There are a lot of other females that work there.
A question for the attorneys here:
If true, this is a terrible look for ownership. Given her position, its distance from the HC office, and her relationship to Pags this looks retribution. I think this would sit poorly with the players.
Ahh. Now it's starting to make sense. Hit a little too close to home for Pagliuca, so he brought out the pitchforks.
Agreed, if this is the case, and nothing more, I don't know how you suspend the coach for up to a year for this. I mean, is it even against organizational rules to have a relationship with a contractor? And if so, it doesn't appear to be a serious violation.
If true, I’m pretty torn. On one hand Ime is an absolute fucking idiot for getting involved with Pagliuca’s close family friend. On the other hand, if she doesn’t even work for the team, it seems like the suspension would be more because of her relationship with Pagliuca than any kind of power dynamic issue. If true.
To be fair here... the incident in question took place 13 years ago, in 2009. Entirely possible that Mazzulla has gotten his shit together since then.
The response, yet, it's a function of anything. There are a lot of things to consider and it's extremely common practice to suspend an employee while an investigation is ongoing. At some point they may need to be defend the termination and the process in court. If their gut is to fire him they'll need to wait for their legal advisors to be completely 100% on board.
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The Lakers would paint his likeness into the court for the 2022-2023 season.
And how many times have you seen careers completely get derailed when details of a past transgression come up?
If the speculation here is true, this ownership group just went nuclear on its own team.
I’m not saying it wasn’t a bad decision. It was but you’re making him out to be Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby
If that's true, it's insanely stupid and he should be suspended none for it, and should sue the team.
This where I am too. Especially given the reputation (perhaps false) of the city and recent LJ comments.
But even if we assume you're bolded is true...one of the main reasons HR would impose a rule along the lines of "no inter office affairs, especially with subordinates" is to specifically avoid the conversation taking place in this thread. NO one knows 100% outside of the two people in the relationship if there was any pressure or manipulation. The rule exists to create a black or white line in the sand to avoid grey areas. As I stated upthread, Ime and the woman in question could end up getting married and it wouldn't alter the fact that he knowingly broke a rule set forth by HR...a rule that most likely is under a headline reading something along lines of "the following list of infractions could be ground for dismissal."
It appears there is a power imbalance, just running in the opposite direction than we would assume.
The Lakers coach is historically allowed to sleep with the owners daughter.
Maybe that's not the right phrase to use but I can't think of a better way to put it. Letting personal relationships outside of the workplace dictate how you run your workplace does not seem like inspiring leadership or sound strategy. And if Wyc is on board or, worse, washing his hands of it, then it looks like nobody wants to be the guy to tell the billionaire owner to mind his own fucking business, literally. And this was a Brad Stevens hire, and I'm sure he isn't thrilled about who his head coach chose for a post-separation relationship, so I don't see him being okay with this decision either.
Making an "I'm the owner. I do whatever the fuck I want." stand right now would be pretty tone-deaf, nevermind counter-productive.
No one called him a serial rapist. It's honestly strange you can't see the gap between this situation and that level of accusation. Your responses are bordering on bizarre at this point dude.
Okay, I read the first "contractor" post as meaning she worked directly for Pagliuca, not for the team. Not much difference, probably.
Has anyone seen anything out there w/r/t what @Caspir posted?
She is white, and he brought that up (along with her faith and the number of kids they have) without me asking, which made me think he was regurgitating something he heard first hand. If his story is true, and I have no reason not to believe him, then there are a few undertones to this that make it feel very gross.
Sorry if this has been covered, but most corporations' code of conduct governs contractors as well as employees.
Not that this matters anymore, but your company's policy is lenient. My company has a ban on relationships between senior/subordinate and any intra-company relationship is supposed to be disclosed.
If she works directly for Steve, there's no power imbalance with Udoka. Udoka doesn't decide whether she gets promoted and such. So fine, maybe Ime knew the rules and kind of has himself to blame and all that, but the deed itself is not inherently gross. So it looks like the owner is suspending him because he's pissed and is enforcing a silly, arbitrary rule. That's how I see it anyway, and I imagine that the players will too.
Yeah, it's fuzzy. I read it as she previously worked directly for Pagliuca but now did work for the Celtics as a business analyst contractor.
I'm not even sure it is out there. This guy is very tightly connected to the team, and it would be a major fuck up if he was saying this stuff to people just to talk. We are not besties or anything, we just happen to talk, so if he told me, he is definitely running his mouth to other people. He would be committing career suicide.
And the fan base. People are going to go apeshit if it turns out that the perfect coach for this team got suspended because Pags is pissed he banged his friend.
