#FORG1V3: A-Rod's Suspension is Over

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
Aww, but they didn't mention the $6M bonus this year on HR #6.
Sadly it's no longer forgone for #715 overall.
A lot of folks consider that good news. He's sitting on 654 HR's now, so even at 15 / year he won't crack 700. Again, good news. I'm interested to see what he has left in the tank and if he's even a 20 HR guy at this point.
 

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If he's a 20HR guy for the next 3 years, it's going to pretty damn tight for #715.

I wonder if he ends his last season at #712 or something, whether someone will sign him and give him the chance to break it. It'd be a chance for one of the smaller teams to fill their stadium because it's certain to be full, but there might be lots of bad publicity before that.
 

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Rudy Pemberton said:
What significance does HR # 715 hold for a steroid user? It only vaults him to 2nd place. I don't see a ton of potential ticket sales or TV revenue generated by that chase.
3rd,actually,but your point stands.

Edit to add: unless you're not counting Bonds, which occurred to me right after I posted.
 

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Hyde Park Factor said:
A lot of folks consider that good news. He's sitting on 654 HR's now, so even at 15 / year he won't crack 700. Again, good news. I'm interested to see what he has left in the tank and if he's even a 20 HR guy at this point.
 
I suspect he meant that it was sad that NYY won't have to pay him the $6m bonus.
 

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Rudy Pemberton said:
What significance does HR # 715 hold for a steroid user? It only vaults him to 2nd place. I don't see a ton of potential ticket sales or TV revenue generated by that chase.
The point is it triggers contract escalators, so it's pretty damn significant for this steroid user.
 

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Rudy Pemberton said:
I meant in terms of the post before that...where someone asked if another team would pick up an A-Rod stuck on 712 homers. Him breaking the # of homers Ruth hit seems less significant if he's on the Marlins, say, and I doubt the acquiring team would generate much marketing benefit.
 
I doubt it. No one picked up Bonds when he was about 70 hits from 3000,  less than 70 runs scored from Henderson's all time record, 4 RBI's from 2000, 14 games from 3000 played and on and on. 
 
He hit about .280, 28HR's and led the ML in walks and OBP  that last season.  They wanted him out. 
 

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
Why on earth would I consider it good news? Because of Ruth? HA! If you're a Yankees fan sure, I guess. Otherwise, I would absolutely love to see ARod pass Ruth in a Yankees uniform and get a $6M bonus for doing so. F both of em.
Not because of Ruth, because of A-roid. If he never hit another HR again that would be fine with me. Hell, if he never gets another hit that would be fine too.
 

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Awesome. Glad he's back.
 
The Yankees/Red Sox have been oddly calm as of late, and with Jeter gone, there's really no ties to the old rivalry.
 

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brandonchristensen said:
Awesome. Glad he's back.
 
The Yankees/Red Sox have been oddly calm as of late, and with Jeter gone, there's really no ties to the old rivalry.

 
Oh you probably mean Yankee ties.  I'm leaving the pic anyway.
 

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Oh you probably mean Yankee ties.  I'm leaving the pic anyway.
I was on my way here to post a similar pic in response to Brandon, but you beat me to it. His larger point stands though; the ol' rivalry ain't what it used to be. A non-baseball-fan friend asked me the other day what the biggest rivalry in the sport is and I hesitated before answering. Kind of sad in a strange way.
 

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GRPhilipp said:
I was on my way here to post a similar pic in response to Brandon, but you beat me to it. His larger point stands though; the ol' rivalry ain't what it used to be. A non-baseball-fan friend asked me the other day what the biggest rivalry in the sport is and I hesitated before answering. Kind of sad in a strange way.
Dodgers/Giants, no?
 

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InsideTheParker said:
Dodgers/Giants, no?
That's actually what I told him, but I live in Giant country, so I doubt I'm being objective. Cubs-Cards has great history, but little current vitality. What else is there? Yankees-Mets? Cubs-White Sox? Dodgers-D'backs? (!) Sox-Rays? I think Dodgers-Giants tops them all right now.
 

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So we are discounting all history and going with right now?  Right now the biggest rivalry in sport is Alabama-Auburn or that Barcelona-Madrid thingie.
 

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snowmanny said:
So we are discounting all history and going with right now?  Right now the biggest rivalry in sport is Alabama-Auburn or that Barcelona-Madrid thingie.
I was talking about baseball only, and as of now. History matters, of course, but sometimes these things seem to blossom pretty quickly. If all there is to it is some years-ago stuff... well then it's not much of a rivalry, right?
 

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snowmanny said:
Right now the biggest rivalry in sport is Alabama-Auburn
Numbers? The percent delta between an average Army or Harvard or Navy or Yale game vs an Army-Navy game or Harvard-Yale game is, at least historically, much, much larger than between an average Auburn or Bama game and an Auburn-Alabama game. Like, by orders of magnitude.

I haven't looked at the numbers recently, but as of a couple of years ago Army-Navy was by far the biggest rivalry in college football.
 

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Who's winning can impact how big a rivalry is in the long term, but the Army Navy ratings still show very clearly that that game draws a tremendous amount of viewers compared to either team in a vacuum. It's numerically, not just in name, a huge, huge rivalry. Bama-Auburn draws more viewers, but not compared to the ratings of the teams in other games-it's bigger because the teams are generally more popular, not because of the rivalry in particular. The Army Navy game's viewership is driven by that particular rivalry in a way that no other game outside of Harvard Yale comes close to approaching.
 

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