Fists of Millennial Fury!
- Jul 22, 2009
People really felt like Lewis lacked burst last year? I thought he looked like a freakin' Madden player when he was on the field.
I read yesterday that such a contract cannot be restructured for a year, but even after half an hour of searching I cannot find the source again.Now there may be another provision somewhere in the CBA that precludes a club from restructuring a contract very quickly after its formation to include worse terms. I'm not sure, but I think I've heard that. In that case, they'd probably need to add new value somehow but that could be done in a way that gives cap relief I think.
Yeah for some reason I was thinking that they had some sort of option on him and still technically had him under their control. Thanks for the correction.Minor correction: Floyd is gone at the moment as he is a free-agent.
I do agree with your overall point though, but it's gonna be quite a roster crunch when they need to get down to 53 players.
My knowledge of this may be out of date, but it used to be a TD counted as a first down if it wasn't an "and goal" situation. So a TD run from the 4 yard line would also be a first down if it was on "2nd and 3" for instance. But a TD run from the 4 wouldn't be a first down if it was "2nd and goal". I don't know if that's changed.TDs are counted as first downs, I believe
I agree. Also, can we assume that signing Gillislee has little to do with Lewis? Burkhead's contract only runs for 2017. BB would need all four + a draft RB when camp starts.Lewis still showed some flashes. In particular he had a run against Atlanta on the first TD drive where he bounced outside, even backtracked a bit, and flat out beat the CB to the edge
There are two. TD Mike/Touchdown Mike and Dizzy, per various Bills forums.Gillislee already has a nickname (courtesy of his Bills teammates):
ETA: Video of Rexy yelling "Touchdown Mike" repeatedly: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap3000000724527/Sound-FX-Rex-Ryan-Touchdown-Mike
I'm fairly sure this is true for franchised players, so maybe it's also the same for RFAs.
Not sure what it was in the past, but all passing/rushing TDs are counted as first downs now:My knowledge of this may be out of date, but it used to be a TD counted as a first down if it wasn't an "and goal" situation. So a TD run from the 4 yard line would also be a first down if it was on "2nd and 3" for instance. But a TD run from the 4 wouldn't be a first down if it was "2nd and goal". I don't know if that's changed.
(See page 7 of the NFL guide for statisticians)A first down shall be credited on each touchdown resulting from rushes or forward passes, regardless of the distance covered.
They just resigned Bolden last week, they're not releasing him. And he's as much of a RB as Slater is a WR.I know it's been said, but my goodness, if Gillislee ends up coming to the Pats, this will be as loaded a skill position group the Patriots have ever had:
QB - Brady and JG, who absolutely is starter material in the NFL, plus a useful 3rd QB in Brissett
RB - Gillislee, Burkhead, White, Lewis, Foster, Bolden, Develin
WR - Edelman, Hogan, Cooks, Amendola, Mitchell, Floyd, Lucien, Slater
TE - Gronkowski, Allen, Lengel, Housler
Obviously they cannot keep ALL those guys. I think Lucien and Floyd likely go. JG still could be traded. Don't know if Housler sticks. And one or two of the RBs (probably Foster/Bolden) probably go. But my goodness there is skill position talent oozing out of Foxboro right now. If the OL can play up to its capabilities, this offense could score 40+ a game, especially given that they actually have a really good defense too.
I love that they're not just tremendously skilled; they're DEEP. So that roster right there could suffer injuries to any number of quality players, and there'd STILL be quality players to step in. Gillislee goes down? Ok, there's Burkhead. He goes down? Ok, there's still White and Lewis. Gronk goes down? Ok, we've seen they can win without him as long as they have a good TE backing him up, which they do in Allen. Edelman and Hogan can't go? Ok, Cooks and Amendola and Mitchell step up. Heck, even if Brady went down, with this group, I think JG could get them to the AFCCG at least.
Of course, I can't resist a CBA question.I'm fairly sure this is true for franchised players, so maybe it's also the same for RFAs.
I can definitely see reasons why the original club shouldn't be able to exercise a ROFR and then restructure. You could imagine shenanigans. Especially since I think the rule is designed, or at least can be used, to allow offering teams to take into account the opponents' salary cap in structuring the offer. On the other side, there are even more grounds for shenanigans. For example, offering the guy a contract that hammers a team on salary cap to make it hard to match but then restructuring for cap relief. Though, I guess there's a limit to what you can do there since just signing the offer immediately puts the money on your cap. Still, the bottom line, is that I bet you're right there's a rule, I just can't find it.
I mean, sure, maybe, but everything Edelman has done/said make me think he'll do whatever he can to stay with Brady, including a team friendly deal. It doesn't seem like an act to me, the amount he loves playing with TB12.Wow, I hadn't realized this was already a contract year for Jules. At his age and given his position, it may be his last season in a Pats uniform, no?
Agreed, and beyond that what I think any competent football exec would say to Pegulas is that they need to focus on getting the right roster, not the media narratives about Belichick. This decision has nothing to do with Hogan, and their team is at a very different place in the growth/competition curve than the Pats, and their roster (and RB depth chart) are completely different as well.I get that the Hogan narrative is a thing, but it would be pretty terrible of the Bills to let it effect their judgment and I think the swindling is being overblown by the media. Hogan is a nice piece, but complimentary deep threat WR plays better in an elite offense QBd by GOAT than he did in Buffalo isn't exactly man bites dog stuff, this wasnt exactly Ortiz to the Sox.
I'm not sure. If a slot receiver can get another big deal elsewhere at 32, which would almost certainly be the last big payday of his life, something tells me bromance may find its way to the back-burner.I mean, sure, maybe, but everything Edelman has done/said make me think he'll do whatever he can to stay with Brady, including a team friendly deal. It doesn't seem like an act to me, the amount he loves playing with TB12.
Agree - drafting a runningback seems to be a waste of resources to me. Runningbacks tend to be most valuable their first couple of years, and this guy wouldn't be playing, and the pats have a ton of RB talent on the roster.They have Gillislee and White under contract for 2018 already so I dont think this has to be a super high priority.
That's just awesome. And to think we were all worried about that trade hurting this team.Mike Reiss ESPN Staff Writer
One follow-up note on the Patriots surrendering a fifth-round draft pick to Buffalo for restricted free-agent running back Mike Gillislee: The selection going to Buffalo is No. 163 overall, which the Patriots had acquired from Denver last year in a trade for TE AJ Derby. So this is basically a Gillislee for Derby trade.