General Celtics thread: 24-25 edition

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We need a GT for tonight, only fitting that it’s @Brand Name who starts it.
This is true, although @RSN Diaspora having a 10-game playoff win streak is legendary, on par with whoever-it-was who had the final streak for the 2004 Red Sox. I think his handle was Cabrera Era, although it's likely changed since then.

(@CaptainLaddie also acquits himself very well at the start of that Game 4 thread, while I'm digging through archives)
 

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This is true, although @RSN Diaspora having a 10-game playoff win streak is legendary, on par with whoever-it-was who had the final streak for the 2004 Red Sox. I think his handle was Cabrera Era, although it's likely changed since then.

(@CaptainLaddie also acquits himself very well at the start of that Game 4 thread, while I'm digging through archives)
Hey look at me being young and full of moxie.
 

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KOC predicts a repeat: https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-predictions-here-are-36-bold-takes-for-2024-25-including-one-for-every-team-172639855.html
I was more wrong about last year’s Celtics than any other champion in my 11 seasons covering the NBA. I doubted that Tatum and Brown could finally get them over the hump after so many close calls. I didn’t trust Joe Mazzulla to pull the right strings following such a shaky rookie season as head coach. And even after Boston bulldozed its way through the East, I chalked it up to a run of injured stars and predicted the Celtics would fall to Dallas in the Finals.

Well, I couldn’t have been more off. And now, I’m convinced they’re primed to repeat.
 

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Zach Lowe also predicted a repeat.
View: https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/1848695631952384216

HAPPY NBA OPENING NIGHT!!!!! Only prediction I'll share here: Celtics over Thunder in the 2025 NBA Finals, Boston breaks the NBA's no-repeat streak. I'll be watching, talking to/meeting with people around the league, traveling a bit to games -- the usual. Enjoy the games!
That sounds like he may indeed be lining something up for this year, which would be great for NBA fans!
 

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"I proved myself bad at analyzing basketball at every turn, repeatedly expressing extreme overconfidence in opinions that turned out very wrong.

But it's time to turn the page. Here are my new predictions!"
I'll give him partial credit for trying a mea culpa, most aren't even doing that. Still isn't getting to the root of the problem - KOC (like so many) penalized the Jays for winning at a young age. Tatum couldn't win a title as the best player at age 23 (something that only Tim Duncan has done in the last 40 years), so obviously it's never happening. That was the logic. Everyone knows the best players peak in their late 20s or early 30s, except for Tatum and Brown because of reasons.

On a related note, it's pretty clear SGA and the Thunder will never win a title. 8 months away from the finals and SGA is already older than Tatum was when the latter won his title, plus SGA has achieved levels of failure that Tatum could only dream of (losing a playoff series as a 1 seed). Only slightly more ridiculous than saying Tatum and Brown at 25 and 27 were never winning a title because they had come close too many times before.
 

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Zach Lowe also predicted a repeat.
View: https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/1848695631952384216

HAPPY NBA OPENING NIGHT!!!!! Only prediction I'll share here: Celtics over Thunder in the 2025 NBA Finals, Boston breaks the NBA's no-repeat streak. I'll be watching, talking to/meeting with people around the league, traveling a bit to games -- the usual. Enjoy the games!
He’s officially covered his ass for another season of all his weird criticisms of the Celtics being dominant yet somehow underwhelming.
 

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I wonder whether he has a non-compete, but it doesn't apply if he doesn't monetize. Will be interesting to follow.

He’s officially covered his ass for another season of all his weird criticisms of the Celtics being dominant yet somehow underwhelming.
It's such a bizarre standard to which no other team or players are held, including many that haven't come close to winning titles.
 

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I wonder whether he has a non-compete, but it doesn't apply if he doesn't monetize. Will be interesting to follow.


It's such a bizarre standard to which no other team or players are held, including many that haven't come close to winning titles.
I am a huge Lowe fan, but the disconnect between his Tatum commentary and his praising of Embiid is simply inexplicable. Like, 19 year old Jayson Tatum proved more as an NBA playoff player his rookie year than Embiid has his entire career, yet people somehow are more critical of Tatum's playoffs....
 

