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We worried all year about Dallas and its pick, which is number 16. Boston's home-grown pick is 23. This is the place to contemplate who the Celtics might pick up, assuming that the picks aren't traded away. In a different year, having nos. 16 and 23 would be something to be excited about. Why not now?

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we already have hunter, rozier, young & mickey who are all young guys that essentially contribute zero productive minutes & take up roster spots. it is very unlikely we will simply stand pat & add 3 more likely unproductive young guys with our 1sts (plus 5 2nd round picks this year!).

i don't follow international guys that much, but it's possible we get some draft-and-stash guys like Bender (with our #3) and some combo of Korkmaz, Zubac, Zizic with the others.

Or we could try to package 16, 23 & 31 move up a few spots to take a guy like Ellenson.

Or maybe Ainge / Stephens throw in the towel on Mickey & Young to free up a couple spots because they like the BPA at 16 & 23.

There are so many possibilities, it is really tough to predict what might happen.
 

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I think they like Mickey; Young, not so much. Wouldn't surprise me to take Zizic at 23, plus some more draft-and-stash prospects in the 2nd round.
 

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I think they like Mickey; Young, not so much. Wouldn't surprise me to take Zizic at 23, plus some more draft-and-stash prospects in the 2nd round.
I think this makes sense. If they go with Bender at 3 I think you'd see someone ready to contribute like Valentine at 16. If they go Murray/Hield/Dunn, I think it would make sense to go with a high upside guy like Skal, Maker, Davis or Luwawu at 16. Then draft and stash your hearts out through the rest of the field. I think Young is gone unless he has a great training camp and summer league.
 

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Young has a $1M contract for next year which they could write as a lost cause. I didn't see anything at all from Hunter last year, and I think he'll be gone. Mickey they can stash in the D league if they have to. Rozier is likely to stick with the big club, leaving another spot on the D league roster.

Packaging picks to move up makes a lot sense if someone will play ball. The Celtics are choking on draft picks and everyone knows it, which will make attractive trades difficult. Ideally a package would involve giving up picks in this year's draft for picks next year, which is reputed to be a stronger year.
 

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Rozier played very well down the stretch (for a rookie), so I think he's a lock for next year. I expect Young and Hunter to be draft night salary filler in a trade of some sort. I expect that the top of the draft will be used for a swing for the fences move unless they trade back for Hield. With the SFTF move at the top of the draft I suspect that the second pick will be used on a contributor like Valentine. If Skal is still on the board, though, I expect him to be the pick at #16 as he is basically everything they need at the 4/5 if he pans out. Cheick Diallo is a possibility at #23 if they go for immediate help at #16.

I'm also convinced that Dejounte Murray got his draft promise from Boston and I think they might have their eye on Malachi Richardson, too.
 

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I'd like them to grab at least one high floor guy with one of those picks. Whenever Ainge makes the critical signings and/or consolidation trade to take the C's to the next level, it'll be nice to have some ready-made depth to support whoever end up being the stars of the team. Obviously it would be great to land 2 stars through free agency and a 3rd by trading the #3 + salary fodder to have our current starters make up a great 4-8, but you have to assume at some point a handful of those guys are going to be shipped out. It would be nice to have a Valentine-type to help fill in the gaps.
 

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Given the Olynyk pick and the reported offer for Kaminsky last year, I think Ainge really values PF/C who can shoot and this draft has a bunch of them who should be available at various drafting positions. I think we'll end up with one of Bender (at the 3) Ellenson, Chriss, Skal (these guys would likely require a trade down/up), Stephen Zimmerman, Zhou Qi or Petr Cornelie.
 

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I think 75% of the mocks I look at have Denzel Valentine to the Celtics at 16, and the others have Skal. Seen Thon Maker floated for the #23 slot.
 

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Given the Olynyk pick and the reported offer for Kaminsky last year, I think Ainge really values PF/C who can shoot and this draft has a bunch of them who should be available at various drafting positions. I think we'll end up with one of Bender (at the 3) Ellenson, Chriss, Skal (these guys would likely require a trade down/up), Stephen Zimmerman, Zhou Qi or Petr Cornelie.
Ainge offered a King's Ransom for the pick that became Kaminsky, but his target was Justice Winslow.
 

