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Kendrick Perkins vs. JJ Reddick



Kendrick Perkins vs. George Karl

 

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I don't think this is necessarily true. Many times it is the airline you charter that requires these things but not all do
I believe it is correct for any commercial jet, which would include a privately chartered jet. The regulations are discussed in this article: https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/active-pilots/transporting-firearms-in-general-aviation-aircraft.

There may be an exception if the gun owner also owns the plane that is being flown (i.e., not commercial), which may be what you are thinking.
 

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Ja has an interview that's going to air on SportsCenter with Scott Van Pelt tonight. In this clip, Jalen Rose directly asks him if the gun was his, and he said no, he doesn't condone that sort of thing. I hope he's not lying, because that will be bad if he is.
 

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Wait, Ja was only in counseling in Florida for one whole day?
He was with the BEST counselor! There is nobody else in the world like this counselor! Let me tell you, this counselor is incredible. He does incredible things. He just counsels like nobody has even done before. He’s the GREATEST counselor like nobody has been before!
 

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I haven't watched much TNT lately, but isn't Shaq like in their studios on a pretty regular basis? Dude seems to be out and about everywhere. Has he really given up all of his gigs and been hiding in his house for over a month?
The process server is just doing a terrible job.
View: https://twitter.com/big12conference/status/1634770615692595201?s=46&t=4A_L8qoKOnofphlcF4_qlQ
View: https://twitter.com/announcerskeds/status/1634798642568544257?s=46&t=4A_L8qoKOnofphlcF4_qlQ
 

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I hate to say it because I loved him as a player, but Pierce is a complete jerk.
 

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He's also one of the worst. With the Kings ascent this year, the Hornets now have the longest active playoff drought, and have made the playoffs twice in his twelve years as an owner.
Definitely. It's also a bad idea to sell the team before you find out if you're drafting Wemby. You'll sell for a lot more if you get the #1 pick.
 

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Definitely. It's also a bad idea to sell the team before you find out if you're drafting Wemby. You'll sell for a lot more if you get the #1 pick.
How much does this really increase a teams market value the way revenue sharing is designed today? The Pelicans and Grizzlies have been the two least valuable franchise per Forbes each year since drafting Zion and Ja, respectively. A teams market is the teams market.
 

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I'm sure the NBA can find new black owners who are also good at owning.
Between the NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB there are 124 franchises……

Michael Jordan is the only black majority owner. I’ll say that the next black owners name will be James and he will own a new franchise in Las Vegas.
 

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I’ll say that the next black owners name will be James and he will own a new franchise in Las Vegas.
Agreed, all indications point to Vegas Bron.

He'll want to take 6 months + 1-day residency in Nevada to save ~14%/year in retirement (CA tax)

The Lebronettes.

Vegas is close enough to Bron's Brentwood estate

NBA retirement gift to the GOAT

Fenway group foots the bill with LBJ as the managing partner
these two articles from last year

 

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Nice article by Kirk Goldsberry on the Corner3

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/35865196/how-corner-3-became-easiest-shot-nba

In 2023, corner 3s are a major part of virtually every NBA offense. Despite the fact that the corners represent just a tiny fraction of the jump-shooting real estate on an NBA court, they now account for a whopping 19.6% of the league's total jump shot attempts.

Aside from shots at the rim, the corner 3 is now the most common field goal attempt in the best basketball league in the world, and the best teams in the league know how to hunt out the shot's efficiency -- and exploit it to open up the rest of the court for the league's biggest stars.

Following the Bulls dynasty, the San Antonio Spurs emerged as one of the league's most innovative and successful franchises. Long before analytics infiltrated the league, Gregg Popovich and his staff recognized the value of having shooters stationed in the corners. The Spurs ranked in the top four in the league in the percentage of their 3-point attempts taken from the corners every single season between 2000 and 2014.

In 2022-23, the average corner 3 has resulted in 1.17 points per shot, and an uncontested shot yields a whopping 1.29 points. Both figures dwarf the value of an average NBA possession. The math is clear: The more clean looks from the corner an offense can generate, the better, and the shot has become a reward for strong half-court actions.

There are two reasons the corner 3 has proved to be so valuable. First, these are among the greatest shooters in the universe. Second, the shot conditions are optimal. Virtually the only time these players even shoot the corner ball is when they are open, have their feet set and receive a pass from a teammate.

"You normally don't see a lot of people take corner 3s off the dribble," 76ers forward PJ Tucker told ESPN. "It's more of a catch-and-shoot shot."