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It's so weird because, like a lot of smart media members, Zach Lowe is really good at analyzing non-star players through the lens of whether and to what extent that player impacts winning. That includes the obvious things like scoring efficiency and defense, but also gravity and spacing, play off the ball including screening, cutting, etc., decision making, passing.....

Those things all matter for the stars, too! But it's like the model breaks for some of these people when someone comes along who can average 30 and make it look easy.

And that's not to disparage Embiid, specifically. I think it's his health and the roster around him have been the biggest reasons he hasn't had more playoff success, but availability and conditioning matter.

(It is intended to specifically disparage Luka Doncic, though. In the past 25 years, has anyone won a title when their clear best player tilts so far in terms of value towards scoring [not even offense, necessarily, though he is a good passer] at the expense of defense?)
 

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(It is intended to specifically disparage Luka Doncic, though. In the past 25 years, has anyone won a title when their clear best player tilts so far in terms of value towards scoring [not even offense, necessarily, though he is a good passer] at the expense of defense?)
2022 Warriors?
 

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The couple podcasts I heard from Lowe before he left ESPN, he was pretty upfront about not trusting Embiid any longer.
 

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The couple podcasts I heard from Lowe before he left ESPN, he was pretty upfront about not trusting Embiid any longer.
Yes, finally. Though even in those he was STILL saying "there will be a playoff where Embiid takes over"
 

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The couple podcasts I heard from Lowe before he left ESPN, he was pretty upfront about not trusting Embiid any longer.
And yet at the same time he was saying there was no way Tatum could be considered top 5 because there was a top 5 set in stone (and apparently that top 5 still includes Embiid). Lowe definitely mastered the art of talking out of both sides of his mouth.
 

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This is true, although @RSN Diaspora having a 10-game playoff win streak is legendary, on par with whoever-it-was who had the final streak for the 2004 Red Sox. I think his handle was Cabrera Era, although it's likely changed since then.

(@CaptainLaddie also acquits himself very well at the start of that Game 4 thread, while I'm digging through archives)
I think we all know that I was the real MVP of the playoffs.
 

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And yet at the same time he was saying there was no way Tatum could be considered top 5 because there was a top 5 set in stone (and apparently that top 5 still includes Embiid). Lowe definitely mastered the art of talking out of both sides of his mouth.
I remember these pods pretty vividly.

He said that Embiid was definitely a top 5 player. The next pod he said that he got pushback from people in and around the league that Embiid was definitely a top 5 player because “availability is the best ability”.

Not sure where Lowe himself actually landed (and yes, Lowe has always been very strange about his Celtic coverage….especially during the Finals where he was acting like the series was still close when it was 3-0 and clearly over)
 

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Did the Celtics hire any new assistants or did they just promote from within to replace Charles Lee?
 

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Gotta stay healthy, but as this season goes on they may enter the conversation as the greatest Boston team ever in any sport.
Offense feels like a power play right now. I have heard the older heads talk about that from '86. Pretty fun to see it! (I was 4 in '86.)
 

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It sort of reads to me like he's getting severance money contingent on not reporting on basketball.
Yup, looks a lot like that.

Based on his tweeting last night, he seems to think that he might have a loophole, which is that he can talk about basketball as long as he's not getting paid.
 

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Nice point from Shaughnessy:

Cousy played with John Havlicek, who played with Cedric Maxwell, who played with Kevin McHale, who played with Rick Fox, who played with Antoine Walker, who played with Paul Pierce, who played with Avery Bradley, who played with Jaylen Brown.
 

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Shaugnessy’s path is probably the shortest n- path from Cousy to the Jays if we’re sticking with Celtics teammates. Maybe you could beat it by taking advantage of the Cousy comeback tour with the Royals.
 

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Opening night last night. Raise banner #18. Destroy the top contender in the East. Tatum goes OFF.

Not a peep on my ESPN page right now.

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Not a headline. Not a side column story. Nothing on the front page at all. For the defending NBA champs. LOL
 

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After last night it might be time to change the title to It’s Raining Treys, Hallelujah
 

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