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I have an Amazon Fire TV 4k Stick (the most recent version) and a brand new Samsung 4k TV. Streaming Netflix shows in HDR is a debacle, the color is completely washed out and the screen is dimmed. You can even see the screen literally dim when you start a HDR show, which is especially infuriating. There is no fix on the Fire TV stick, as you can't turn off HDR in Netflix or on the TV and even if you fiddle with the Fire TV stick settings,(which I did aggressively) you still can't force shut HDR. Watching the same shows on my Xbox One X with the HDR turned off fixes the problem. But even on the Xbox, if HDR is turned on, the picture is washed out and all the color is drained. At least I can turn it off on the Xbox. Maybe it's a Samsung TV issue, but that shouldn't matter. The picture sucks in what is supposed to be the best format.

I don't need a solution, I'm not even asking for one because I searched and it doesn't seem like there is one, (there are a lot of threads on the internet about how HDR sucks) but I just wanted to start a thread to say HDR absolutely sucks. It's supposed to be a great, a life changing format. And it doesn't work and it ruins the picture and completely washes out the color and dims the screen. (other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?)

That said, if anyone has any ideas on how to fix this or if I'm doing something wrong, maybe this is a good thread to have.
 

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The dimming issue happens on my 4K Fire Stick as well, except my set is a Vizio. It's maddening.

I've resigned to watching anything in 4K / HDR / Dolby Vision on the TV's native apps or using my PS4 Pro instead.
 

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I have an Amazon Fire TV 4k Stick (the most recent version) and a brand new Samsung 4k TV. Streaming Netflix shows in HDR is a debacle, the color is completely washed out and the screen is dimmed. You can even see the screen literally dim when you start a HDR show, which is especially infuriating. There is no fix on the Fire TV stick, as you can't turn off HDR in Netflix or on the TV and even if you fiddle with the Fire TV stick settings,(which I did aggressively) you still can't force shut HDR. Watching the same shows on my Xbox One X with the HDR turned off fixes the problem. But even on the Xbox, if HDR is turned on, the picture is washed out and all the color is drained. At least I can turn it off on the Xbox. Maybe it's a Samsung TV issue, but that shouldn't matter. The picture sucks in what is supposed to be the best format.

I don't need a solution, I'm not even asking for one because I searched and it doesn't seem like there is one, (there are a lot of threads on the internet about how HDR sucks) but I just wanted to start a thread to say HDR absolutely sucks. It's supposed to be a great, a life changing format. And it doesn't work and it ruins the picture and completely washes out the color and dims the screen. (other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?)

That said, if anyone has any ideas on how to fix this or if I'm doing something wrong, maybe this is a good thread to have.
it sounds like your TV doesn’t support HDR.
 

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it sounds like your TV doesn’t support HDR.
It does. It's a QLED with HDR 10+. It has it.

But this is a known issue with Netflix and HDR for many users. And it seems like a lot of Samsung users are also having this trouble. Maybe because the format isn't standard. I don't know, the Xbox is great, it works and looks good and HDR isn't there yet.
 

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It does. It's a QLED with HDR 10+. It has it.

But this is a known issue with Netflix and HDR for many users. And it seems like a lot of Samsung users are also having this trouble. Maybe because the format isn't standard. I don't know, the Xbox is great, it works and looks good and HDR isn't there yet.
ah, ok, sorry, what you described is exactly what HDR looks like on a non-HDR monitor.

Can you use Netflix thru the TV instead of the Firestick or XBox? Any difference?
 

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ah, ok, sorry, what you described is exactly what HDR looks like on a non-HDR monitor.

Can you use Netflix thru the TV instead of the Firestick or XBox? Any difference?
Yes. I noted in the original post that my fix is to turn off HDR on the Xbox and the colors bloom and the picture isn't dimmed and it looks great. It's crazy to me Samsung, Netflix, and the Fire TV stick all don't give you the option to turn off HDR. That's a little surprising. At least give people the chance if something isn't working.

This clearly isn't just a johnmd20 problem, because internet forums are all over this issue.
 

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I'll second that. My LG OLED looks great with HDR content, not too dark or washed out.
I do not see a lot of people with OLED's complaining about this issue on the internet. So you're in good hands. I have seen people complain about Sony, Samsung, and Vizio mostly.
 