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#16 - Valentine or Sabonis would be fantastic if they slide there.
#23- gamble on a center: Zizac, Zubac Diallo, Zimmerman

Some 2nd round talent to consider (besides Euro Stash): Brogdon, Perry Ellis, Wiltjer, Levert
 

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There have been a lot of productive big men go #16 or later since 2010 that were projects and worked out:

Hassan Whiteside #33 (2010)
Nikola Vucevic #16 (2011)
Tobias Harris #19 (2011)
Kenneth Faried #22 (2011)
NIkola Mirotic #23 (2011)
Terrence Jones #18 (2012)
Draymond Green #35 (2012)
Gorgui Dieng #21 (2013)
Rudy Gobert #27 (2013)
Jusuf Nurkic #16 (2014)
Nikola Jokic #41 (2014)
Bobby Portis #22 (2015)

I'd like to see them keep the picks and draft a couple big men. Recently there's been value there, we have a need, and this draft seems to have lots of guys that fit the description that should be available. Potential targets below:

Thon Maker
Diamond Stone
Check Diallo
Ante Zizic
Zhou Qi
Ivica Zubac
 

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Would love Sabonis at 16

Dream scenario would involve trading picks for next year

If not, Would also like to see Zimmerman at 31, Zubac stash at 23 and trade down from 3 and still get Jaylen Brown

Yes I know that's a lot of white big men
 

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I'm pretty bullish on Zimmerman as well. He flashes athleticism (35" vertical) and makes plays above the rim. He only shot 25% from 3 and 64% from the line, but his form doesn't look awful and I expect he'll become a solid shooter in time. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he becomes a better player than Poeltl down the line if he receives the proper coaching and finds the right team fit. Poeltl is obviously the much better player now, but I suspect a lot of his success is due to his physical maturity and being able to use his size to beat up on the 6'8" centers he sees in college. I really don't see Poeltl as being more than a quality backup or a serviceable starter. Zimmerman could easily flame out, but I like his tools.
 

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For the heck of it, even though the Celtics will not be keeping all of their picks, my list of top three choices of guys who could reasonably* be available at the first five selections:


3 (Bender, Dunn, Murray)
16 (Dejounte Murray, Valentine, Korkmaz)
23 (Taurean Prince, Stephen Zimmerman, Chieck Diallo )
31 (Petr Cornelie, Patrick McCaw, Zhou Qi)
35 (Caris Levert, Pascal Siakam, Thon Maker)



*the mock drafts I’ve looked at vary pretty widely, so “reasonably” is certainly subject to interpretation
 

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Diamond Stone seems like right in the celtics wheelhouse - chubby big man who likes to shoot jumpers (Big Baby, Sully).

Ainge seems to also like highly rated guys coming out of HS who slipped due to under-performance freshman year. Skal, Diallo, Malik Newman & Diamond Stone all fit this profile.
 

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Would love Sabonis at 16

Dream scenario would involve trading picks for next year

If not, Would also like to see Zimmerman at 31, Zubac stash at 23 and trade down from 3 and still get Jaylen Brown

Yes I know that's a lot of white big men
Want to sell me on Jaylen Brown? As of now, he's the one guy I'd be upset to land with that first pick. I get that he has great size and athleticism, he certainly has defensive potential, and he does get to the line at a high rate, but his shot needs a complete overhaul and his terrible assist/turnover ratio, high foul rate and low steal% are red flags for his court awareness. From what I've seen he doesn't really have the ability to create for himself in the half court. If he's getting minutes, I just can't see him being anything other than a significant detriment on a decent team for the next couple of years.
 

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Brown is not who i really want so this is a half-hearted defense. But, he's got similar physical tools as other guys who've done well in the NBA, like Kawhi, Draymond, Pierce. For me the more similar comp for his ceiling that I see due to his current shortcomings are a couple other guys he's very physically similar to: Gerald Wallace & Jae Crowder. But, yeah, my take is he's basically he's a project who won't help right away, has an outside chance of being a star if everything breaks right. And if he develops well but not >90th percentile, then he'll basically duplicate what we already have with Crowder. But, if we trade down to #7 (for instance) and he's there, that's a great value pick who should at minimum be SF depth down the road.
 

