Felger and Mazz - Creating False Naratives one day at a time

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Caller is tearing them apart and the producer Jimmy Stewart is actually defending the caller. Paraphrasing:
 
Caller: "Mike, you guys started the undefeated talk last week and now you're bashing us and yelling 'Pump the brakes!'?"
F & M: "WHEN DID WE SAY THAT?"
Stewart: "Last week. 2pm Tuesday w/Greg Bedard. We did that."
 
Same Caller: "And where's Chris Simms? Brady is the 7th or 8th rated QB? Rated below Tony Romo?"
Felger: "Chris Simms? When did he say that? I don't even know who he works for currently."
Stewart, not being sarcastic: "Us. CBS Sports. We had him on this year. This caller is spot-on."
Caller: "I'M SPOT ON!"
 
Alright I'm getting back to work but that was delightful.
Wow, that reads like an intervention. An unsuccessful one, but still.
 

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So fans shouldn't be happy that the team is doing well or is it that we should be so accustomed to winning and success as to be unimpressed by it?
Either or - just as long as Mazz gets to yell about it and then make childish sound effects that my 5 year old daughter wouldn't laugh at. I tuned them out.
 

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What's with Felger referring to the Patriots as "you"?
 
Really, Mike? You can't say "the Patriots?"
 
What an asshole.
 
I didn't hear this specifically, but he is usually referring to the fanbase when says "you". 
 

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Earlier he said but yeah the strawman is easier and better radio. Really tells you what you need to know.

I find the show entertaining but I don't take any of it really seriously. Anyone that gets upset about sports radio needs a mental check or go listen to podcasts.
 

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Earlier he said but yeah the strawman is easier and better radio. Really tells you what you need to know.

I find the show entertaining but I don't take any of it really seriously. Anyone that gets upset about sports radio needs a mental check or go listen to podcasts.
Yup, it's why I'm not listening today.  As soon as I'm no longer entertained I move on and a show like today does not sound interesting or entertaining.
 

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Earlier he said but yeah the strawman is easier and better radio. Really tells you what you need to know.
I find the show entertaining but I don't take any of it really seriously. Anyone that gets upset about sports radio needs a mental check or go listen to podcasts.
I caught that too. At least he admits it.
 

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I hate to defend Felger but he always says he hates the "Win, Win Win, Loss, Win, Win, Los, Win" etc looking at a schedule. They openly mocked callers when the schedule came out and had a bit about how asinine looking at the schedule like that is.
 
So far this season he's been pretty clear that the gap between the Patriots and everyone else is huge. I think he even said yesterday "the Bills and Steelers only loss is to the Patriots, and those 2 teams are supposed to be playoff teams" So I think he's repeating the Patriots are the class of the NFL by far, but he isn't going week by week in the schedule and ticking off wins and loses.
 
Mazz was terrible yesterday. "YAY YOU BEAT THE JAGS! WHO'S NEXT ON THE SCHEDULE? CONCORD-CARLISLE? NEWTON NORTH? UMASS?"
 
(I was paraphrasing the teams, but he just listed off high schools and colleges)
 

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Today's opening moronic talking point is that's "annoying" and almost "unfair" that Brady, Rodgers, and to some degree Manning are so smart at the line of scrimmage that they run plays, make adjustments, and get the ball out quicker than most other teams. It's made the game too QB centric, and not physical enough. Click. Try you again tomorrow.
 

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cornwalls@6 said:
Today's opening moronic talking point is that's "annoying" and almost "unfair" that Brady, Rodgers, and to some degree Manning are so smart at the line of scrimmage that they run plays, make adjustments, and get the ball out quicker than most other teams. It's made the game too QB centric, and not physical enough. Click. Try you again tomorrow.
Never too late to start watching Rugby if they think the level of control the QB has is killing the game.
 

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cornwalls@6 said:
Today's opening moronic talking point is that's "annoying" and almost "unfair" that Brady, Rodgers, and to some degree Manning are so smart at the line of scrimmage that they run plays, make adjustments, and get the ball out quicker than most other teams. It's made the game too QB centric, and not physical enough. Click. Try you again tomorrow.
I stayed tuned in a bit longer trying to figure out what the ultimate point was they were aiming for. Far from finding it annoying, it's incredible to watch, not so much Manning anymore but certainly Brady and Rogers. Their ability to diagnose, make the right decision, and have the physical gifts to deliver. It's not likely we will see this level of play again for a very long time when they're gone. Andrew Luck is the heir apparent to the next great QB throne but at this point, especially this year, he's not really close to the same class as the other two #12s.

So while Felger is singing the Pats praise from the mountaintop, he has found something to not like. Have to admire the consistency.
 

