Game 7 NOTHING EASY - Desperate Times Call for Desperate Measures

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A core of Pastrnak, McAvoy, Lindholm, Zacha, DeBrusk, Hall, Coyle, Ullmark, Swayman, is going to win a lot of regular season games next year. They’ll probably be in the same position that Florida was this year. Who would you rather be right now? Boston or Pittsburgh? How about Washington? Islanders?
Oh, Boston for sure, but there’s another problem: their division. Buffalo and Ottawa both look like they’re on the upswing. Toronto’s not going anywhere, and may now be a different team now that the first-round burden is off their back. Florida may have just needed this season to get used to the big changes they made this offseason. Only Tampa may be waning, and even then, they’re in a comparable position to the Bruins, maybe a little better even. Only Detroit and Montreal look like dregs in the Atlantic next year.
 

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Oh, Boston for sure, but there’s another problem: their division. Buffalo and Ottawa both look like they’re on the upswing. Toronto’s not going anywhere, and may now be a different team now that the first-round burden is off their back. Florida may have just needed this season to get used to the big changes they made this offseason. Only Tampa may be waning, and even then, they’re in a comparable position to the Bruins, maybe a little better even. Only Detroit and Montreal look like dregs in the Atlantic next year.
It’s not exactly the AL East. I’ll still take Boston’s roster over Buffalo’s & Detroit’s next year.
 

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It’s not exactly the AL East. I’ll still take Boston’s roster over Buffalo’s & Detroit’s next year.
Detroit’s for sure, but if ULP is legitimate and Chychrun stabilizes Ottawa’s back end, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that they’ll push the Bruins hard just to make WC1.
 

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Detroit’s for sure, but if ULP is legitimate and Chychrun stabilizes Ottawa’s back end, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that they’ll push the Bruins hard just to make WC1.
And would that be the worst thing? I’d argue if the Bruins we’re playing “playoff” games down the stretch they win this series. President’s Trophy curse exists for a reason.
 

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A core of Pastrnak, McAvoy, Lindholm, Zacha, DeBrusk, Hall, Coyle, Ullmark, Swayman, is going to win a lot of regular season games next year. They’ll probably be in the same position that Florida was this year. Who would you rather be right now? Boston or Pittsburgh? How about Washington? Islanders?
A core of Pastrnak, McAvoy, Lindholm, Zacha, DeBrusk, Hall, Coyle, Ullmark, Swayman, is going to win a lot of regular season games next year. They’ll probably be in the same position that Florida was this year. Who would you rather be right now? Boston or Pittsburgh? How about Washington? Islanders?
It’s a solid core. And it’s possibly without Bergeron, Krejci, Bertuzzi, Orlov, Hathaway & Clifton. With limited cap space or immediate impact players. Is it possible they are they ‘24 Panthers? Sure,

And to answer your direct Q, yeah, I’d rather be the 23-24 Bs than the Caps or Penguins. But that’s a fairly low bar. Neither team has an immediate future. And yes, I’m about as pissed right now as Too Many Men on the Ice in ‘79.
 

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It’s a solid core. And it’s possibly without Bergeron, Krejci, Bertuzzi, Orlov, Hathaway & Clifton. With limited cap space or immediate impact players. Is it possible they are they ‘24 Panthers? Sure,

And to answer your direct Q, yeah, I’d rather be the 23-24 Bs than the Caps or Penguins. But that’s a fairly low bar. Neither team has an immediate future. And yes, I’m about as pissed right now as Too Many Men on the Ice in ‘79.
Oh I’m pissed, not denying that. I’m just saying, it’s not like they have zero shot next year.
 

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So if Pastrnak’s shot at the beginning of OT is 3 cm to the right, everything is ok with the organization? We gotta except that this is a random game played with a 5 oz piece of rubber that bounces is so crazy ways.
No. It was a three game collapse. Against an opponent they were heavily favored to beat. I mean sure, if they had advanced we’d all still be on the train. But this was not bad puck luck. This was the exposure of a long time Achilles heal. That turned out to be fatal in this series.
 

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The sickest part of it all? Normally, after one of my favourite teams is eliminated, I just avoid sports programming for a few days. Yet here I am, watching the end of Kraken-Avs, because playoff hockey is amazing.
 

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I'm stuck rooting for the Kraken because I'm in Seattle and feel kind of tied to the team since I ready here when they were born and I've brought my kids to a few games.

I guess it's a decent consolation if I get to go to more playoff games.
 

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Blow up the Avs. Fire the coach. Fire the GM. Sell MacKinnon and Makar. They’re mentally weak. Will never win again.