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Want to sell me on Jaylen Brown? As of now, he's the one guy I'd be upset to land with that first pick. I get that he has great size and athleticism, he certainly has defensive potential, and he does get to the line at a high rate, but his shot needs a complete overhaul and his terrible assist/turnover ratio, high foul rate and low steal% are red flags for his court awareness. From what I've seen he doesn't really have the ability to create for himself in the half court. If he's getting minutes, I just can't see him being anything other than a significant detriment on a decent team for the next couple of years.
I also don't want him at #3 but I don't want Anyone at #3, at 6-9 or so I think is a good gamble as I think there only 3 players capable of developing into superstars and the other two won't be available (who have their own issues - lack of motivation and lack of bulk).

He already has an NBA body and the second best combination of speed and strength in the draft. He is really good at splitting defenders and is aggressive without forceful. Smart kid for a future NBA player and is a good passer especially for his size. Good defender. The fouls he got in the Pac12 won't be called at the next level that closely. He can guard 3 positions maybe 4. Very good in the air and on the break.

If you remember, Jason Richardson wasn't a great shooter at MSU, that's my comp for him (if people are saying Bender can be Nowitzki)

And he's young enough to get better, unlike someone like Hield or Valentine.
 

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I also don't want him at #3 but I don't want Anyone at #3, at 6-9 or so I think is a good gamble as I think there only 3 players capable of developing into superstars and the other two won't be available (who have their own issues - lack of motivation and lack of bulk).
But if there's no trading partner and we stay at 3, at that point it doesn't matter if you'd rather take him 6 through 9.
 

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I also don't want him at #3 but I don't want Anyone at #3, at 6-9 or so I think is a good gamble as I think there only 3 players capable of developing into superstars and the other two won't be available (who have their own issues - lack of motivation and lack of bulk).

He already has an NBA body and the second best combination of speed and strength in the draft. He is really good at splitting defenders and is aggressive without forceful. Smart kid for a future NBA player and is a good passer especially for his size. Good defender. The fouls he got in the Pac12 won't be called at the next level that closely. He can guard 3 positions maybe 4. Very good in the air and on the break.

If you remember, Jason Richardson wasn't a great shooter at MSU, that's my comp for him (if people are saying Bender can be Nowitzki)

And he's young enough to get better, unlike someone like Hield or Valentine.
I'm getting there...

Richardson came to mind for me as well, and looking at the freshman stats of some other swingmen slasher types who went on to successful careers gives hope, though of course it's harder to remember the names of the guys who went bust. After some digging, it appears he shot better in high school and AAU- nearly 40% from three and 70% from the line, so that's encouraging as well. The physical tools are obvious, and he has a nice first step too. If he can make significant improvements in ball handling and shooting, he has a very high ceiling. Obviously guys make that leap- J-Rich did. Kawhi Leonard is an extreme example, but his work ethic was considered a strength going into that draft. This quote about Brown doesn't inspire confidence: “‘He was the worst interview we had this week,’” ESPN’s Chad Ford reported that one NBA general manager told him. “‘By far, the worst interview. I know he hasn't hired an agent yet, but he was arrogant and didn't show a real feel for the game when we asked him basketball questions.’” From what I've read about Brown it sounds like he's a bright, introspective guy, maybe a bit aloof, and it could well be that how he comes off in an interview doesn't really reflect his on his dedication. The Suns apparently took Kawhi off their draft board because he was nervous and sweating in his interview, so these things have to be taken with a large grain of salt. But my main issue with him is that despite his obvious physical tools, he just didn't really stand out to me as a force on the court consistently the way a guy like that (say, Stanley Johnson, to use a recent example from the same conference) should. Danny will obviously do his due diligence, and if he thinks Brown's a good fit, I'd be excited to see what Stevens could do with him. I just wouldn't expect anything anytime soon.
 

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I know he hasn't hired an agent yet, but he was arrogant and didn't show a real feel for the game when we asked him basketball questions.’”
He's not hiring an agent.

California freshman Jaylen Brown – No. 4 in The Vertical’s 2016 NBA mock draft – will pass on hiring an agent and consult with the National Basketball Players Association on his rookie contract, league sources told The Vertical.

