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judyb

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InsideTheParker said:
Now 5 on the road. (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_05_25_nyamlb_tbamlb_1&mode=recap_away&c_id=nyy) That got the Yankees just their fifth win in the last 18 games at the Trop. But who's counting? Anyway, my point wasn't that Carp stinks. Rather, I was asking the mind of Sosh to remind me why Overbay was released. Probably it was just because Carp gives them more flexibility b/c of his supposed ability to play LF.
Well, it's probably also because he's a decade younger and under control for multiple years. But I can't even imagine how they could manage to carry a 1B only bench player with the rest of the roster as it is.
 

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OK. He can play third though. No, he's happy being an every day 2B-man.
 
Scutaro playing third base only happened with the Giants out of desperation.  You'd never sign him to play third.  And, as stated above, he was no longer usable at SS.  
 
In other news about former Red Sox SS, Lowrie's move to 2b for the A's seems increasingly likely to be permanent.  Also, he missed several games last week after being hit in the foot by a pitch. 
 
Edit:  Re: Beltre:  http://www.fangraphs.com/images.aspx?img=not/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Beltre1.gif
 

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Robert Coello (pitched for 6 games for Sox in 2010 and was then traded for the immortal Tony Thomas) has strung together some nice outings for the Angels.
 
From what I remember the Sox signed him out of an indpendent league and he had a little bit of hype and then there was some sort of rash of injuries or something and he got rushed to the majors and disapointed.  Then got caught in a roster crunch and got DFA.
 
Is also using a 'new pitch' he calls the 'WTF' http://sports.yahoo.com/news/angels-pitcher-robert-coello-s-mystery-pitch-leaves-hitters-muttering-under-their-breath-185910466.html
 

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Michael Bowden outrighted to AAA by Cubs after clearing waivers.
 
Since his trade to the Cubs he has developed into a servicable middle reliever, so its a little surprising he didn't find a taker on waivers.
 
SInce the trade:
 
44 Games
53.1 IP
1.22 WHIP
3.21 ERA
 
Still just 26, her may be better off going to Japan for a couple years and then coming back.
 

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vadertime said:
Robert Coello (pitched for 6 games for Sox in 2010 and was then traded for the immortal Tony Thomas) has strung together some nice outings for the Angels.
 
From what I remember the Sox signed him out of an indpendent league and he had a little bit of hype and then there was some sort of rash of injuries or something and he got rushed to the majors and disapointed.  Then got caught in a roster crunch and got DFA.
 
Is also using a 'new pitch' he calls the 'WTF' http://sports.yahoo.com/news/angels-pitcher-robert-coello-s-mystery-pitch-leaves-hitters-muttering-under-their-breath-185910466.html
 
I recall an old thread started by Eric Van breaking out Coello's minor league performance:
 
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/59935-sox-purchase-coello/
 

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Hideki Okajima into the game for the A's! Catching up on the DVR with no sound of course and this sandy haired lefty Japanese guy is coming in and I'm thinking he looks familiar. 2007 comes back right away. And he gives up a wild pitch and a two run double. 
 
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Josh Beckett is concerned about his pitching future: http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/9327351/josh-beckett-los-angeles-dodgers-visit-nerve-specialist
 
Wow.  But for the 1 millionth time: Thank you Dodgers!!!!
 
EDIT:  Now on yahoo.com front page: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/josh-beckett-retirement-possible-because-numbness-fingers-163222403.html
 
He's really considering retirement.
 
But, also of interest, the yahoo guy linked to Art Martone.  I used to love Art, when I was reading projo.com/redsox.  But as soon as he stopped writing, I kind of stopped visiting.  Is he writing again?  Although the article linked has him as csnne.com editor.  It also looks like he left projo.
 

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Jason Bay hit two home runs today, putting him at 8 HR for the season thus far for Seattle (4 HR in the last five games).  Looks like he's putting his Mets disaster behind him.
 
 

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Jason Bay hit two home runs today, putting him at 8 HR for the season thus far for Seattle (4 HR in the last five games).  Looks like he's putting his Mets disaster behind him.
 
And the mets are still paying Bay...
 

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Well, how about a former Sox first round draft choice?
 
John Curtice, #1 pick of the Sox in 1997: http://hamptonroads.com/2013/06/1stround-mlb-pick-curtice-its-hard-walk-away
 
He was HS teammates with Michael Cuddyer.
 