<ducks>
 

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I’m never going to get over this
Watching the bruins lose followed by going to the Avs game and watching them lose in my beloved Ray Bourque sweater is arguably the most frustrating evening of my otherwise charmed life. Goddamnit. Goddamnit. Goddamnit
 

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No. It was a three game collapse. Against an opponent they were heavily favored to beat. I mean sure, if they had advanced we’d all still be on the train. But this was not bad puck luck. This was the exposure of a long time Achilles heal. That turned out to be fatal in this series.
So if it was a fatal flaw, it was going to get exposed eventually. Maybe ownership does a complete blow out of the management team, but it’s highly unlikely. And would they hire the right people anyway? Look they lucked into 2011. Got the hot goalie at the right time. That’s probably it happening twice in my lifetime. So unless they’re willing to tank in a year where there is a Crosby like talent, then they’re probably not winning again in my lifetime. Fuck, Washington only one once with Ovechkin.
 

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So if it was a fatal flaw, it was going to get exposed eventually. Maybe ownership does a complete blow out of the management team, but it’s highly unlikely. And would they hire the right people anyway? Look they lucked into 2011. Got the hot goalie at the right time. That’s probably it happening twice in my lifetime. So unless they’re willing to tank in a year where there is a Crosby like talent, then they’re probably not winning again in my lifetime. Fuck, Washington only one once with Ovechkin.
I would say pick your chin up a bit. This sucks for so many reasons, but don't doubt the future. Hockey is the truest team sport (not just about star power) that is also highly dependent on luck.

There are amazing highs in the B's future, just maybe not for the next few years.
 

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I’m still in shock. It started to go sideways after Marchands breakaway attempt at in G5, but I kept thinking they would right the ship. They were unrecognizable from the absolute wagon they were all year. They looked slow, they looked sloppy, they didn’t block shots. Their passing and D-zone clearances were disgraceful. They didn’t do any of the little things, and quite frankly they were outplayed the last three games. It’s astonishing, really. I’m just feeling sick right now.
 

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Swayman was real concerned with Tkachuk on the third goal. Took a swipe at him twice and the final one may have led to him being out of position and not being able to close that gap with the post quick enough.
 

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Blame it on me. I turned it off at 2-0. Kept my eye on the score the rest of the game. Flipped it back on with about 8 minutes to play because it was going to be too stressful following on the app to see if they could hold the lead. Should have kept the same strategy as 28-3 and not turned it on.

Sorry to the true die hards. This is a tough one to swallow. They’ll never have a better team. I dread telling my son when he wakes up.
 

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Montgomery's performance in this series goes down as the biggest playoff choke job by a coach or manager that I can recall seeing. He admitted that he didn't have the team prepared for the transition from regular season to playoff hockey, he let his goaltending coach ride Ullmark into the dirt (and then threw him under the bus), his lineup decisions seemed like he was just throwing shit at the wall, and he was completely incapable of focusing his team when it was clear to everyone that they were playing scared. Who give a damn if it 'looks bad' if he's fired, why should this guy be trusted to run the show if and when the B's make the playoffs next season?
 

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I still can't get Marchand's breakaway out of my head. Score there and we're on to Toronto where it would be even more agonizing to come up short(for me).

What an incredible regular season of hockey. Appointment viewing that I can never remember. Like when Pedro used to pitch. Except this was every game.

Such a shame it ended this way. But as others have said, this team has been doing this to us forever. Save 2011. Yet we get sucked back in because Hockey is such a great game. And the Bruins were a machine. Until they weren't.

I'm never watching them again. Until I do.
 

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I had to read some of the later pages in the thread to help process what happened last night:

Up 3-1 with 2 home games and they choke. I’m sorry for the diehards here. Just an epic, yet, predictable collapse. For shame.
I love playoff hockey. I LOVE it. I love it when the Bruins are prominently involved. But my life no longer has the time/space to watch the regular season. As shitty as I feel today, I feel for the fans that went on the amazing ride that was the regular season only to get bucked off like that. Looking forward to what our regulars have to say.

I can’t believe that’s the last time we’re going to see Bergy and Krejci.
I'm not ready, but I doubt I ever will be.

Oh and can we please bury the "protect the civic" line? In the playoffs, this team doesn't protect the civic very often in big games anymore.
Abso-fucking-lutely NOT. That cup run is one of the most fond sports memories of my life. I can rattle off the names of posters from that era and this place was a big part of my experience. I was actually thinking yesterday about how odd it is that "protect the civic" is such a recongizable rallying cry in here (where I do most of my Bruins banter) but outside of SoSH people would have no fucking clue what I'm talking about.

They looked like they had tired legs to me, though that is also their fault because endurance matters.
Still doesn't make much sense to me, as depth was such a key part of their success. 4 lines deep with 6 solid D men, and 2 goalies to boot.

Yikes, awful quotes.

I can’t put this on coaching. The theme of the 4 losses were inexplicably poor puck possession by our defensemen in our own end that led to so many goals for Florida. The amount of turnovers killed this team.

I’m sick to my stomach. This was as much fun watching the Bruins as I’ve ever had. My 2 year old son got into hockey this year. I did not want this to end. I feel worse than I did for the 18-1 pats game and the ‘19 SCF. I’ll be even sicker if this is indeed Bergeron’s last game. I honestly don’t know how to get over this. It’s going to be a long time.
I wanna hear more from our experts, but I kinda agree. It's not Monty's fault our players couldn't complete simple passes in G6 and G7 (possibly even going further back in the series). OTOH, perhaps Monty did shuffle lines ineffectively or deployed tactics that the team couldn't execute. Again, I'll leave that to the experts.

