No way that kid is 6'9". Also, is Scal really 6'9" or is that the old way of NBA measuring?
Seems to me that Scal has several inches on him. See screenshot below. Understand that camera angles can be deceptive.
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Seems to me that Scal has several inches on him. See screenshot below. Understand that camera angles can be deceptive.
Interesting question you didn't really pose but I will. Interweb tells me that there are 70,000 professional basketball players in the world. That of course includes low level leagues.
You think Scal could beat 20,000 of them?
Ha, he ain't close to 6'9. He looks reasonably athletic. His jump shot is shit. He doesn't look like a very impressive player at all but I was also using hyperbole saying half the board would have taken him to school (figured that would be obvious). But I would gladly bet that several members of the non-old fart crowd here could beat him.
way more than 20,000. I'd guess he could be at least 65,000 of them.
Yeah, you guys are right. I was looking at the video when they were out at the 3 point line a few times. The POV for where they were both standing made the height differential look alot closer.
Ha I wish. No athletic scholarships at the D3 level. She’s good but not THAT good.We know that's all you wanted to say. You just want to be a proud papa bragging about your kid. Were aware thatplays occur in every sport that cant be measured.
Hope your kid gets a scholarship or something, though.
Funny story... her grandmother told us when she was in high school that we should talk to Geno about her. I said “about what?” She said Geno would have her on the UConn women’s team. I laughed out loud. I mean, it’s one thing to be a proud parent or grandparent. It’s another thing to be utterly delusional.
I’m just thrilled to see her back on the court. She’s been through two ACL tears. :-(
yes.
Brain Sacalabrine was on an NBA roster for 10 straight years. Now, he's been retired 8 years, so that trails off, but year, he'd toast anyone outside the top 3-4 leagues for sure.
I like Tristan offensively in the right lineups: spaced-out, setting high screens for Tatum, chasing down rebounds. That seems to work better for Tatum than finding TL for lobs, but I’ll admit I haven’t thought about this topic much.
I think I’m just generally higher on TT than most here. He does what he does well, knows his role, and doesn’t have a lot of matchups that are really painful for him.
Tacko’s been out with an ankle injury. No idea on his timeline. Nobody ever cared about it before lol.
Yeah, he's actually a really tough 1-on-1 player because he can just bully ball the weak/skinny guys and stretch out the big bodies.
Finally something we can agree on... lol
He's a bright guy, he's not going to lose a game based on ego either. He's going to hunt his advantage or their weakness. As noted, he took the little guy down low and just abused him (and then shot some 3s to let him know he could). I'd take him against the vast majority as well. You don't get 10 years on NBA rosters without having a little something in your game.
Yeah, there are some really, really low-level "professional" leagues out there that are rife with dude who rode pine for D2 schools and are playing for meal stipends. I play with a guy who played in the Israeli Second Division, which is probably still in the upper third of pro leagues (?) and I think he was like a 20 mpg guy for Yeshiva College as a senior. I don't know much about the Skyline Conference, but I seriously doubt many of those dudes are messing with a 43 year old Scal.
Not trying to be that guy, but the WNBA is a pro league. There are also a lot of leagues like the Philippines Basketball Association where players like former Celtic Charles Smith averaged 90 points a game. Granted that was awhile back but still.
Maybe some Euro league players, a few G league players would beat Scal.
Hey, you never know. I went to a small D3 high school. My graduating class was only about170 kids. But a girl I graduated with got a full ride to play basketball at Pitt. Weirder things have happened.
(Note: She was also 6'4. Which helps.)
Edit - Oh. I'm an idiot. She's at a D3 college NOW, not a D3 high school, right? Duh.
Ha yes D3 college. If she was 6'4", with her skill set, yes she'd be playing D1 for free. But alas......5'9" and so D3 it is.
Yes, but I"m sure it's a bit of hyperbole centered around a kernel of truth. Either way, he's not always out of position.
Really liked what I saw tonight. Not sure he can top 30 mins but a Trip Dub or 4x4 or even 5x5 is in play for him. Great first start.
I think this understates the impact Timelord’s vertical spacing should have as the team gets better and better at using it. Timelord should be able to open the lane for Kemba, Tatum, and Brown by playing as a roll man.
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TL isn’t disciplined enough to both defend the paint and check three point shooting centers
However, Lopez scored only 6 points, going 2-6 from three, and 0-2 from two, TL’s inability to defend big centers in the low block non withstanding.
TL’s out of position-ness resulted in only 5 blocks tonight.
However, Lopez scored only 6 points, going 2-6 from three, and 0-2 from two, TL’s inability to defend big centers in the low block non withstanding.
TL’s out of position-ness resulted in only 5 blocks tonight.
At what point does Dr. (W)Hoop become as untouchable as Jaylen and Jayson? His ability to impact the game seems to grow with every game.
He’s moving into the Smart category of not being untouchable but we would need a pretty compelling reason to trade him at this point. Getting expensive soon so that could be one. I hope we keep him. Real fun player to watch.