Brown will use a traditional agent to negotiate his shoe endorsement contract, league sources said.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-a-top-prospect-is-bucking-the-system-181542611.html
 

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The middle of the draft is going to be fun to watch as it seems among all the sites that the rankings are all over the place. As we have guards for days, I'd like to see both the 16 and 23 go for big guys with Sabonis being the top target. Mocks have him going anywhere from 8 to 19 so the 16 so he will probably be gone but he's a big strong kid who is a good scorer and a great rebounder. Additionally with the 23 I'd look at Zubac as he's had some success, is still young and is huge.
 

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I would put Taurean Prince over Sabonis as Sabonis is the NBA circa 1995. He can probably succeed as a bench big, but there's a lot more upside with Prince as a swing forward in the current NBA. I would also look long and hard at Malachi Richardson and Dejounte Murray at 23, as they're also major upside picks, over draft and stash guys whose upside is "emergency starter".
 

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I would put Taurean Prince over Sabonis as Sabonis is the NBA circa 1995. He can probably succeed as a bench big, but there's a lot more upside with Prince as a swing forward in the current NBA. I would also look long and hard at Malachi Richardson and Dejounte Murray at 23, as they're also major upside picks, over draft and stash guys whose upside is "emergency starter".
I'm with you on Prince- he looks like a 3 and D NBA player to me right now- and I love Murray's upside too. I watched a bunch of Furkan Korkmaz this morning and he can do pretty much everything offensively that I'd want a SG to do and he's one of the youngest players to declare. Good size for the position and he looks like one of the best shooters in the draft, though there's a minor hitch in his release that slow it down a bit. He's explosive yet smooth, with a really good first step, a good ball-handler and savvy passer. Runs the pick and roll well, and he looks very impressive moving without the ball and spotting up off of screens for a guy that young. He's got some Devin Booker in his game- though far weaker, but significantly more athletic. He'll need to put on 20 pounds of muscle before he can even think of defending anyone in the NBA, but his offense looks really advanced. Like Bender, he's a very young guy barely getting minutes on a top team in second-tier pro league. Any idea how the U18/U19 competition stacks up compared to the NCAA?
 
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I said this before in another thread but at 23, or maybe 31/35 depending on how things fall, I would hope the Cs take a long look at Jake Layman. I don't think MD's system suited Layman all that well but he is 6'9," started guarding the other team's small forward, and did the following at the combine:

"Where Layman might have helped himself the most in Chicago was in the shooting drills, finishing second behind Virginia’s Malcolm Brogdon shooting on the move (college distance 3-pointers and long NBA jumpers) and third in off-the-dribble shooting.

Layman also finished fourth overall – two spots behind Melo Trimble – in the shuttle run that measures how fast a player changes direction. His 39.5-inch vertical leap ranked fourth among forwards and centers." http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/bal-terps-draft-stocks-go-in-different-directions-after-nba-combine-20160515-story.html

Layman needs to add strength and hopefully learn to finish in traffic (but who doesn't) but seems like a guy who is better suited to the NBA than his college system.
 

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I'd like them to take a shot on a flyer like Thon Maker or Diallo with one of the picks and then a draft-and-stash Euro big man with the other. They have enough nice college players who fill specific roles(if no trades) such as Turner, Smart, Sullinger, and Zeller. I'd like them to take a chance on premium talent that slips, develop it, and hope they turn out to be stars.
 

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Turner and Sullinger aren't likely to be back, they're both free agents. Zeller is another that I wouldn't bet on returning.
 

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Haven't seen his name mentioned here, perhaps because most mocks have him going a couple of picks before 16, but Furkan Korkmaz is super intriguing. He's still only 18, and has played for one of Europe's elite teams in Andalou Efes. He's considered an elite athlete, shoots very well, and has good size for a 2 guard at 6'7. Reminds me a bit of Devin Booker, and has a ton of potential for somebody that could be there at 16.
 

