G4: Everyone Fights, No One Quits
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He’s not having a great series, but people gotta understand that he’s a really good number 1 defenseman and part of the solution going forward and not a problem.
Their problem is they have 2 legitimate top six forwards on this team, and one of them is injured. Defensive mistakes get magnified because they just can’t fucking score.
“Made it to game 7” as a historically good team is just about the least they could have done last year. There is no sugar coating that.
Game 7 of Round 1 after setting the points record? Getting doubled up in shots over and over this playoffs and leading the entire field in too many men and your top two defensemen can’t clear the puck?
You watched this series at all?
It’s tough to play against a headwind of poor refereeing that is the equivalent of having Angel Hernandez umpiring with a hair across his ass because someone questioned a call he made.
After I saw the new angle on the Bennett punch during the pregame I decided to watch The Iron Claw instead.
somehow this was less depressing it seems.
McCavoy is one of the top 10 defenseman in hockey and isnt in the top 20 reasons why we are losing this series. He plays top minutes against the top opponents and we would be a way worse team without him.
He looked and sounded like Tim Conway talking about that.
Yeah. I'm done. With more than just him.
You know, I’ve been trying to put into words what their problem is as an organization, and this is exactly perfectly worded. 1000% this is the problem.
Montgomery: “We thought that Coyle was on top of our goaltender, and if Coyle is able to stand his ground he could have cleared the puck. That inhibited our goaltender from being able to react to playing the puck.”
The panel on the NHL Network agrees the league blew the call.
Everybody but Bisonette agrees Toronto blew the call.
The panel on the NHL Network agrees the league blew the call.
Everybody but Bisonette agrees Toronto blew the call.
Precisely. This league has shown that it only responds to one thing: being embarrassed by controversy. If Neely or Sweeney actually raised a proper stink in the media about Marchand getting cheapshoted by Bennett, maybe tonight goes differently.
Did they just say PPs are 22-11? Everybody citing SOG need to factor the call disparity, as well.
Why has the Embellishment minor been mothballed? OEL? Tkachuk? Both should have earned diving calls.
Great sport, shit league. Between Acciari being slew-footed 1.2 seconds before the St. Louis goal in G5 and DoPS Saint Sam Bennett in Gs 3 & 4… I’ve never been closer to being through.
Why has the Embellishment minor been mothballed? OEL? Tkachuk? Both should have earned diving calls.
Great sport, shit league. Between Acciari being slew-footed 1.2 seconds before the St. Louis goal in G5 and DoPS Saint Sam Bennett in Gs 3 & 4… I’ve never been closer to being through.
Seemed like he was ready to apologize for challenging the play. Zero emotion.
I’m not sure how anyone with a brain can look at the Bennett goal and not say it’s goalie interference. How in God’s name can Swayman still make a play on the puck when his own player gets shoved straight into him? And if it’s not goalie interference it’s a cross check. That non-call changed the game and in turn changed the series. A 2-2 series vs 3-1 is absolutely huge. Combine this with the different standard of officiating in Game 3 and no discipline on Bennett….a joke.
Yes. I have watched every minute. Have you played hockey at all? I have. There are a lot of good players in the playoffs, every game in the NHL is closer to a coinflip than the media would have you think. They lost but have had a lot of officiating breaks go against them. To say they haven't shown up at all is ignorant and reactionary.
I’ve been watching playoff hockey for whatever. Almost 50 years. It looks a certain way, and the Bruins don’t play it. Even peak Oilers scored plenty of greasy goals in the crease. I just don’t think “quality chances” is a magic market efficiency, and if it is, this team is not talented enough to be trailblazers. You put the freaking puck on net.
Biz gets around to they blew the call but he can see the thing they hung their hat on as to why they didn't call it... even Biz can't full throat defend it...
I started a Neely thread many years ago. I stand by my question: What has he done to earn and keep his job?
Agreed. Toronto is going to find a narrative to screw boston every time, consistancy with previous rulings is irrelevant.
I don’t think any coach would have a material impact on this team. They’re not very good. I could quibble with some stuff but they have extremely outperformed by even getting to the second round. They have 2 top 6 players on the team and 1 of them is out. Danton Heinan didn’t have a contact in training camp and was 5th on TOI. And they’re one of the last 8 teams in the league. Maybe if they played a “pack the house” counterpunch offense it could do something but maybe it raises their ceiling to a short loss in the ECF.
I also don’t put a lot of weight into the impact of calling out refs as I don’t think it does much and people only remember the times it works vs the times it does nothing. Could it be helpful? Maybe. I’m skeptical it actually does much of anything so it’s pretty far down on my list of complaints.
They haven’t shown up, but it’s a banner week for dudes telling me how much hockey they’ve played while shitting from their mouths. Thanks for letting me know that NHL players are good; I appreciate the value of your playing experience in arriving at that conclusion.
