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Devizier

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Joe D Reid said:
So, what then:
 
 
C: Zunino
1B: Hart
2B: Cano
SS: Miller
3B: Seager
RF: Almonte
CF: Ackley
LF: Saunders
DH: whoever sucks less between Smoak and Montero
 
1B/LF: Morrison
2B/SS: Franklin
UT: Bloomquist
 
That leaves the Mariners without a backup catcher, if they carry 13 pitchers. I don't blame them for signing Bloomquist. He sucks, but he can play every position on the field without mangling it.
 
I think Ackley, Franklin, or Saunders will be traded, and that the Mariners will probably regret that move.
 
But the Hart signing makes a lot of sense.
 

Tyrone Biggums

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Mets just gave 89 year old Bartolo Colon 2/20.

What is going on with this market?
 

Morgan's Magic Snowplow

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Fatty Colon has had fWARs of 2.8, 2.4, and 3.9 the last three years.  I think 2/20 is a pretty reasonable deal for a team that hopes to be a bit more competitive this year and next but is really building for the longer term.  Even though he's ancient, I'd rather ink that deal than Feldman at 3/30, Hughes at 3/24, or Vargas at 4/32, to take a few comparable signings.
 

Plympton91

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If Colon is pitching anywhere near as well as he was last year at the trade deadline and the Mets are out of it, I have to believe that contract will be quite attractive to some team that is looking for a 4th starter.  They may be able to parlay the signing into a very good prospect if they want to go that route.
 

ivanvamp

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Tyrone Biggums said:
Mets just gave 89 year old Bartolo Colon 2/20.

What is going on with this market?
 
Someone try to tell me that using PEDs is a bad idea for these guys.  PEDs rescued Colon's career, he got caught, suspended 50 games, and then just made $20 million at age 40.  Since he doesn't have a prayer at the HOF, how does using PEDs hurt this guy?
 

Spacemans Bong

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Tyrone Biggums said:
Mets just gave 89 year old Bartolo Colon 2/20.

What is going on with this market?
 
Nothing, player salaries are 40% of revenue. They were 60% a decade ago, amazingly. The new national TV deal is giving teams something like an extra $30 million a year. Which is telling for the Mets, they've just spent their extra national TV money and no more. They're still diverting money from the team to pay for Fred's Madoff fuckups. 
 
 

MakMan44 said:
Giants sign Morse
 
 
It's just not a Giants offseason without a veteran lottery ticket. Which is cool, because Brian Sabean has actually hit on several of those guys. But they actually think Morse is going to be their left fielder over Gregor Blanco, who was a 2.5 win player last year. Morse is an f'ing butcher with the glove, so even if they get a dead cat bounce 110 OPS+ guy - I don't think we'll see much more than that, he's a high-strikeout, low-OBP guy who is awful on breaking balls and didn't hit the fastball in 2012 -  he's likely to be less valuable than Blanco would be. 
 

SouthernBoSox

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First report said 3 year, 21 mil.

It's amazing what a good year will do for you. He was a throw in not long ago.
 

Savin Hillbilly

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Ed Hillel said:
Boone Logan to the Rockies for 3/16.5.

http://hardballtalk....-with-colorado/

That is a real thing that happened.
 
Not that shocking given the other RP deals we've been seeing--it's right in line with what guys like Joe Smith and Javier Lopez have been getting. A 29-year-old lefty with a history of durability and two straight years of >11 K rates in a tough division is a pretty valuable commodity.
 
Although I will say Mujica should probably fire his agent at this point.
 

glennhoffmania

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cheekydave said:
Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 13 Dec
Omar Infante in agreement with Royals on a 4-year deal, source confirms. @FOXSports1
 
With each deal I get more confused about the Yankees' strategy.  They offered a higher AAV than KC, so the deal he signed would be even better in terms of the 2014 cap.  Their only 2B option at this point is Johnson, yet they don't increase their 3/24 offer to top KC's 4/30?  They signed a 6th OF for 45m at age 37, but they won't give Infante 31m.  I'm stumped.
 

