton Manning era, which makes things interesting to say the least.
Yes. Jimmy Johnson mentioned Mudd's signal stealing while on with Mike and the Mad Dog once.
 

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Thanks, rodderick – I hadn't heard that. I've always assumed that Goodell came down hard on the Pats during Spygate and tried to make an example of them in the hopes that precisely this sort of thing—the culture of gamesmanship—wouldn't come to light. It would seem to have worked.
 

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Yeah, this would have definitely leaked and been super infuriating if any one of 100 things went differently.
Pretty sure we know who would have leaked it too.

I absolutely love that Brady did not let that weasel pull away from the handshake. What a power play by TB12.
 

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This was the best game I've seen. Brady spent 3 quarters looking like 40 year old Brett Favre. Then it all started to happen. But the best thing about it all was having to see that smug bastard Goodell on stage haha
 

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I'll never be "over" Deflategate because fans of other teams will never let it go, and it will always be brought up and mentioned. If everyone else would kindly drop it, I would. But most conversations I get into with people about the Patriots, they bring up the Pats "nonstop cheating".

So it just keeps getting put in my face. How can I possibly forget it when it keeps getting brought up to me?

But winning.... Yeah. So sweet.
 

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It's completely over for me and I could care less if RG comes to Gillette or not. I don't even care enough to boo...a moment of silence seems more appropriate.

It's over...Brady won.
 

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This was the best game I've seen. Brady spent 3 quarters looking like 40 year old Brett Favre. Then it all started to happen. But the best thing about it all was having to see that smug bastard Goodell on stage haha
I don't agree. He was getting knocked around in the first half. That has always been the way to stop Brady--give him no time at all. The Falcons defense was pressing so hard though and just ran out of gas.
 

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It ended for me when Goodell was booed and Kraft made the not-so-subtle reference to DFG in his acceptance speech.

Brady won and the Pats won. They took four games and a first round draft pick from the Pats and all they did was win another motherfucking Lombardi. The league lost, Goodell lost, and all of the Patriot haters lost, and will continue to lose.

I can understand being sick of the Patriots and hating them because of how much they've won. But anyone who cannot appreciate what they are witnessing and instead talks about asterisks or cheating deserves to keep losing over and over again.
 

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It ended for me when Goodell was booed and Kraft made the not-so-subtle reference to DFG in his acceptance speech.

Brady won and the Pats won. They took four games and a first round draft pick from the Pats and all they did was win another motherfucking Lombardi. The league lost, Goodell lost, and all of the Patriot haters lost, and will continue to lose.

I can understand being sick of the Patriots and hating them because of how much they've won. But anyone who cannot appreciate what they are witnessing and instead talks about asterisks or cheating deserves to keep losing over and over again.
This to me is exactly how I feel, for the first time in years I can return to just watching football. The FU tour is truly complete, anything that happens from here out is just the greatest coach and QB in NFL history doing what they do. I can not imagine what Brady privately says to his family after this, but his legacy is at this point no longer just a greatest QB in history debate it's now fully entered(started last night on NFL network) into greatest player in NFL history, and comparing to other sports greatest.

Listening to Sanders last night talk about deflategate always being BS, and those in the "inner circle" always knowing it was crap was fulfilling. The narrative is changing, this win is the sweetest I've ever seen as a fan of sports. If this were a movie it would be too implausible and everyone would have said the ending was flawed as it was too far fetched. Just amazing.
 

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Goodell is about to hand Brady the MVP for an awesome photo opp. End of an era, though we probably will still have a couple moments (Jimmy trade, Goodell trip for opening Thursday).

But fuck Goodell and the league office 4 eva.
 

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It's at the point now when someone cries about cheating, or tries to argue Brady isn't the GOAT, we can just laugh right in their face.
 

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Brady completely ignored the "have you and the commisioner started the healing process" question.
 

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I'll never be "over" Deflategate because fans of other teams will never let it go, and it will always be brought up and mentioned. If everyone else would kindly drop it, I would. But most conversations I get into with people about the Patriots, they bring up the Pats "nonstop cheating".

So it just keeps getting put in my face. How can I possibly forget it when it keeps getting brought up to me?

But winning.... Yeah. So sweet.
This.

I can't wear Patriots apparel without atleast one cheating reference. Its sweet right now, but it will never be over.
 

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The whole scene was handled properly.

NE fans booed Roger's ass.

Kraft with subtle dig, but no FU speech.

Brady: total class

As for me, I waited until the 2 point conversion to yell. When they scored in OT, I screamed "YES!" quickly followed by "Fuck You Roger!"
 

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Howard Mudd, former Colts OL coach, was widely considered a master of sign stealing. Deion was referencing the fact that every player in the league knew the Colts stole signs and prepared accordingly, just that they never brought it public because they presumably understood it was part of the game. He also said that what the Colts were doing was "much worse" than Spygate, so he probably has some insight in what was going on there. The fact that he inserted Tomlinson into that conversation to corroborate what he was talking about tells me this certainly was going on during the Peyton Manning era, which makes things interesting to say the least.
IS there a link or transcript anywhere?
 

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No handshake, and I think Roger actually may have been running off the stage after the photo-op. He was really moving.
If you look at the first on-field handshake, RG begins by looking like he's been told to clean out the New York sewers with his bare hands, and goes downhill from there.

This is not over, it will simply mutate in ways we can't predict.
 

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The NFL's competitive balance penalty has failed. On to Ring Number Six...
 

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Serious question.

Do you think Roger still cares to be out to get the Pats? It seems to me he went after the Pats to appease the owners. Then, his always arbitrary and unfair justice system began to unravel he had to double down to keep his power. It certainly became personal, but do you not think there is hope for it to be over. Nobody can accuse him of being soft on the Pats. Do you think he would not rather go back to business as usual, finding other ways to distract from CTE?

I think it is likely he looks for another high profile way for the NFL to be in the news other than the scientific proof guys get killed by playing. I predict he will try to connect his, largely black player groups, with police forces for at the very least the optics of responding to BLM. If h does it right with cops involved it could be a PR coup.
 

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Reminds me of the famous picture of Ben Chapman and Jackie Robinson holding a bat so that they didn't have to shake hands.
If you watch the video, they have to hold their smiles for like a solid minute for the pics.

Goodell fails.
 

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If you watch the video, they have to hold their smiles for like a solid minute for the pics.

Goodell fails.
My wife (a moderate sports fan) called him Good-All yesterday. For the rest of the day, I was calling him Good-All. I'm not sure why it made me as happy as it did. But it was a lot of fun.