Last year’s playoffs (after having the greatest regular season ever) were poor by Montgomery. This year, with a team that almost no one picked to make the playoffs, the Bruins nearly won their division, and won a round. Now they are head to head with a wagon team who is at their peak and they are losing because FLORIDA IS A BETTER TEAM THAN THEM. I don’t agree with everything Monty has done but firing him after those two seasons because he doesn’t blame refs is absurd and reactionary.
Im as frustrated as anyone…but I’m off to bed. Those of you I know on here are lovely people, I’m sure the rest of you are too. And we’re all pulling for the same thing. A 400 PIM performance in Florida that leaves the Panthers crippled for the rest of the playoffs.
Go Bs
2 different sets of rules all series. Any contact from the bruins is called, any panther falls down or snaps their head back its a power play. Panthers are allowed a ton of leeway to play "playoff hockey" uncalled, bruins are not. The power play differential is undeniable.
You're welcome, maybe the volume of people telling you that you are wrong should make you second guess your position or something?
Florida may be a better team but is that why the B’s are losing? This may well be a 2-2 series with decent officiating.
This is absolutely right. This team is soft, soft, soft. Plenty of chatter here about how they lack skills, but they also lack grit. One can make up for the other (at least to some extent) - teams that have neither get run, on the scoreboard and on the ice.
"Bruins culture" used to mean, "we play hard, we will take the body every chance we get, you will answer if you take liberties with our guys, especially our stars."
Now? "Bruins culture" has no meaning other than "we whine when we get pushed around, we whine some more when we lose."
Why would any fan of the Neely (the player) era Bs root for the guys who wear these uniforms today, other than they're from the same city? The "culture" isn't recognizable.
Yep. This is exactly what’s going to happen. Rangers are going to cakewalk into the Finals.
From the league’s explanation, they didn’t use some sort of incidental contact principle or anything. They found Sway’s ability to make the play wasn’t impacted.
They told us their reason, so we don’t need to speculate. And I just don’t see how that conclusion can stand. What did they think they saw? That the puck was in the net too fast? I mean, it would have been a good save but he has been making them, plus the benefit of the doubt needs to be that a big league player will make a big league play. Just like in every fucking sport.
It’s just an indefensible call.
They told us their reason, so we don’t need to speculate. And I just don’t see how that conclusion can stand. What did they think they saw? That the puck was in the net too fast? I mean, it would have been a good save but he has been making them, plus the benefit of the doubt needs to be that a big league player will make a big league play. Just like in every fucking sport.
It’s just an indefensible call.
It’s almost as if we can look at other things and evaluate them, like last season of him shitting himself in the playoffs with a very talented team, literally the same bad personnel decision this season re: Forbort, and a total lack of response from his players after his best two players get beat up and/or sucker punched and concussed this year.
But I get that it’s more beneficial to your schtick to ignore that stuff and concentrate instead on this year’s team not being good enough. God knows that two things can’t be true at once.
Just want to quote a sane and balanced view of the situation. Pasta and Charlie are a core to build around, if you are assessing the team and highlighting them as the problem im glad you are not a gm.
Even Bissonnette said it probably should have been chalked off, he just thought the league might let it go because the contact wasn't that hard. Which is probably the most pro-Bruins things he's said the entire playoffs.
Bennett also pushed the guy into the goaltender so neither player could get the puck, got it himself and scored.
It’s incomprehensible.
Yeah not really here the hair shirt pulling that is going to go on. The Bruins this year are ahead of where they should have been considering the talent and team... they are just getting fuck worked right now by the refs.... it was going to be an uphill battle without that against this Florida team.... now... it's just absurd... there aren't many teams built to overcome something like this
That’s a little much. Teams that are soft, soft, soft don’t make the playoffs let alone win a round. The Buffalo Sabres are soft, soft, soft. They probably have more talent than the Bruins and they can’t even sniff the playoffs. The Bruins had a better season than 24 other teams.
Yeah, lots of people were crazy about Everybody Loves Raymond, too.
Do you really want to make this particular issue a popularity contest—like, the democratization of whether doing nothing when your best player gets baited into a fight by the same guy who went after your goalie last season and now this one, and your captain gets concussed with a sucker punch constitutes showing up? Before we get there, should I tell you that the other guy invoking his playing time was telling me that Bennett didn’t deliberately punch Marchand? Because I’m still pretty OK with my position on that one.
I beg you to not look up any other goals that were disallowed these playoffs due to Goalie Interference... it'll make you blow your top... there are some doozies out there
??? I didnt say shit about that. I think it was a deliberate punch and Bennett's go to move for the record. Why is that relevant for a case that the entire bruins team "didn't show up"? I am sure you would win a popularity contest on here. I am an old fogey and dont post often.
With the way they are officiated... if the Bruins played this way they would literally spend all period in the penalty box and lose games by 5-6 goals every night, and would be a miracle to even sniff the playoffs.... Look at the interference call for the hit on Tcachuk.... I'm fine if people say "I want nastiness and I'm fine losing every game by 5-6 goals" but if you want nastiness and also playoff success... the Bruins are NOT allowed to play that type of hockey anymore. They just aren't officiated that way.