There’s a whole lot of stupid in here
You'll hafta be more specific. But that discussion is likely better in RMPS than here.

Bertuzzi was one of the few players on the team who actually looked fit for the moment throughout the series.

But the whole team was collectively such shit defensively in the last three games especially that everyone deserves a huge slice of blame.

Really sucks that it doesn’t even feel like they left everything out on the ice. Florida was willing to die for the win. Bruins weren’t. I don’t mean this in like a hypothetical “wanted it more” kind of way just literally that one team visibly worked a lot harder. Bruins thought they could regular season their way through it.
Agreed re Tuz. I saw the stat someone else posted about a poor +/- but the dude had a pulse and led the team in goals and points. Similarly I said I didn't see enough of Hall down the stretch of the game, and someone replied that he had been invisible. He was tied for the lead in goals (5) with Tuz, and was 2nd in points.

That explains a lot. The guy is my favorite hockey player of all time by a mile. But he was really bad in the games he played IMO.

I just don’t get how guys like McAvoy and Lindholm couldn’t even do like D to D passes without shitting themselves. Make it make sense.
Agreed

They choked. Pretty simple.
Maybe

I understand but this team has a bleak future regardless, and I absolutely do not trust the Neely/Sweeney team to navigate the next few years.

And Monty… Jesus when you make Grady Little look competent….

Total house clean. Start over and build properly.
I am not being obtuse. And I get people handle this differently. But, what the fuck do we need to “rebuild” exactly? You’re being a bit nuts with your reactions — I get why — but this team is in great shape going forward with this core.


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I was unimpressed with Zacha this series. Coyle turned up big. I have no doubt about Charlie Mac's quality but he wasn't his typical self this series. Hampus was bad. Marshy was good, JDB was good.

They choked. It’s OK to acknowledge it. This team is vastly better than the Panthers, and they spit the bit. The weight of expectations crushed them. It happens.
I’ll be the fly in the ointment. They have sneaky big problems, even with those guys.

Just filling in the roster next year is going to be a challenge. Between those contracts and the bonus overages for Bergeron and Krejci, they have ~$6 million to sign something like 6-7 forwards, plus resign Frederic and Swayman (or take what they’re given in arbitration). So at minimum, the pipe dream people had of resigning Bertuzzi needs to die, it almost literally can’t happen. So money has to come out somewhere. Maybe now that they’re down to the last year of it, you can get a taker for Mike Reilly, but he also spent the entire year in Providence. Forbort also has one left, but somehow this team thinks they’re better with him on the ice. Trade Carlo, and you trade a young stay-at-home defenceman that somehow was one of the team’s better skaters in this series. Grzelcyk is also on his last year, so maybe, but that’s still just $3.7m for next season. You’ll need every forward they still have signed, full stop. Ullmark’s NMC does turn into a 16-team NTC this summer, but is Swayman ready for 55+ games? Is Bussi ready to be an NHL backup with 35 games on his plate?
There’s a reason the organization looked at this season as the last shot to push all-in. With Pastrnak getting his big payday, they were going to lose that roster flexibility that made them monsters.
I think they were a team that played max effort every game that didn’t have another gear. Where as, Florida kind of sandbagged in the regular season because they went through this last year.
There might be something to this. I feel like we've said it before about the Bruins too.
 

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I love playoff hockey. I LOVE it. I love it when the Bruins are prominently involved. But my life no longer has the time/space to watch the regular season. As shitty as I feel today, I feel for the fans that went on the amazing ride that was the regular season only to get bucked off like that. Looking forward to what our regulars have to say.
It was an incredible team to watch. Sorry you missed out. I take a bit of solace in the fact that I got to experience the ride and not just the nut punch. Certainly makes it much harder, however. It always does.
 

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I'm surprised so many are blaming the coach. To me, the players need to own this one.
Some of it is that it is the spot you can hit on from the couch.

So yeah, I mean leaving everything else aside, with 60 seconds left to get to the next round and you have a lead and Marchand, Bergeron, Coyle, McAvoy and Orlov on the ice and you can't advance? It is a bit on the players.
 

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Yeah sure it will always come down to player execution, but it’s on the coach to put in players that will execute. And it’s his job to make tough decisions pre-game and in the moment.

Ullmark was an obvious liability after game 5 (and really during game 5) and Forbort/Foligno offered negatives for basically the entire series.
 

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Many an opportunity to crack through, the permanence remained. Now they were the 1, and against a young 8. The Panthers had their Game 6 moment.

But there was no 5-0. There was nothing. Just reflections of faces, memories, and times, blocked in, frozen in time, for however we remember all of this, seemingly forever.
That is a fantastic bit piece of writing, Jess.