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Mazz in prime form today.
Can't take Luvollo's performance seriously because other teams likely haven't taken BOS seriously and thus "let up" this summer
Including the Yankees, who would still have a small hope of winning the division if not for the beating the Sox have delivered this week.
 

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Reasonable talk gets you half the ratings. Go look at the ratings book from yesterday. Not saying it's good but it is what it is.
 

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Reasonable talk gets you half the ratings. Go look at the ratings book from yesterday. Not saying it's good but it is what it is.
 
Earlier this week Mazz had Roche on the Baseball Reporters and Roche called him out on his idiotic hot sports takes. Mazz replied - I'm paraphrasing - "Its my job to stir up the fan base"
 

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Saying you don't feel good with Ghost as the kicker is only slightly less stupid than saying you don't feel good with Brady as the QB.  Yet somehow it is totally not surprising that Mazz would feel that way.
 

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HE'S A KICKER! YOU CAN GET THEM ANYWHERE MIKE! THEY GAVE A KICKER REVIS' MONEY.
 
WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE REVIS or MCCOURTY AND A KICKER MIKE? 
 
Umm he's one of the best kicker's in the league and that's more important than ever.
 
CAN YOU TELL ME HIS SIGNATURE MOMENT? I CAN'T! REMEMBER WHEN HE MISSED THAT FIELD GOAL AGAINST ARIZONA IN WEEK 1 THAT ONE TIME! I DO! 
 
Well you signed him for $4 million, a league average replacement is $2 million.
 
 
HE'S A KICKER! COME ON.
 
 
Rinse and repeat.
 

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I turned it off for an hour, now the reason that Ghost is good is because the Patriots are never rushing out for kicks late in the game and the coaches aren't disorganized so it's easier for Ghost since he's prepared.
 
Cundiff only missed because the coaches were disorganized.
 
Ghost isn't actually the best kicker, it's because Belichick doesn't put him in bad situations and make sure he's prepared.
 

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Mazz's disdain for Ghostkowski goes back to SB42...
"Why wouldn't Bill let him kick?"
"That's not me making a commentary on the kicker. That's the coach making a commentary on the kicker"
 

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NortheasternPJ said:
I turned it off for an hour, now the reason that Ghost is good is because the Patriots are never rushing out for kicks late in the game and the coaches aren't disorganized so it's easier for Ghost since he's prepared.
 
Cundiff only missed because the coaches were disorganized.
 
Ghost isn't actually the best kicker, it's because Belichick doesn't put him in bad situations and make sure he's prepared.
Just curious who youd clearly put over Ghost? Him Hauschka and Tucker are my top 3 and not sure I have a preference.
 

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HE'S A KICKER! YOU CAN GET THEM ANYWHERE MIKE! THEY GAVE A KICKER REVIS' MONEY.



WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE REVIS or MCCOURTY AND A KICKER MIKE?
 
 
Mazz has done one admirable thing here.  He's provided an example of how to correctly use the phrase "begging the question."
 

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That was the same Gotskowski script Mazz rolled out earlier this summer when Hook was in and Felger was away. That was the day Hook sliced Mazz up into bite-sized pieces to the point where Mazz got all pissed off toward the end of the show and sounded like he was seconds away from shutting off Hook's microphone.
 

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With as bad as some kickers have been this year, these guys continue to talk about Ghost.  Mazz continuing with the "when has he ever made a big kick?  I'm just not sure what we're going to get from him in a big moment."  He says that there are plenty of other kickers out there that you can get for much cheaper.  Is he serious?
 
To his credit, Felger says he has no worries about Ghost at all, but just doesn't like how much money he gets.  Says he guarantees that the Pats don't like paying him as much as they do.  He says the Pats never want somebody to be the highest paid at their position.  Marshall Hook asked why then did the Pats franchise him?  Felger says that they had no other choice.  To which Hook should have asked Mazz who else was out there that they could have signed.  
 

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I love the they don't like paying him that much angle. With him, it's either they are cheap or if they do pay top dollar, they don't like it (which is probably true of any employer). And for a team that supposedly never wants to pay top dollar at a position, the Patriots/Belichick/Kraft certainly have done it a lot (Milloy, Vinatieri, Seymour, Wilfork, Mankins, Gronkowski and now McCourty just missing the cut behind Earl Thomas).
 

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No I don't think he is serious he feels he has a job to do and that is to rile up the fan base. What he is saying about Gost is just the most transparently stupid of the stances he takes.
 

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And apparently enough people keep listening that they'll keep doing it.
 
People love to listen to this stuff... or at least getting riled up by it. 
 