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The dimming issue happens on my 4K Fire Stick as well, except my set is a Vizio. It's maddening.

I've resigned to watching anything in 4K / HDR / Dolby Vision on the TV's native apps or using my PS4 Pro instead.
Hello friend. Join me in my frustration. It is absolutely maddening. Watching the bright screen go dim the second an HDR video starts is extremely frustrating. But I have a fix and it's not bad at all. I have an Xbox Remote, too.
 

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Yes. I noted in the original post that my fix is to turn off HDR on the Xbox and the colors bloom and the picture isn't dimmed and it looks great. It's crazy to me Samsung, Netflix, and the Fire TV stick all don't give you the option to turn off HDR.
Right, I meant can you play the Netflix app directly through the Samsung TV, and NOT the Xbox or Firestick. Sorry, just rating to troubleshoot, I’ll stop.
 

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Right, I meant can you play the Netflix app directly through the Samsung TV, and NOT the Xbox or Firestick. Sorry, just rating to troubleshoot, I’ll stop.
I generally don't use apps on the TV because I find the UI clunky and lame. But I could try the Samsung Netflix app for a goof to see what happens, I might do that tomorrow. This might be as simple as Netflix and Amazon not playing nice together, with Samsung also not really playing nice, either.
 

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Another LG OLED here. HDR and Dolby Vision work beautifully on every device I’ve tested. HDR programming that is downconverted for whatever reason is dark and washed as you described. That usually happens with Plex when it thinks I don’t have the bandwidth for something. If I force-play original quality, HDR snaps back on and all is well.
 

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It does. It's a QLED with HDR 10+. It has it.

But this is a known issue with Netflix and HDR for many users. And it seems like a lot of Samsung users are also having this trouble. Maybe because the format isn't standard. I don't know, the Xbox is great, it works and looks good and HDR isn't there yet.
The AVS forum link I posted says for QLED sets to put the contrast enhancer on low for HDR. I have no idea how one does that but probably worth a shot.
 

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HDR looks awesome on my LG OLED as well. The screen gets visibly brighter when HDR or Dolby Vision kick on. HDR works with built-in Netflix and Amazon, a Roku and a 4K Blu-ray player.

What you describe sounds like something doing incorrect tone mapping from HDR to SDR. When you turn HDR off on the Xbox, it's streaming the SDR encoded video and not doing tone mapping.
 

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HDR and DolbyVision, along with most calibration settings are dark. You absolutely need to calibrate your TV to your liking to be able to enjoy that content.

I swear on my life I'll never understand how half of the internet pretends to watch their TV at the settings posted on AVForums and other calibration sites. I have the new LG CX and one of the big features was this year's "Filmmaker Mode." I dare anyone to try to watch anything in that mode without wondering why everything is dim.
 

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HDR and DolbyVision, along with most calibration settings are dark. You absolutely need to calibrate your TV to your liking to be able to enjoy that content.

I swear on my life I'll never understand how half of the internet pretends to watch their TV at the settings posted on AVForums and other calibration sites. I have the new LG CX and one of the big features was this year's "Filmmaker Mode." I dare anyone to try to watch anything in that mode without wondering why everything is dim.
I don’t think I’ve tried that one, have the same TV.

I did monkey with settings and mess up HDR in the first week of owning this set and fixed with a factory reset, maybe give that a shot?
 

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I don’t think I’ve tried that one, have the same TV.

I did monkey with settings and mess up HDR in the first week of owning this set and fixed with a factory reset, maybe give that a shot?
Oh, my TV is very well calibrated right now and I love it. Best set I've ever owned and the HDR/Dolby looks unbelievable. I'm just saying that out of the box its extremely dark.

I also am one of those people who hates watching on warm settings. My CX is on normal.
 

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HDR and DolbyVision, along with most calibration settings are dark. You absolutely need to calibrate your TV to your liking to be able to enjoy that content.

I swear on my life I'll never understand how half of the internet pretends to watch their TV at the settings posted on AVForums and other calibration sites. I have the new LG CX and one of the big features was this year's "Filmmaker Mode." I dare anyone to try to watch anything in that mode without wondering why everything is dim.
We got a new TCL QLED on Memorial Day. What would you recommend using to calibrate it? I used the AVForums recommendations...
 