I forget who said it or where I read it (might have been Scal on a broadcast actually) but Scal is a hell of a lot closer to LeBron than these kids are to him. It’s so true.
I think you're right--the correct answer is probably just that TL is better than TT in all but a very few matchups, with the gap increasing.
The nice thing is that "expensive" for extending young centers rarely/never ends up being much money, and everyone is terrified of being the next Nerlens Noel (turned down 4/72 guaranteed iirc, and has made ~$13M over the next 4 years, all on minimum deals).
I think TL ends up extending for something like 4/$50-60, which is the kind of contract that you are fine slotting in around 2-3 max guys, and retains trade value.
Yup. I would sign up for a 4/50 or 4/60 deal right now. I hope they get something done this summer.
I’m guessing the negotiations will revolve around Turner and Sabonis as comps for young emerging centers, with the Celtics’ downward leverage being TL’s health issues.
Weiss has a great, sub. only, piece in the Athletic on TL’s game last night:
With Daniel Theis traded away, Rob Williams seizes the moment in Celtics’ dominant win
https://theathletic.com/2480546/2021/03/27/with-daniel-theis-traded-away-rob-williams-seizes-the-moment-in-celtics-dominant-win/?source=user_shared_article
Yup. We’ll see how the rest of the season goes but if I’m TL, I’m signing any offer that’s close to 4/50 or more. The upside isn’t worth the significant downside, IMO. As you mentioned with Noel, bigs can go out of favor really quickly in the NBA.
And if he wants to play hardball, Danny will just let him play it out.
Exactly: this isn’t a “young wing” situation, where you basically know the dude is getting maxed.
Center RFA has been good to the original teams, and agents know this.
It’s too bad that it was all for naught, because Tatum and Brown spent the game moping about Theis being gone.
Do the Celtics still go hard after Drummond? If I were TL I'd be pissed if I get sent back to the bench after the course of events and placing so well in my first start after the reboot
I don't know but I'm not sure TL stays in the starting lineup once TT is back anyway.
He doesn't have quite enough minutes to qualify for most of the rate stat leaderboards, but if he did he'd be:
-1st in FG %
-1st in block %
-5th in rebound %
-11th in steal %
-3rd in WS/48
-1st in DPM
I really want to see what happens when he gets more minutes.
-1st in FG %
-1st in block %
-5th in rebound %
-11th in steal %
-3rd in WS/48
-1st in DPM
I really want to see what happens when he gets more minutes.
Olynyk is a better fit than Drummond. Either is probably better than Thompson. TL needs to start for this team. They need to win first quarters to set the tone early, and a good passing center who protects the paint is the best way to get off to a good start.
Good article, thanks.
"Just halfway through the third quarter, Williams already had reached a vaunted 5 x 4 with at least five points, rebounds, assists and blocks on the night, joining Larry Bird, Paul Pierce, Robert Parrish, Al Horford and Pervis Ellison as the only players to do so in franchise history, per Sportradar. If the loose ball he deflected on a Jrue Holiday drive late in the first quarter had pinged his way as it bounced around randomly, he would have pulled off the first 5 x 5 with steals in franchise history."
Time Lord was a human Tommy Point last night, he impacted a ton of possessions on both ends in ways that aren't reflected in the stats, like the play mentioned above where he forced the turnover but didn't get credit for a steal, and the diving save mentioned in the article that led to a Tatum 3.
So does DA get credit for drafting a starter at #27?
And Brad has done a great job of developing him.
Drummond or no Drummond, TL has to stay healthy for BOS to make any noise IMO.
And Brad has done a great job of developing him.
Drummond or no Drummond, TL has to stay healthy for BOS to make any noise IMO.
Agreed. Olynyk drove me nuts at times when he was a Celtic, but his outside shooting and solid defense would be welcome additions.
Rob is 2nd on the team behind Tatum in b-ball index’s LEBRON stat, 35th overall.
I think in a fantasy world where he could stay healthy, I really believe that he could be our second biggest impact player within a couple of years.
I think in a fantasy world where he could stay healthy, I really believe that he could be our second biggest impact player within a couple of years.
It’s looking like it has a chance to be a big win in that slot, and not kill us one the 2nd contract too.
The only realistic path to contention was to have 1-2 of the recent picks become impact players, either for on-court value or to trade.
We all picked the wrong one. Hopefully one of the 14s work out.
He gets a win for PP too, though some will say it's too early for that.
Updated March numbers
12 games, 22.2 mpg, 10.3 points, 8.7 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.9 blocks, 0.8 steals, 1.0 TO, 2.0 PF on .722/-/.679 shooting.
12 games, 22.2 mpg, 10.3 points, 8.7 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.9 blocks, 0.8 steals, 1.0 TO, 2.0 PF on .722/-/.679 shooting.
He gets more tipped balls and disrupted handles on little guys than I've ever seen from a center. His hands really are impressive.