It's safe to say he didn't stay in shape after leaving the game... :astonished:
 
"Ask anybody who ever grabbed a bat and got into the batter's box against me," Curtice said. "It wasn't easy to get a hit off me."
 
I went 3 for 4 in a beer league softball game against him.
 

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Well, how about a former Sox first round draft choice?
 
John Curtice, #1 pick of the Sox in 1997: http://hamptonroads.com/2013/06/1stround-mlb-pick-curtice-its-hard-walk-away
 
He was HS teammates with Michael Cuddyer.
 
It's safe to say he didn't stay in shape after leaving the game...
 
I went 3 for 4 in a beer league softball game against him.
Cool story, thanks.
He had two labrum tears repaired and was facing a third surgery, wow. At that point the body becomes limiting.
 

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FedEx appears to be on the Lavarnway shuttle for the LAD -- up when needed, then back down to AAA when everyone's healthy.  He's getting quite a bit of PT with AJ Ellis out.
 
Old friend Matt Murton making fans in Japan.
 

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MRI reveals Carl Crawford's hamstring injury is "fairly significant."
 
More time for Yasiel Puig.
 

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Jose Alvarez made his big league debut for the Tigers last night against the Tribe . . . 6 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K.
 
Alvarez was everyone's favorite sleeper in 2007-8. He and Hunter Jones went in the trade for Jeremy Hermida in 09.
 

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Anthony Rizzo through May 11: .288/.361/.554/.915 in 155 PA. That's the day he and the Cubs agreed to terms on his 7-year, $41 million extension.
 
Since then: .202/.288/.354/.642 in 111 PA.
 
In fact that "hot start" of his can be broken down further. In 90 PA through April 26, he had an abysmal .173/.256/.420/.675 line before going on a .448/.508/.741/1.249 tear in 65 PA over 15 games.
 

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mabrowndog said:
Anthony Rizzo through May 11: .288/.361/.554/.915 in 155 PA. That's the day he and the Cubs agreed to terms on his 7-year, $41 million extension.
 
Since then: .202/.288/.354/.642 in 111 PA.
 
In fact that "hot start" of his can be broken down further. In 90 PA through April 26, he had an abysmal .173/.256/.420/.675 line before going on a .448/.508/.741/1.249 tear in 65 PA over 15 games.
It's way too early to tell much about how his career is going to turn out but he's looked lost at the plate every time Ive seen him.
 

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Marlon Byrd hit his 10th HR of the season today.  Has done this in only 155 AB. On the hand he also has stuckout 52 times in those 155 AB.
 

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Hideki Okajima currently pitching for the A's in the 13th against the Yankees. He looks like he could be the bad guy in a Japanese version of Blue Crush.
 

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Youk back on the DL. Man did the Sox blow that one!
What the Sox blew was moving him to 3rd and trading for Adrian. Especially since it looks like most of Adrian's power has been sapped.
 

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Oki got shipped back to AAA.

Also, in the a game 2 days ago, Lowrie underthrew to first on a fairly routine play (the first baseman couldn't handle the short-hop) and Jason Bay smashed into his second baseman on a pop-up, leading to run for the A's.
 

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What the Sox blew was moving him to 3rd and trading for Adrian. Especially since it looks like most of Adrian's power has been sapped.
 
 
In hindsight sure, and to go just a little further back, playing the Rangers recently reminded me how nice (albeit expensive) it would be to have had Beltre at 3rd and Youk at first the last 2+ years.  Open question whether playing Youk at first would have been enough to keep him healthy given how badly he's breaking down but Beltre has managed to play up to his contract so far.
 

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In hindsight sure, and to go just a little further back, playing the Rangers recently reminded me how nice (albeit expensive) it would be to have had Beltre at 3rd and Youk at first the last 2+ years.  Open question whether playing Youk at first would have been enough to keep him healthy given how badly he's breaking down but Beltre has managed to play up to his contract so far.
Well, that was all part of the decision. They could have paid Beltre and kept Youk at 1st.
 

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Why are people so sure that he wouldn't have crumbled playing 1st? I'm thinking more trading him when he still had value, but to each their own.
 

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I think a lot of it is because 3rd is a much more physically demanding position when compared to first base. Plus, it's rare to meet a Red Sox fan who doesn't love Beltre and that's probably fueling it as well 
 

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They didn't really trade Youk when he had value though. They covered almost all the salary and got two players who sucked really historically badly before being released within months.