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Wait, I'm in the market for a new TV (well maybe until Black Friday), but want to avoid any nonsense hassles like this. Anything specific to avoid? I'll run everything through an Apple TV 4K and my DirecTV (at the moment non-4K client) fwiw.

This problem sounds like an absolute nightmare.
 

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Wait, I'm in the market for a new TV (well maybe until Black Friday), but want to avoid any nonsense hassles like this. Anything specific to avoid? I'll run everything through an Apple TV 4K and my DirecTV (at the moment non-4K client) fwiw.

This problem sounds like an absolute nightmare.
Your best bet is likely to be on Amazon Prime Day. Other outlets have great sales that day as well. I got my LG OLED 55" from NewEgg last year on it on a smoking deal. I love the LG OLED and do not miss anything about my plasma that I used to love.
 

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Wait, I'm in the market for a new TV (well maybe until Black Friday), but want to avoid any nonsense hassles like this. Anything specific to avoid? I'll run everything through an Apple TV 4K and my DirecTV (at the moment non-4K client) fwiw.

This problem sounds like an absolute nightmare.
Not specifically related to HDR, but I did a fair amount of research before my new TV purchase last year, and I only learned of the modern "panel lottery" after I bought something.

My Vizio (PX65) has some very faint vertical banding that I only notice when watching specific things (hockey, mostly), and I saw cases that were way worse than mine when looking into the problem. People with the same issue who exchanged their sets kept referring to winning or losing the panel lottery with regard to how bad the banding was on their exchanged sets. I don't know how the lottery odds change between manufacturers, technology, size, etc, but I feel pretty lucky with my results given the lack of info I had about it beforehand.
 

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We got a new TCL QLED on Memorial Day. What would you recommend using to calibrate it? I used the AVForums recommendations...
I think to answer this question you have to understand that those forums are an incredible resource but the settings you get from there tend to be for films. IF they work for you and you enjoy watching your TV with them, you don't need to do anything.

If you put them on and they look dark or too yellow, then the only right answer to your question is to adjust the settings. Do you like your white balance cool (bluish tint), normal (neutral tint), or warm (yellow tint)? Professional calibrations almost always go Warm 1 or Warm 2 which to me, makes all whites look yellow and dull. To you, you might like it. After that, gamma is the next setting that will impact both how bright your picture look and how saturated the colors might be. Lower gamma = darker/more color, higher gamma = brighter/less saturation. Like my white balance, I like gamma somewhere neutral. After that, I would go right to contrast and color. Sharpness is mostly negligible for regular content so I keep that around 0. Once you get your contrast and color around where you like it, check your brightness and maybe lower it a few notches. In my experience, brightness can help wash out colors or really make them pop. High brightness settings dulls your picture, no matter what content you have. Of course, that's not the same as panel brightness which refers to how much light comes through your screen. You may have a setting that refers to peak brightness or LCD brightness (for OLEDs, its different). I tend to keep that on a high setting and adjust around it.

Short version - Forum settings are good to get you started but those settings tend to not be great for every day viewing. For me, they've always been useless for how I like to watch TV.
 

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Wait, I'm in the market for a new TV (well maybe until Black Friday), but want to avoid any nonsense hassles like this. Anything specific to avoid? I'll run everything through an Apple TV 4K and my DirecTV (at the moment non-4K client) fwiw.

This problem sounds like an absolute nightmare.
As mentioned above, the biggest issue you have to worry about is panel lottery, not HDR or Dolby Vision darkness. OLEDs are the best TVs you're going to buy, period, and they still have banding issues. LCD (e.g. QLED) panels have DSE AND vertical banding. My second TV is a Sony x950b which was over $4k and when I tell you that the dirty screen effect is horrible, I would take a crappy TV off craigslist instead of watching hockey on that TV.

This is also why I don't buy from online retailers anymore, because the risk of getting a bad panel is so high that most online retailers don't accept returns for manufacturer issues. You have to take a bad panel issue up with your manufacturer who will run you through a series of tests and skeptical questions before sending you a new one 30 days later that might have the same issue (mine did). Buy at a local store, watch for about 20 hours, put hockey on, throw a 5% grey test panel on from youtube, and if you have no issue you're gold. If you do, take it right back for an exchange.

