Tony Mazz: "Yesterday I was on my soapbox about the Patriots losing their soul and how the Patriot Way was crap. I'm not gonna do that anymore today... *a few seconds pass* ... DAN! I don't want to hear anymore about the Patriot Way, about ethical standards. It's crap!"
Felger and Mazz - Creating False Naratives one day at a time
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I know your joking but I actually said this when it first started. They announced it a week after EEI dumped Dale and rearranged their teams. they called it a major announcement it just seemed like they were fucking with them at that point. I never anticipated it would last this long.
I'll repeat what I wrote in the "Big Show " thread. The only time I could possibly listen to WEEI is during WIGGY Wednesday. That guy is so brutal he makes Andy Gresh sound like a Marconi winner. It says something that a significent number of people don't turn into TSH during Wiggy's segment. I wonder if there is any way to break the ratings down into the 2 to 4 pm Wednesday block to see the exact impact Wiggy has on TSH.
Overall, I agree with Bernie's viewpoint. WEEI is mostly unlistenable except during Red Sox games, Celtics games, or when Dale Arnold is filling in. With the old Dale and Holley team, I tuned into EEI today. Cannot stand Wiggy.
Wiggy really is the complete package. He's got a horribly annoying voice and accent. He's a fucking moron. He's incredibly thin skinned and reactionary when talking about race which leads to cringeworthy conversations. And on top of all of it he manages to do all of this in a manor thats boring. At least Mazz infuriates people.
Just a terrible addition to a mostly awesome radio show.
Just a terrible addition to a mostly awesome radio show.
I doubt anybody will be listening on Monday since Felger is on vacation. However, if you do tune in, expect hours of Tony screaming in his girly voice about how "Bedard can't pitch in Boston because he's a head case with no heart" and explaining how he's a "clubhouse cancer" too. Have fun with that.
They asked Millar about Bedard a week or so ago and Millar told Tony he was wrong. He doesn't like reporters, but he's fine in the clubhouse.
I'm terrified to turn on 98.5 lately. Wednesday, Wiggy stays later than usual, then Friday Wiggy's back! Then Saturday I turn it on, WTF why is Wiggy back on again? I understand he played football but come on.
This is like before Gresh & Zo when you were expecting Gresh to show up on the dial at random times and ruin your day. Now it's Wiggy. See I said the same thing about Gresh, so its not a race thing.
I'm terrified to turn on 98.5 lately. Wednesday, Wiggy stays later than usual, then Friday Wiggy's back! Then Saturday I turn it on, WTF why is Wiggy back on again? I understand he played football but come on.
This is like before Gresh & Zo when you were expecting Gresh to show up on the dial at random times and ruin your day. Now it's Wiggy. See I said the same thing about Gresh, so its not a race thing.
Yup, you were right, I was wrong. I'm listening right now because I was curious to hear his opinion.
I may be alone in my thinking, but I like Mazz more when he is by himself then when he is trying to play off of Felger. For the most part I've enjoyed his Baseball Reporters show (granted I only get between 5-15 minutes of it on a regular basis) and when Felger is gone he seems to put more thought into what he is going to say and has an easier time articulating his points instead of playing the role of Felger's Foil.
I agree - Tony's better when he's in the big chair. He's still not very good, mind you, but better than usual.
The real improvement is when Bertrand is featured. He challenges whomever the primary host is (Felger or Mazz) and gives more to the show as the #2 than Mazz ever has. He clearly prepares and he still cares - two things Radio Tony stopped doing 3 weeks after he got the TSH job.
The real improvement is when Bertrand is featured. He challenges whomever the primary host is (Felger or Mazz) and gives more to the show as the #2 than Mazz ever has. He clearly prepares and he still cares - two things Radio Tony stopped doing 3 weeks after he got the TSH job.
Listened for 20 minutes on the way home, and was treated to Mark "The Beatle" Bertrand absolutely LIGHTING UP Tony Massarotti's pathetic attempt at being an agent provocateur. Bertrand dismantled Tony's strawman arguments with grace and ease. It was actually uncomfortable to listen to Tony audibly squirm as he made his case for Rex Ryan being a better coach than Belichick. Leave the shit-stirring to Felger, Mazz, because you are simply incapable of pulling it off.
The Big Show is crushing it with Holley, Troy Brown, and Tedy Bruschi today.
The Big Show is crushing it with Holley, Troy Brown, and Tedy Bruschi today.
I think it's "Beetle", as in the fat bug not "Beatle" as in british rock god. But yes, that was very, very entertaining.
TSH management has to be horrified listening to this, knowing that Mazz, the guy they are paying like Carl Crawford is getting destroyed by the no-name, extremely cheap Bertrand. And that Bertrand is better with Felger than Mazz ever will be.
TSH management has to be horrified listening to this, knowing that Mazz, the guy they are paying like Carl Crawford is getting destroyed by the no-name, extremely cheap Bertrand. And that Bertrand is better with Felger than Mazz ever will be.
So today's Mazz, CHB, and Wiggy?
I might have to tune in for the unintentional, uncomfortable comedy.
I might have to tune in for the unintentional, uncomfortable comedy.
Bertrand has a bright future. He's been excellent in his role on F&M and can easily take over for either of them. He's not Felger, but he's better than a lot of the jokers that are out there. When he does his show on the weekend its pretty good as well.
Agreed. I usually only get small does of it, but I enjoy Bertrand and Gasper on Saturdays.
Wiggy is atrocious. Tried switching to EEI, got terrible reception, put on music instead. What a waste.