One of the few fringe benefits of living outside the New England area is being to easily pick and choose what boston sports talk I get exposed to. I stopped listening to these bozos a long time ago. 
 

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Felger loves to throw it out there.
 
"I'm not saying the Krafts are cheap, but they have a budget that they stick very careful to."
"...and they can sign any player they want for however much they want, but don't forget that the cap is crap and if they don't sign every player its due to the budget that is very important to them."
 
He'll kill them for years for letting Branch go over money, Vinateri go over money, for them not signing Mankins to a huge deal leading to his holdout, yet as soon as they sign their players its bashing them for spending too much money on Mankins, Gostkowski, etc...
 
Sports media, the world where you can never be accountable for anything. Must be nice.
 

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Felger calling attention to Brady's increased mobility over the last 2 years as a big story that has put him "right back at the top of the league", which I totally agree with.
 
The rare times when he's on your side, he is more than listenable. The other times...not so much (but we all knew that)
 

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Credit where it's due, Mazz just completely lost his mind laughing about the fake punt and it somehow turned out to be hilarious, good radio.  He's been funny and on point today, a truly rare occurrence.
 

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I do like when Felger gets clearly annoyed with how much Doug Gottlieb's sports takes stink. 
 
Video of Mazz losing it.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC6l2ef4mdU[/media]
 

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they better be glad i do not run 98.5      
 
they wouild be fired      
 
A i am not saying u have to be a cheerleader toward every boston team    but the every guy is on ped's if they do well is disturbing  
B rooting against  and waiting the C 'S  to tank   and lose games   is bad journalism  
C and why does a Boston Journest hate the pats so much    i mean i am not a huge fan of them etiter    but Bill b and t brady  are all time greats  
what has green bay  done  got hot in the 2010 playoffs   but underpreformed since 2011      
 
u can have hot takes and be respectful of athletes  too    
 

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they better be glad i do not run 98.5      
 
they wouild be fired 
 
I'd actually buy a ticket to see you pitch the idea of canning CBS's 3 year long top rated afternoon drive show to the suits. 
 

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Vinho Tinto said:
I do like when Felger gets clearly annoyed with how much Doug Gottlieb's sports takes stink. 
 
Video of Mazz losing it.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC6l2ef4mdU[/media]
So fucking funny.  Mazz's brain basically melts for a minute or two there.  Thanks for posting that.  I hate the prick but that was great.
 

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Caught a bit today where Felger talked about how a multiyear deal between the Pats and Revis was never going to happen, as the Pats were never going to cede much leverage to Sean Gilbert & Co in a negotiation. Felger's solution was just picking up Revis's option for this season.
 
The worry that Felger didn't mention would be cutting 5-6 guys to pare payroll, picking up the option, going through the period where all the FA's get signed with limited ammo, and then Revis going on a holdout. Yes, he'd have to play the last 6 {?} games to become a FA, but might be a totally wounded season by then.
 

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Vinho Tinto said:
 
I'd actually buy a ticket to see you pitch the idea of canning CBS's 3 year long top rated afternoon drive show to the suits. 
lol   they might be 1 in the ratings  and that wonderful  but   called out the pats is bad biz   there is always more then 1 way to skin a cat       
 

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NortheasternPJ said:
Felger admitted he loves watching the EPL and it's a great product. 
 
That's one of the four horseman. 
He's always said he's a big fan of soccer. He talked about the 2010/14 World Cup a lot. And it was a bit more than, "America rules!"

Mazz was a bucket though.
 

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Harry Hooper said:
Caught a bit today where Felger talked about how a multiyear deal between the Pats and Revis was never going to happen, as the Pats were never going to cede much leverage to Sean Gilbert & Co in a negotiation. Felger's solution was just picking up Revis's option for this season.
 
The worry that Felger didn't mention would be cutting 5-6 guys to pare payroll, picking up the option, going through the period where all the FA's get signed with limited ammo, and then Revis going on a holdout. Yes, he'd have to play the last 6 {?} games to become a FA, but might be a totally wounded season by then.
Felger will tell you the "cap is crap".  He always ignores the teams that are forced to let good and useful players go due to cap issues.  For some reason, he seems to think the Jets never have cap issues. 
 

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Felger would not know Paul Clement from Matt Clement, whose middle name happens to be Paul.

Slow day up there?
 

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Felger would not know Paul Clement from Matt Clement, whose middle name happens to be Paul.

Slow day up there?
Felger also slammed Daniel Nash as a second rate attorney who was always going to get his clock cleaned by Kessler.  I don't know Daniel Nash from a hole in the wall but the legal thread made clear that he was first rate.