The newer OLEDs seem to have far fewer instances of banding and I can say that mine looks perfect to me, even on the testing panels. Family member who has a C9 has bad banding but its only visible during test panels. So, YMMV.
 

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We got a new TCL QLED on Memorial Day. What would you recommend using to calibrate it? I used the AVForums recommendations...
Not sure what model you have but I used their app called IPQ calibration on Android. Lots of negative reviews, as apparently it only works on Pixels and iPhones, but I have a Pixel and it seemed to work well. Picture looks great to me. HDR modes all work fine.

One of the problems with simply cutting and pasting someone else's calibration settings is that every TV is a little different. Still may give you a better picture than default settings, and they aren't a bad place to use as a starting point, but it isn't going to necessarily be the best settings for your individual TV.

Just in general, probably worth mentioning that HDR isn't a binary "yes/no" thing. Some TVs and monitors claim to support HDR, while in reality they barely get bright enough for it to actually be a viable feature. Not sure if that's @johnmd20's problem here or not, but worth mentioning. The HDR on my computer monitor is so terrible that I never use it, for one example, but I knew that before I bought it. I don't have the same issue on my TCL TV (though I do crank the brightness setting from "normal" two clicks up to "brightest" whenever watching something in HDR).
 

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I think to answer this question you have to understand that those forums are an incredible resource but the settings you get from there tend to be for films. IF they work for you and you enjoy watching your TV with them, you don't need to do anything.

If you put them on and they look dark or too yellow, then the only right answer to your question is to adjust the settings. Do you like your white balance cool (bluish tint), normal (neutral tint), or warm (yellow tint)? Professional calibrations almost always go Warm 1 or Warm 2 which to me, makes all whites look yellow and dull. To you, you might like it. After that, gamma is the next setting that will impact both how bright your picture look and how saturated the colors might be. Lower gamma = darker/more color, higher gamma = brighter/less saturation. Like my white balance, I like gamma somewhere neutral. After that, I would go right to contrast and color. Sharpness is mostly negligible for regular content so I keep that around 0. Once you get your contrast and color around where you like it, check your brightness and maybe lower it a few notches. In my experience, brightness can help wash out colors or really make them pop. High brightness settings dulls your picture, no matter what content you have. Of course, that's not the same as panel brightness which refers to how much light comes through your screen. You may have a setting that refers to peak brightness or LCD brightness (for OLEDs, its different). I tend to keep that on a high setting and adjust around it.

Short version - Forum settings are good to get you started but those settings tend to not be great for every day viewing. For me, they've always been useless for how I like to watch TV.
Thank you. I'll play around with the settings later this week if I get time.
 

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Not sure what model you have but I used their app called IPQ calibration on Android. Lots of negative reviews, as apparently it only works on Pixels and iPhones, but I have a Pixel and it seemed to work well. Picture looks great to me. HDR modes all work fine.

One of the problems with simply cutting and pasting someone else's calibration settings is that every TV is a little different. Still may give you a better picture than default settings, and they aren't a bad place to use as a starting point, but it isn't going to necessarily be the best settings for your individual TV.

Just in general, probably worth mentioning that HDR isn't a binary "yes/no" thing. Some TVs and monitors claim to support HDR, while in reality they barely get bright enough for it to actually be a viable feature. Not sure if that's @johnmd20's problem here or not, but worth mentioning. The HDR on my computer monitor is so terrible that I never use it, for one example, but I knew that before I bought it. I don't have the same issue on my TCL TV (though I do crank the brightness setting from "normal" two clicks up to "brightest" whenever watching something in HDR).
We got the 65R625. I'll give that app a try with my iPhone 11 and see how it works.
 

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As mentioned above, the biggest issue you have to worry about is panel lottery, not HDR or Dolby Vision darkness. OLEDs are the best TVs you're going to buy, period, and they still have banding issues. LCD (e.g. QLED) panels have DSE AND vertical banding. My second TV is a Sony x950b which was over $4k and when I tell you that the dirty screen effect is horrible, I would take a crappy TV off craigslist instead of watching hockey on that TV.