MakMan44

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Rudy Pemberton said:
Eh, it's Omar Infante. I know this offseason is nuts, but is that really the kind of guy you want to give a 4 year deal too? Napoli has to be the deal of the offseason at this point.
Not like the next two seasons have anything better hitting FA. Howie Kendrick probably tops the list and he won't hit the market until 2016 (possibly with a pick attached too)
 

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Savin Hillbilly said:
 
Not that shocking given the other RP deals we've been seeing--it's right in line with what guys like Joe Smith and Javier Lopez have been getting. A 29-year-old lefty with a history of durability and two straight years of >11 K rates in a tough division is a pretty valuable commodity.
 
Although I will say Mujica should probably fire his agent at this point.
As a Rockies fan, when I first saw this contract, I was surprised, and even pissed considering the Rockies operate on a tight budget.  As a Sox fan, as well, I have seen my share of Logan over the past few years, and he as always struck me as a quality, but non elite reliever.  In other words, not a guy worth this contract he just got.  But I looked into the numbers, and his K/9 rate is more impressive then I realized, as is his ability to shut down LH hitters.  Then, when, as you mention, other contracts signed this offseason are factored in, it doesn't look so bad after all.  
 
Also, specifically for the Rocks, they have a lefty closer and now LaTroy Hawkins and Matt Belisle, so they can use Logan as a true loogy without worrying about other matchups.  
 

Savin Hillbilly

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Sox and Rocks said:
As a Rockies fan, when I first saw this contract, I was surprised, and even pissed considering the Rockies operate on a tight budget.  As a Sox fan, as well, I have seen my share of Logan over the past few years, and he as always struck me as a quality, but non elite reliever.  In other words, not a guy worth this contract he just got.  But I looked into the numbers, and his K/9 rate is more impressive then I realized, as is his ability to shut down LH hitters.  Then, when, as you mention, other contracts signed this offseason are factored in, it doesn't look so bad after all.  
 
Also, specifically for the Rocks, they have a lefty closer and now LaTroy Hawkins and Matt Belisle, so they can use Logan as a true loogy without worrying about other matchups.
 
And his numbers vs. RHH have improved the past few years--he's no longer terrible against them, just ordinary. This, and the spiking K/9, seem to have coincided with him evolving from a four-pitch to a two-pitch pitcher, shelving his changeup and sinker to focus on his 4-seamer and slider:


 
 

MakMan44

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rembrat said:
That could be a huge signing.
 
edit: The Gavin Floyd one.
Are you sure?
 
Cause I mean, the big Pelf put up an ERA of 5.19 last year. 
 
5.19
 

jimc

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Pelfrey career:
 
ERA+: 90
WHIP: 1.472
BB/9:  3.2
K/9: 5.2
H/9: 10.1
 
Two slightly above average seasons in eight tries, both in the NL East. I just cannot see what the point is of the Twins paying $5.5m/year for this. Yeah more money than ever, value of a win etc, but why can't they approximate Pelfrey's performance with anyone in-house under team control? It just seems like such a pointless, nothing way to waste money.
 

ivanvamp

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MakMan44 said:
Pelfrey got a 2 year 11MM deal with the Twins
 
https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/status/412010452659363840
 
Holy.  Crap.  
 
Last two full seasons (not counting 2012 when he pitched just 3 games):  
 
2011:  4.74 era, 78 era+, 1.47 whip, 4.9 k/9
2013:  5.19 era, 78 era+, 1.55 whip, 6.0 k/9
*TOTAL bWAR in 2011+2013:  +0.1, which means he should have been worth about $500k *over the entire two year span*.
 
And *THAT* guy gets $5.5 million dollars per year for 2 years?  Good grief people, we're all in the wrong profession.
 

Minneapolis Millers

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So Arizona grew a nice crop of prospects, enabling Towers to take the Danny Ainge approach: swap unproven youngsters for stars.  Except that, well, Mark Trumbo and Addison Reed ain't exactly Garnett and Allen.
 

Plympton91

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They gave away Jim Johnson to save $2.5 million?  I am reminded of why people wanted Duquette to be fired.
 

Puffy

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Plympton91 said:
They gave away Jim Johnson to save $2.5 million?  I am reminded of why people wanted Duquette to be fired.
 
I guess they get Jemile Weeks + two years of Balfour at $7.5 million, instead of having 1 year of Johnson for $10 million.
 

Minneapolis Millers

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I understand Jemile Weeks isn't good, but why did Beane want Johnson at $10M+ if Balfour could have been had for a 2/$15M deal?   Did Balfour just not want to play for Oakland?  It's not as though Johnson is significantly (or at all) better than Balfour...