I'll tell ya something, if CHB ever actually gave a shit about radio he would be pretty good. I actually liked him years ago on EEI until they canned him because he was literally balancing his checkbook during show.
I don't know...I heard Shank say the other day that Buchholz "has been babied like no pitcher in the history of baseball has". A 9000% upgrade of 0 is still 0.
Tony Mazz is such a fucking idiot I can't get over it. Adrian Gonzalez is the league MVP because he hits third. That's his entire rational for it. How the fuck has someone covered baseball for as long as he has be so godamn dense? How is this possible? I really, really hate Mazz.
You're being completely disingenuous. That wasn't his argument, his argument is that he's the best hitter (which is why he's batting third) on the best hitting team in Major League Baseball. And Mazz was speaking out against the people who have started talking about Ellsbury as MVP all of a sudden. He said that Gonzalez has won the Red Sox more games than Ellsbury this year and that no one was championing Ellsbury before the last two games, which he is correct about.
I still hate him. I turned on the baseball reporters today and this is what i heard:
"Crawford is not 20 million dollar a year player, how the Red Sox went all in on this guy and slowed up in their pursuit of Teixeira..."
Click. Time for some music.
GET OVER TEIXEIRA!!! Im sick of hearing about him. It was 3 years ago! The team is better off with Adrian Gonzalez.
Id rather listen to wiggy.
Mazz is insufferable as ever today saying the Yankees have the edge in this division because the Red Sox have more question marks. Hey Mazz, who is the Yankees #2 behind CC Sabathia? It sure ain't going to be Lester/Beckett.
I see this type of complaint a lot. It also crops up in relation to the CHB, as well.
Which approach generates more phone calls/emailed columns/passionate reaction?
A) Everything is beautiful, the Red Sox can't be beat.
or
B) The Yankees MAY (which Mazz said, at least the first time) have an edge in this division...etc.
Dude has to fill 4 hours on a Friday afternoon with calls and arguments. If he came on the air at 2 PM and declared, "Folks, I see the standings and this series this weekend and I gotta tell you - BORING. They both make the post-season, none of this actually matters because they both have the playoffs almost locked up and the teams are basically even, with the Sox holding a slight advantage in some areas."
Some things that Mazz says are intentionally stupid. Because he gets paid to have people CALL THE SHOW AND ARGUE WITH HIM. Why is this so hard to understand?
Felger needs to stop trying to turn Haynesworth into Moss II: Electric Boogaloo. Maybe I expected too much but I certainly didn't think Felger's "analysis" of the Patriots defensive changes were going to have "Why is Bill catering to Haynesworth? Why change for one player?"
Its sad that they continue to go the controversy route. The ratings indicate that hey have grabbed the intelligent listeners, keep them by speaking intelligently about sports instead of trying to create problems because eventually the listeners will figure out the scheme.
It was also frustrating that Felger took a discussion about Sanders and used it to bash Moss. Something to the effect of "if Moss had Sanders' drive, he would have played pro basketball and football." A bunch of things wrong with that statement, but most of all annoying that Felger gets so hung on bashing certain guys. Thank God Pandora has a Mitch Hedberg station.
First off, Mazz is completely absurd. Enough with the contrarian schtick. We get it. At least Felger does it well! 10-2 means something, no matter how much you want to deny it. Felger is absolutely killing you. Nothing spells out Mazz's absurd bias (either his over the top Yankee love, the same kind of fandom he bashes anyone who feels that way about Boston teams to death for, or his Borges-esque inability to admit anything the Red Sox do is good) better than him saying the Sox being 4-0 against Sabathia is an advantage to the Yankees. That Felger and Mazz are in disagreement on this is what the show should have more off, as 90% of the time its Felger bashing Boston teams to death and Mazz piling it on. Thank God one of the two is being logical this time and not letting their contrarianism get in the way, and of course it is Felger, who has proven time and time again how much better he is at being a more logical and entertaining media member than Mazz is.
As for Felger, dissappointed he's not giving the Pats more credit for shifting their defense based on their personnel, something he is always demanding they do. And surprised that he didn't jump all over Mazz earlier in the show about the cap being crap when Mazz talked about the Pats not wanting to have a NFL/MLB player on their team taking up a decent percentage of the salary cap. Overall though, happy he's back from vaca, as Mazz was unbearable last week.
As for Felger, dissappointed he's not giving the Pats more credit for shifting their defense based on their personnel, something he is always demanding they do. And surprised that he didn't jump all over Mazz earlier in the show about the cap being crap when Mazz talked about the Pats not wanting to have a NFL/MLB player on their team taking up a decent percentage of the salary cap. Overall though, happy he's back from vaca, as Mazz was unbearable last week.
Felger began this journey with a debateable but very decent point last week. He understood the signing, favored in fact, but in no event would extend Haynesworth's stint here as the Patriots did with Moss. Fine.
Evidently, the dog days of summer now require crack cocaine. Complete nonsense from someone who knows better.
How awesome was Jimmy's rant on Steve Williams? Equating him to a batboy and the bowling alley sprayer was hilarious.
Same shit today. I don't typically have a problem with Felger and usually enjoy his contrarian outlook, but he's not making any sense here.
One more thing, can Mazz please cut the shit with his Sully/Murph Boston accent to criticize the fans. It was pretty good at first but now it is just fucking annoying. "Ah yeah, but we got a first round draft pick."
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EDIT -- Rolling ahead 4 days, via PFT.com. I'm sorry but these two clowns in this instance richly deserve to have their noses rubbed in it:
Only caught a few snippets today, but I did hear Dan Roche's rap song which included a line about "the CHB".
Do Dan and Dan not get along?
Do Dan and Dan not get along?