This is also why I don't buy from online retailers anymore, because the risk of getting a bad panel is so high that most online retailers don't accept returns for manufacturer issues. You have to take a bad panel issue up with your manufacturer who will run you through a series of tests and skeptical questions before sending you a new one 30 days later that might have the same issue (mine did). Buy at a local store, watch for about 20 hours, put hockey on, throw a 5% grey test panel on from youtube, and if you have no issue you're gold. If you do, take it right back for an exchange.

The newer OLEDs seem to have far fewer instances of banding and I can say that mine looks perfect to me, even on the testing panels. Family member who has a C9 has bad banding but its only visible during test panels. So, YMMV.
Wow, thanks. I'm pretty set on OLED and not QLED or whatever fake LED thing they're marketing. Likely LG, I'd like a 65" but under $2500 if possible but also want future-proof with HDMI 2.1 built-in. I am in no rush, just tired of my 47" LG LED from 2010 (that has been a champ, fwiw).

I think Costco or Best Buy is my best bet, too. I'm skeptical of any large purchase like a TV online, just for a variety of reasons.
 

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Wow, thanks. I'm pretty set on OLED and not QLED or whatever fake LED thing they're marketing. Likely LG, I'd like a 65" but under $2500 if possible but also want future-proof with HDMI 2.1 built-in. I am in no rush, just tired of my 47" LG LED from 2010 (that has been a champ, fwiw).

I think Costco or Best Buy is my best bet, too. I'm skeptical of any large purchase like a TV online, just for a variety of reasons.
Black Friday most likely. I got the 65" C9 last year for $2,400CDN
You should be able to do at least the same on the CX this year
 

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Wow, thanks. I'm pretty set on OLED and not QLED or whatever fake LED thing they're marketing. Likely LG, I'd like a 65" but under $2500 if possible but also want future-proof with HDMI 2.1 built-in. I am in no rush, just tired of my 47" LG LED from 2010 (that has been a champ, fwiw).

I think Costco or Best Buy is my best bet, too. I'm skeptical of any large purchase like a TV online, just for a variety of reasons.
Well you can do that today with the OLED65CXPUA. Best Buy has it for $2399 now. I know you probably want a better price, but it has everything you want including HDMI 2.1

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-65-class-cx-series-4k-uhd-tv-smart-oled-with-hdr/6401850.p?skuId=6401850
I have a B8 (2018 generation) and the lower end and the TV is amazing. I can't imagine you wouldn't be thrilled with a C9 or CX.
 

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Wow, thanks. I'm pretty set on OLED and not QLED or whatever fake LED thing they're marketing. Likely LG, I'd like a 65" but under $2500 if possible but also want future-proof with HDMI 2.1 built-in. I am in no rush, just tired of my 47" LG LED from 2010 (that has been a champ, fwiw).

I think Costco or Best Buy is my best bet, too. I'm skeptical of any large purchase like a TV online, just for a variety of reasons.
You will almost certainly be able to find an LG 65" for under $2500 around BF (or earlier if you prefer). Last BF the B9/C9/E9 65" 2019 models were around $1700/$1900/$2100 (might be a little high or low, but around there) at places Best Buy will price match and Costco had the 65" C9 for $1900 back in April. You can also search/check for open-box models at Best Buy if it doesn't need to be 100% new. I lucked out and found a 65" E8 for $1200 back in June 2019.

Note: if anyone does opt to check for open-box models, please make sure you thoroughly check the unit for burn-in/image retention. I didn't notice any on the unit I found but still purchased the extended warranty offered by BB because it covered burn-in.
 
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Researched the hell out of this yesterday and I'm set of the LG CX unless I find some crazy deal on the C9 that makes it like $800+ cheaper.
Can't lose with either but there are a handful of experts (on AVSForums) saying that CX panel quality control is much better than previous years, thus its much rarer to find tinting or banding to a noticeable degree. I had PC Richards offer me the C9 65 for 1850 and the CX for 2200. I went with the CX because I wanted the better upscaling. Worked out well in my case.
 

