it’s not really a tear down when you re-sign most of the expiring vets, don’t ship off parts (other than Judon very late) and maintain continuity basically everywhere they could.
It's the NFL, a teardown is turning over most of the roster, and none of those guys are worth picks except Judon. A teardown means you reset the roster's most important positions, you keep only players under 30, etc.
I think he decided ten years ago he wanted a succession from Bill, not a full tear down and rebuild when he either retired or moved on. They probably had McDaniel in mind long before Mayo. Maybe Billy O too. But succession had to take place with the players too. That's where Mac really fucked them. And not having a plan in place for Brady's departure. And the rest of the personnel whiffs. Now they have a bad coaching staff, a bad front office and bad players. It's going to be a long road.
mayo is vance joseph which 5 years after his fireing he might get another shot somewhere
Going 1-16 ought to do it, and they look eminently capable of doing so.
I am utterly flummoxed at the team's approach.
I have no problem with losing, I also think the jury is very out on Wolf (less than 1 year is not enough time to evaluate a GM, given you don't even really evaluate picks until year 3 unless they completely flame out), or even the staff overall. I do think Mayo is putting out things that can be evaluated..... and all indications are he's a pretty terrible coach. (as a side note... I do wonder if we didn't read enough into him not being trusted to call plays on defense and how that might reflect on Bill's view of his in-game accumen).
They drafted a QB that the vast majority of analysts said could use to sit for some portion or all of the first season regardless of where he went. He's young and incredibly high ceiling, the O-line might also be a factor, but it isn't the only one, maybe not even one of the more important ones. The idea that the line being bad is the only reason they aren't starting Maye is not in line with anything the Patriots or most draft analysts were saying in the offseason, it's an invention. From what they have told us, they aren't starting Maye because they are following their development plan and it's what they think is best to get him to be a top QB in the league down the line.
The idea is that the upcoming draft has no QB's that are nearly as good as a prospect as Drake Maye. That may or may not turn out to be correct, but it's something I've heard about the upcoming draft really sucking when it comes to NFL caliber quarterbacks. I'm not a draftnik and don't play one on TV, so take it for what you paid for it.
Breer commented that they are pleased with Maye’s steady progress in practice, especially most recently in his ability to diagnose blitzes, and that a November switch isn’t out of the question. I think he’s largely channeling the Wolf camp’s POV there based on the sum of his reporting in the post-BB era, so that is gonna color his reporting of the handling of Maye, but worth noting as more potential insight into how they are thinking about Maye.
Once they start playing him the clock is well and truly ticking for this coaching staff. The longer they delay it the more time it buys them.
Maye doesn't have a Rogers or Smith in front of him. He doesn't even have a Fitzpatrick or a 2020 Wentz.
That's not the issue though. The issue is whether sitting for some time is detrimental to a young QBs development.
Seriously. This board is on absolute shambles that a predicted bottom of the barrel team is actually swirling at the bottom of the barrel. I can't imagine the posts here if there were expectations of even going .500.
I agree with this. They’re predictably awful and horrible teams make many mistakes. The team last year made mistakes too even with a great coaching staff; their talent (none) is creating an impossible situation where no errors can be overcome. Then that situation compounds on itself.
He doesn't strike me as someone with a ton of self-awareness. So it's unlikely he's staring into the mirror and saying "I've made a terrible mistake."
Maybe not "I've made a mistake", but more along the lines of "this isn't very fun".
That is what Friday's are for...
Would he be the Review Guy too? I can't believe they didn't challenge the spot when it was clear that the ball carrier (I forget who) gained the line by about a yard and a half. Instead, they hurried up to the line and ended up getting a false start/illegal procedure penalty on the center. Should have been 1st and 10 instead I believe it ended up being 3rd and 6. Seems like everything is moving way too fast for this staff. They don't have a ton of experience in their current roles, much less all working together as a cohesive group.
Most people thought this team would end up with like 4 wins or so. We all knew that Maye wouldn't play for a while. We all knew that Jacoby wasn't very good. We all knew that the OL was a mess. We all thought the defense would be solid but they've been missing so many guys, it's not the unit we thought it would be, and it turns out they're not as good as we hoped. We all knew that Mayo was massively inexperienced and that it would likely show up in games.
Rothstein's official title is Assistant QB's / Director of Game Management.
The only thing I would not agree with here is that I thought JB would be at least somewhat better than he has been. He's been dreadful. But if The Plan was to play the bridge guy until Maye was ready to play behind an awful line, and the Bridge Guy turns out to be a disaster, do you blow up The Plan and put Maye in sooner than you'd like, do you try to find another bridge guy, or do you eat the shit sandwich you made for yourself? I'm eager to see Maye out there the instant he's ready--and I assume Wolf and Mayo feel the same way--but I'm not keen to see them blow up the plan.
FWIW, on the radio Zolak initially was in disbelief over that spot, but after watching the replay he noted that Brissett's knee went down too soon.
I think that was a mistake. Your BEST chance to win is on those two plays. Get them right.
Like a person who wakes up everyday knowing they are in way over their head at their job.
I think most people thought this would be a step towards competitiveness and hoped that Mayo/Wolf would prove they were the right choices to replace BB
The defense - even dealing with injuries - has been ok. The special teams for the most part have been a massive improvement over last year. The running game has been good. The receivers - well, we know they've been getting open, according to the data and all-22 film review. So the issues are the OL (which we knew would be one going in) and QB. Coaching is following a normal learning curve.
I doubt the problem here is a technical one, not understanding the rules or how to run the clock down or whatever. I think Mayo just didn't know what he was trying to accomplish.
Plenty of us saw the lack of playcalling as a big warning flag. But he was Kraft's guy...
This is all I see in this forum since the Seattle game. (in regards to there being no hope) I can't believe I'm reading about a second round rookie being coached poorly because he wants to argue he was actually in bounds on a TD. Losing really does bring out some craziness in posting.
To be fair the first 5-10 people they interviewed didn’t want it from the rumors.