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Haven't seen his name mentioned here, perhaps because most mocks have him going a couple of picks before 16, but Furkan Korkmaz is super intriguing. He's still only 18, and has played for one of Europe's elite teams in Andalou Efes. He's considered an elite athlete, shoots very well, and has good size for a 2 guard at 6'7. Reminds me a bit of Devin Booker, and has a ton of potential for somebody that could be there at 16.
I'm with you on Prince- he looks like a 3 and D NBA player to me right now- and I love Murray's upside too. I watched a bunch of Furkan Korkmaz this morning and he can do pretty much everything offensively that I'd want a SG to do and he's one of the youngest players to declare. Good size for the position and he looks like one of the best shooters in the draft, though there's a minor hitch in his release that slow it down a bit. He's explosive yet smooth, with a really good first step, a good ball-handler and savvy passer. Runs the pick and roll well, and he looks very impressive moving without the ball and spotting up off of screens for a guy that young. He's got some Devin Booker in his game- though far weaker, but significantly more athletic. He'll need to put on 20 pounds of muscle before he can even think of defending anyone in the NBA, but his offense looks really advanced. Like Bender, he's a very young guy barely getting minutes on a top team in second-tier pro league. Any idea how the U18/U19 competition stacks up compared to the NCAA?

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Diamond Stone seems like right in the celtics wheelhouse - chubby big man who likes to shoot jumpers (Big Baby, Sully).

Ainge seems to also like highly rated guys coming out of HS who slipped due to under-performance freshman year. Skal, Diallo, Malik Newman & Diamond Stone all fit this profile.
Great post! I've been wondering lately if we could generalize about some of Danny's draft day tendencies. In addition to chubby shooters and freshman slippers, he seems to target athletic PGs, tough combo guards, skinny wing shooters, bigs with bad bodies, and in the second round in particular, tweener forwards who have a 4's game in a 3's body.
 

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Great post! I've been wondering lately if we could generalize about some of Danny's draft day tendencies. In addition to chubby shooters and freshman slippers, he seems to target athletic PGs, tough combo guards, skinny wing shooters, bigs with bad bodies, and in the second round in particular, tweener forwards who have a 4's game in a 3's body.
And people named Orien.
 

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Great post! I've been wondering lately if we could generalize about some of Danny's draft day tendencies. In addition to chubby shooters and freshman slippers, he seems to target athletic PGs, tough combo guards, skinny wing shooters, bigs with bad bodies, and in the second round in particular, tweener forwards who have a 4's game in a 3's body.
Ahh, but we already have prospects who include a athletic PG, a tough combo guard, a skinny wing shooter and a 2nd round 4 in a 3 body (Mickey = Gomes 2.0 good call I hadn't thought of that one). But, this offseason we probably lose a big with a bad body who is chubby & likes to shoot & was a freshman slipper (sullinger). So, that's clearly a need with one of those 16, 23 or 31 picks (Diamond Stone - book it, lock of the century).
 

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I'd like to see the Celts draft Caris Levert if he's around at 35. I think he has an NBA game when healthy.
He's been my target in the 1st round all winter and now with his latest surgery plus inability to workout for teams he'd be an ideal early 2nd round flyer on a 2+2 team option deal. I have no doubt about his game being better suited for the NBA......the foot is the question mark with him.
 

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He seems like the kind of player that Stevens can work with, since he can potentially play 3 different spots on the floor, allowing the team to take advantage of matchups. He needs to add some strength/weight, but he'd be intriguing.

He can't workout before the draft or play summer league, so he's going to slide.
 

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The middle of the draft is going to be fun to watch as it seems among all the sites that the rankings are all over the place. As we have guards for days, I'd like to see both the 16 and 23 go for big guys with Sabonis being the top target. Mocks have him going anywhere from 8 to 19 so the 16 so he will probably be gone but he's a big strong kid who is a good scorer and a great rebounder. Additionally with the 23 I'd look at Zubac as he's had some success, is still young and is huge.
Sorry to pick on you, because I've seen a lot of people make essentially the same point, but why do you think a team that finished 28th in 3-point shooting % is all set for guards?

Besides that, we won't keep our current guard corps together indefinitely -- IT and Bradley will both be free agents two years from now, which is when Smart will start getting expensive also.
 

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Sorry to pick on you, because I've seen a lot of people make essentially the same point, but why do you think a team that finished 28th in 3-point shooting % is all set for guards?

Besides that, we won't keep our current guard corps together indefinitely -- IT and Bradley will both be free agents two years from now, which is when Smart will start getting expensive also.
If you lose Turner and Sullinger, forwards, you have addition by subtraction, especially when it comes to percentage of 3pters made.