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Can't lose with either but there are a handful of experts (on AVSForums) saying that CX panel quality control is much better than previous years, thus its much rarer to find tinting or banding to a noticeable degree. I had PC Richards offer me the C9 65 for 1850 and the CX for 2200. I went with the CX because I wanted the better upscaling. Worked out well in my case.
Mind snapping a photo of your TV setup? Since I'm going to have to get a new shelf or mount it, need inspiration of any kind.
 

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Mind snapping a photo of your TV setup? Since I'm going to have to get a new shelf or mount it, need inspiration of any kind.
Sure, but I'm moving in a month so its just on a regular TV stand. Will snap it later. I can list out some settings when you're ready too. My settings have changed probably 5x as I've adjusted to the panel and the pixels have warmed up
 

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Best Buy just dropped my CX, seeing this thread pop up after I ordered it was concerning at first but I think it will be fine. Won't have a second set of hands until tonight to unbox and attach the stand, I saw instructions on using the foam in the box as a support while attaching the stand so might go that route.

Swapping my receiver also, so lot of setup to do in the coming days. Previous receiver (Denon x5200w) didn't get the same HDMI update as the 3200 and 7200 (lame) so it doesn't do any of the HDR/VRR modes.
 

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Mind snapping a photo of your TV setup? Since I'm going to have to get a new shelf or mount it, need inspiration of any kind.
FYI, I have this mount - I needed something ultra beefy for my ancient Pioneer plasma (125 pound TV!) but have my Sony A8G on it now. The contractor who installed the mount originally into the wall said something like "holy shit this thing is solid" and when the second guy came to mount the Sony onto it a couple years later, he knew exactly what the mount was right away and said "this thing is a beast."

You have to cut an opening in the drywall in between the studs (and then a brush plate down lower for another A/V cable exit if you want the cleanest install look) but it's rock solid, pushes back all the way to flush, and can articulate/swivel quite far out.
 

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FYI, I have this mount - I needed something ultra beefy for my ancient Pioneer plasma (125 pound TV!) but have my Sony A8G on it now. The contractor who installed the mount originally into the wall said something like "holy shit this thing is solid" and when the second guy came to mount the Sony onto it a couple years later, he knew exactly what the mount was right away and said "this thing is a beast."

You have to cut an opening in the drywall in between the studs (and then a brush plate down lower for another A/V cable exit if you want the cleanest install look) but it's rock solid, pushes back all the way to flush, and can articulate/swivel quite far out.
Thanks! I’d have to mount in an external wall and I’m just not a huge fan - I understand why so many prefer it though.
 

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Best Buy just dropped my CX, seeing this thread pop up after I ordered it was concerning at first but I think it will be fine. Won't have a second set of hands until tonight to unbox and attach the stand, I saw instructions on using the foam in the box as a support while attaching the stand so might go that route.

Swapping my receiver also, so lot of setup to do in the coming days. Previous receiver (Denon x5200w) didn't get the same HDMI update as the 3200 and 7200 (lame) so it doesn't do any of the HDR/VRR modes.
I know we're getting a bit off topic here, but when the wife and I were unboxing and then trying to mount on the old wall mount (was for a plasma initially), we forgot to adjust some of the behind the TV stuff (power bar mainly), so it went up and down a few times. I was super concerned watching the panel flex, moving it up and down a few times, setting it on it's screen, but it made it through like a champ

I just watched this video from JerryRigEverything on YouTube the other day, where he's doing the 77" inch LG OLED TV and watch the flex when they pick it up (I put the video right at the time mark for that)
View: https://youtu.be/bfdYmYc3kTo?t=181

The whole video is good, showing the mount install, but I know my 65" flexed at least that much when we were picking it up and moving it constantly
 

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Ended up doing Cinema Home for the HDR content, it felt like blacks were crushed on Cinema. Most of the post processing on Off or Low.

Does anyone use the AI picture thing?
 

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I upgraded my Netflix plan to the one that does 4K/Dolby Vision/Atmos. And I've since downgraded. The LG TV app has random sound drop-outs every few minutes for a few seconds, and the Xbox One app has weird artifacting in the Atmos output. Other apps (Disney+ on both platforms) work perfectly, so seems to be a Netflix thing from what I can find. I'd rather have a stable stream.

The HDR mode is pretty killer on games. Have played some Borderlands 3 and Forza Motorsport 7 with it on.