More than 91% of this season's corner 3s have qualified as catch-and-shoot attempts according to Second Spectrum tracking. Why does that matter? NBA shooters have converted 36.7% of catch-and-shoot 3s since 2013-14 while only making 32.1% of their off-the-dribble attempts, according to Second Spectrum.

Much of the legendary efficiency of the corner 3 owes to the simple fact that it's almost always taken by a good shooter with a clean look. Meanwhile, since 2013-14 an average layup attempt in the NBA has yielded 1.17 points on average according to Second Spectrum. For the league's best shooters, corner 3s aren't equivalent to layups -- they are superior.

The NBA's 3-point line is 23 feet, 9 inches from the rim at the top of the key and on the wings, but that distance shortens to 22 feet in the corners because otherwise players wouldn't have enough room to both stand behind the arc and stay in bounds.

From a pure distance standpoint, the corner 3 represents a simple optimization strategy. By stashing one or even two shooters in the corners, NBA offenses can stretch out the width of opposing defenses and open up room in the middle of the floor.

The Dallas Mavericks offense around Luka Doncic looks a lot like the D'Antoni-Harden industrial complex that Houston used last decade. The Mavs don't have Tucker, but they do lead the NBA in corner 3s this season, hoisting up nearly 12 of them per contest as Doncic does his uncanny Harden imitation on a nightly basis. Reggie Bullock has emerged as the Mavs' version of Tucker, making 44% of his 168 corner 3 attempts this season. His 74 makes from the corners trails only Mikal Bridges for most in the NBA -- but it's still far behind the 102 corner 3s Doncic has assisted on.

Though he ranks eighth in total 3-pointers made, James will not go down as one of the better 3-point shooters in league history. Still, like Bowen, he will be forever linked with the rise of the corner 3 -- just for a very different reason. More than 95% of corner 3s are assisted and no player has been on the passing end of more of those shots than James. While no single shooter in NBA history has converted more than 900 corner 3s, James has assisted on 1,590 and counting.
Creating a corner 3 is a modern art form, and that makes James the Picasso of the movement. Creating an open look from the corner generally requires a teammate creating chaos and forcing the opposing defense to collapse away from a catch-and-shoot threat. Nobody in the modern NBA has compromised defensive shapes as much as James, who is the greatest playmaking superstar pro basketball has seen since Magic Johnson. Along with some sharpshooting teammates, James has helped pioneer the corner revolution. It's no coincidence that five of the 11 most prolific corner 3 shooters of all-time have shared the floor with James.

In his first seven seasons in the NBA, Boston Celtics center Al Horford made a total of 10 3-point shots. This season he ranks third with 62 made corner 3s. It's been a remarkable metamorphosis that epitomizes a key trend that has unfolded during Horford's tenure: Virtually every player can stretch the floor and shoot now. Even bigs.
 

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Ringers/Simmons bad NBA Contracts Draft

1. Ben Simmons
2. Brad Beal
3. Duncan Robinson
4. Davis Bertans
5. Rudy Gobert
6. KAT
* Lonzo Ball was moved from "BAD" to "SAD" category
7. John Collins
8. Trae Young
9. Jordan Poole
10. Evan Fournier
11. Tobias Harris
12. DeAndre Hunter (partially dinged by Red Velvet move)
13. Michael Porter Jr
14. Kyle Lowry
15. Rashaun Holmes
16. Zion Williamson
17. Dame Lillard
18. Zach Lavine
19. Jonathan Isaac
20. Marcus Smart (that will make some folks Big MAD)
21. Jusuf Nurkic

Honorable Mentions:
Devonte Graham, Rudy Gay, Daniel Theis, Marvin Bagley, Norman Powell, Kevin Porter, Gordon Hayward, JaVale McGee, Johnny Davis, PJ Tucker
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndCTlsw7U7M
 

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Ringers/Simmons bad NBA Contracts Draft

1. Ben Simmons
2. Brad Beal
3. Duncan Robinson
4. Davis Bertans
5. Rudy Gobert
6. KAT
* Lonzo Ball was moved from "BAD" to "SAD" category
7. John Collins
8. Trae Young
9. Jordan Poole
10. Evan Fournier
11. Tobias Harris
12. DeAndre Hunter (partially dinged by Red Velvet move)
13. Michael Porter Jr
14. Kyle Lowry
15. Rashaun Holmes
16. Zion Williamson
17. Dame Lillard
18. Zach Lavine
19. Jonathan Isaac
20. Marcus Smart (that will make some folks Big MAD)
21. Jusuf Nurkic

Honorable Mentions:
Devonte Graham, Rudy Gay, Daniel Theis, Marvin Bagley, Norman Powell, Kevin Porter, Gordon Hayward, JaVale McGee, Johnny Davis, PJ Tucker
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndCTlsw7U7M
I am very surprised Simmons has continued doing this considering his previous “drafts” have aged like complete shit.

