Hunter Renfroe traded to Brewers for JBJ and 2 prospects

teddywingman

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Do people really expect another SP acquisition? Even if we assume Whitlock is staying as a short reliever, that still leaves Sale, Eovaldi, Hill, Pivetta, Houck and Wacha with Paxton added July/August. I suppose they could put Houck in AAA and Wacha as long man (and worry about a spot for Paxton when the time comes) but it feels to me like the rotation is done.
I wouldn't be surprised at all. The way pitchers are used has changed drastically in a short period of time, and in no small part because of Bloom.
 

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Fir those who suggested that Schwarber should be learning 1st base because it would be worth millions to his value…He is likely going to get 100 million plus dollars before anyone sees him near a 1st basemans glove.
It’s being reported that he’s asking for 3 years/$60 million. Where are you getting this?
 

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Fir those who suggested that Schwarber should be learning 1st base because it would be worth millions to his value…He is likely going to get 100 million plus dollars before anyone sees him near a 1st basemans glove.
I could guess what's going on in a Schwarbers head based on a trope that may or may not apply, or I could guess based on what appeared to be the actual work he put in last year to rise above being embarrassingly bad at the position.
 

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This has been a really fun thread to catch up on this morning at SBux! Lots of angles to digest. My thoughts:

- I find it interesting that there are some in here worried that Chaim hasn’t made big FA moves and is trying to mirror the frugal ways of Tampa Bay, when he basically paid $17M for OF depth and two moderately good prospects. As some have said, that is a creative way for big market teams to be taking advantage of their position.

- Chaim seems to love roster flexibility — particularly defensively, and adding JBJ as OF depth (regardless if he ends up starting 125 games, being a late inning defensive replacement, etc.) does that, particularly if Schwarber is re-signed and you have the Schwarber/JDM conundrum of trying to balance big offensive upside against lousy defense thru a 162 game season.

- JBJ is the Sox version of Kevin Kiermaier — which Chaim obviously valued the elite defense with very marginal offense. While Kiermaier has been marginally better offensively to JBJ over his career (OPS+ 98 vs. 87+), they feel like relatively similar players historically.

- Seeing the updated lists of Top 30/Top 20 MLB prospects for the Red Sox in this thread has me pretty excited. It will continue to give them further flexibility to gather more elite talent thru trades eventually, and I look forward to the 10 year $400 million contract that Mayer gets in 2028 as Chaim eschews non-elite big FA contracts and locks up home grown stars.
 

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If they sign Schwarber, wonder if there could be a weird Schwarber / Dalbec / Bradley platoon type situation…

Schwarber- 1b vs tough righties, LF vs all else (Verdugo in RF)
Bradley- RF vs righties (Verdugo in LF)
Dalbec- 1b vs lefties, mediocre righties

Sign Jose Martinez for depth at 1b/of, Iglesias or someone similar for IF depth. If you really want to go nuts with versatility, Brad Miller instead.

Verdugo/Hernandez/Bradley/Schwarber
Devers/Bogaerts/Arroyo/Dalbec
Vazquez
JD

Plawecki/Jose Martinez/Iglesias (or Miller)

That looks pretty damn good.
 

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If they sign Schwarber, wonder if there could be a weird Schwarber / Dalbec / Bradley platoon type situation…

Schwarber- 1b vs tough righties, LF vs all else (Verdugo in RF)
Bradley- RF vs righties (Verdugo in LF)
Dalbec- 1b vs lefties, mediocre righties

Sign Jose Martinez for depth at 1b/of, Iglesias or someone similar for IF depth. If you really want to go nuts with versatility, Brad Miller instead.

Verdugo/Hernandez/Bradley/Schwarber
Devers/Bogaerts/Arroyo/Dalbec
Vazquez
JD

Plawecki/Jose Martinez/Iglesias (or Miller)

That looks pretty damn good.
I think this looks pretty good. I liked Jose Martinez a few years ago but I’m not sure about him these days. He was a terrible defensive player before the injury and he’s not young.

Maybe Bloom likes Refsnyder for this role? Jon Abbey would have more to say about him, but there’s all sorts of copy published about his promising bat from 5-6 years ago. He put up nice exit velocities last year and seems healthy. Obviously Suzuki’s more compelling but Refsnyder could be a better bet than some out there.