If you also improve your bigs you free up space for Marcus smart so maybe he shoots less of them too. 3pters by ab and it isn't the team's problem
 

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Sorry to pick on you, because I've seen a lot of people make essentially the same point, but why do you think a team that finished 28th in 3-point shooting % is all set for guards?

Besides that, we won't keep our current guard corps together indefinitely -- IT and Bradley will both be free agents two years from now, which is when Smart will start getting expensive also.
The team has a pretty solid guard rotation but needs an upgrade at either the point or the wing and that upgrade needs to be able to shoot. I think a player like Batum would fit really well here. He can be a small ball 3 or a regular 2. He can shoot and he plays very good defense. He deserves to be paid and he might not want to be a 6th man, but he's exactly what we need if we're not going to trade for an elite wing.
 

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If you lose Turner and Sullinger, forwards, you have addition by subtraction, especially when it comes to percentage of 3pters made.

If you also improve your bigs you free up space for Marcus smart so maybe he shoots less of them too. 3pters by ab and it isn't the team's problem
The easiest upgrade for the C's this summer is to find someone to play Evan Turner's minutes who doesn't suck. And while Turner is listed as a forward, I'd wager he played at least as many minutes at the two guard spots as he did at the 3. Besides, in the modern NBA it probably makes more sense to think about your lineup as three perimeter guys and two bigs rather than as a traditional GGFFC lineup -- and in that way of thinking, Turner is a perimeter guy, not a big.

Marcus Smart had a nice series against Atlanta and is unquestionably a plus defender, but he was an execrable offensive player all season -- he's not a good finisher at the rim, he's a terrible perimeter shooter, and he's a below-average passer for a guard. The C's fortunes in 2016-17 will depend in no small part on Smart improving in those areas. I'm not confident enough that he'll do so, however, to assume any degree of improvement in those areas when planning for the club's long-term needs. Even if he does improve, he'll be a restricted free agent after 2017-18, when IT and Bradley will also be (unrestricted) free agents, so the C's are by no means set in the backcourt for the long haul.

Sully is in some ways the opposite of Smart -- his long-term outlook isn't promising, and he looked terrible in the playoffs, but he made a respectable contribution to the club during the regular season. I don't know where Sully will be next year -- I assume someone will offer him stupid money, and I hope Danny won't match. Drafting a big and giving him Sully's minutes in the short run might be the right move for the club in the long run, but he'll probably be a modest step back in the short run.
 

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Who are the potential Eurostashes? Beginning with the Tankathon mock draft, the international players are:
  • Bender -- 18-1/2 years old, he is pencilled in at #3, to either the Celtics or a trade partner;
  • Luwawu -- already 21 years old, and listed as Tankathon's #10, it seems unlikely that the Celtics will have a chance at stashing Luwawu, and he's probably too old to stash even if he drops;
  • Korkmaz -- not quite 19 years old, with excellent range, listed as Tankathon's #16, he seems like a prime target for the Celts with the Mavericks' pick;
  • Zubac -- 19 years old, 7'1", Tankathon's #25, seems like a reasonable fallback for the Celts with their own pick;
  • Cordinier -- 19-1/2 years old, slasher with good hops and range, Tankathon's #26, Cordinier might be a target with the Celtics' own pick, or if he falls into the second round.
Who else might be on Ainge's Eurostash radar?
 

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That's much higher on Cordinier than I've seen, usually he's a 2nd rounder.

With 23 (or maybe 16?)
Cornelie-20 years old 6'11" French PF- Late 1st early 2nd projections
Zizic- 19 years old 6'11" 240 Croatian C- probably going to go somewhere in the late first (Giovny has him going to us at 23)
Qi- 20 years old 7'2" Chinese C/PF- same range as Zizic/Zubac etc. Celtics just had him in for a workout.
Hernangomez- 20 years old- 6'9" Spanish SF- Late 1st projections

In the second-
Yabusele- 20 years old 6'8" French PF
Zagorac- 20 years old 6'9" Serbian SF
Zipser- 22 years old 6'8" German SF
Papagiannis-18 years old 7'2" Greek C