And if they'd followed the Beltre route, they'd have Rizzo to play for the broken down Youk.
 

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Yamaico Navarro DFA by Baltimore.  Hard to believe there were some people that were po'ed when he was traded for Aviles.
 
Since that trade to KC on 7/30/11 he has been traded to Pitt (12/7/11) and then to Baltimore (11/30/12).
 
So in the span of just under 2 years he has been in 4 organizations and will soon join his 5th presumably.
 
Also Lars Anderson batting just .222 with 1 HR in 167 AB for Charlotte (White Sox AAA).  Still just 25, so he still has a chance but at this point it may be a strech to even call him a AAAA player.
 

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Reporting for duty. Let's wait and see how the year plays out. While WMB was stinking up the joint so badly people were talking about our lack of depth at 3rd, Youks was doing a great job for the Yankees.
 
Ahem.
 

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Yamaico Navarro DFA by Baltimore.  Hard to believe there were some people that were po'ed when he was traded for Aviles.
 
Since that trade to KC on 7/30/11 he has been traded to Pitt (12/7/11) and then to Baltimore (11/30/12).
 
So in the span of just under 2 years he has been in 4 organizations and will soon join his 5th presumably.
 
It's sort of interesting, because he hasn't really been that bad.  In the majors since the trade he's been uninspiring at: 113 PA, 101 AB, 23 H, 1 2b, 1 3b, 1 HR, 9 BB, 26 K.  For his career in AAA, he's at about 750 plate appearances with a slash line of 268 / 354 / 440.  Still only 25, his infield defense must be really bad or his attitude must suck to not have a position on the 40 man somewhere. 
 

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Scott Atchison activated by the Mets for last night's game, comes in in relief and gets reinjured warming up on the mound.  Line of 0.0 0 0 0 0
 
Replaced on the mound by Brandon Lyon who was later replaced by David Aardsma
 

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People are still talking about WMB's falling off the charts. No one mourns when Iggy takes his spot. I was always in the keep Beltre, play Youk at first, and we don't know how that would have played out.
 
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InsideTheParker said:
People are still talking about WMB's falling off the charts. No one mourns when Iggy takes his spot. I was always in the keep Beltre, play Youk at first, and we don't know how that would have played out.
 
Because of what transpired last year, You couldn't sign Youks for this year (they had already anointed Middlebrooks the starter), but, take last year.  It wasn't that no one saw that Youks was fragile, and that Middlebrooks was heating up in AAA, the idea was to create depth
 
So, keep Youks, and have Middlebrooks waiting in the wings.  It seemed entirely unnecessary that Youks was let go for barely nothing.  Especially since it was Bobby Valentine that created the mess that forced their hand.
 

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Because of what transpired last year, You couldn't sign Youks for this year (they had already anointed Middlebrooks the starter), but, take last year.  It wasn't that no one saw that Youks was fragile, and that Middlebrooks was heating up in AAA, the idea was to create depth
 
So, keep Youks, and have Middlebrooks waiting in the wings.  It seemed entirely unnecessary that Youks was let go for barely nothing.  Especially since it was Bobby Valentine that created the mess that forced their hand.
 
I actually agree with this, since Valentine is clearly history's greatest monster. Without Bobby's insane fit of pique, that's likely what would have happened.
 
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Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
He's 24 and without major injury and can reasonably be expected to improve.
 
Yet, he had a back issue this year too.  Could this be the start of something? :)
 
And no one is saying he can't improve with other quality third basemen on the team.  For example, similar to the Drew/Iglesias situation now.
 
I really think you are arguing a point that I'm not making.  You think I wasn't excited about Middlebrooks progressing in AAA last year?  You think I didn't see that Youks is getting older and more injury prone?  OK, Youks gets injured, in steps Middlebrooks.
 
Or maybe, since Middlebrooks could easily morph into Jeff Francoeur, especially with that ridiculous K/BB rate, it could have been better for his development to ease him in a-la Iglesias.  Example: favorable match-ups, less pressure, etc.
 
EDIT: Or basically I guess I'm repeating my previous post you responded to.  So, I've beat this dead horse!
 
Oh, and now that he's Yankee scum - back surgery?  That may have him miss the whole season (maybe he comes back in mid-Sept)?  HA!!
 

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Ciriaco starting at short for the Padres today. He tried to beat out a grounder to short, was out, and Mike Krukow said he got to first in 4.0 seconds. That's very fast for a RHB. 
 
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