I’m not a very big Bradley Beal fan (I think I am more down on him than the consensus here, I was never interested in trading Jaylen for him) but I think it’s crazy to have him ahead of Duncan Robinson, Davis Bertans, and Rudy Gobert. My guess is that they included the no-trade clause in this ranking?

Also, I think they have Poole too low.
 

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I am very surprised Simmons has continued doing this considering his previous “drafts” have aged like complete shit.

I’m not a very big Bradley Beal fan (I think I am more down on him than the consensus here, I was never interested in trading Jaylen for him) but I think it’s crazy to have him ahead of Duncan Robinson, Davis Bertans, and Rudy Gobert. My guess is that they included the no-trade clause in this ranking?

Also, I think they have Poole too low.
Agree with Poole, just on the sheer length of the contract and how it affects Dray & Klay. The power of POINTZ overpays on full display after one good season.

I think there is a fair amount of needling between Bill, Wosny Lambre, & Joe House and their teams (Charmin Celtics :eek: Smart, is playing injured). So I'd take this as more schtick with a hair of truth.
 

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Half of that list is just a bunch of guys who got injured. In the case of Zion, I guess you could have predicted it, but sometimes dudes just get hurt.
 

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Half of that list is just a bunch of guys who got injured. In the case of Zion, I guess you could have predicted it, but sometimes dudes just get hurt.
Not really. In their schtick they purposely excluded Lonzo Ball as a SAD, not BAD contract.

KAT has missed a lot of time over the last 4 seasons. He is making $283MM over the next 6 seasons (incl this year). Isaac is never healthy, so that's probably more SAD than BAD. NOLA had no choice on the contract but Zion will always be an injury problem, much like TimeLord. The rest are sizeable contracts that they figure won't age well.
(ie clearly Dame is a great player but they are saying $258MM and Father Time is a bad mix)

Jason Timpf on The Volume's NBA Tonight recently ranked AD #8 in his NBA TOP10 (he's a Laker fan so his delusion is excused). Do Anthony Davis' injuries just happen (unlucky) or part of the AD package? I'd hate to have him on my team on his next extension regardless of the next TV deal/CAP bump.
 

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KAT has missed a lot of time over the last 4 seasons. He is making $283MM over the next 6 seasons (incl this year).
Yet they could still trade him today for positive value. Same goes for Beal. And Lavine. And Poole and Trae and Collins and Porter Jr. and Zion and Dame

This list is terrible even by terrible standards.
 

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I think Beal is properly rated there. He's the 4th highest paid player in the league this year, the NUMBER 1 overall contract and has a no trade clause.... that's insane, particularly when you consider his level now.
LEBRON has him at 58th, DARKO has him at 50th, RAPTOR has him at 68th.
 

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Also, unsure how Bertans is that high. Yes, it is a bad contract, but after this year it is only a 1 year, 17 million, with a 5 million buyout in 2024/2025
 

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Also, unsure how Bertans is that high. Yes, it is a bad contract, but after this year it is only a 1 year, 17 million, with a 5 million buyout in 2024/2025
I don't understand the pushback on this list. Simmons usually puts pretty rigorous, well researced analysis around every bit of content he generates. No doubt he spent countless hours converting dollars to wins etc.

Even if a player is on a "bad" contract, what does it really mean? Teams can and do trade these players fairly often. Maybe they have to staple something to them but its not like they are albatrosses or anything given the cap structure.
 

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Also, unsure how Bertans is that high. Yes, it is a bad contract, but after this year it is only a 1 year, 17 million, with a 5 million buyout in 2024/2025
Simmons pretty clearly read it wrong based on what he said in the video, the thought it was 2/33 left.
 

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Is Smart's contract really that bad? Three years left at less average annual salary than Grant Williams is hoping to make. He's making less than Brogdon.

And the team seems to have the flexibility to move him to backup PG or trade him, if his play doesn't recover.
 

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Is Smart's contract really that bad? Three years left at less average annual salary than Grant Williams is hoping to make. He's making less than Brogdon.

And the team seems to have the flexibility to move him to backup PG or trade him, if his play doesn't recover.
No it's fine, that was just them tweaking Simmons.
 

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I don't understand the pushback on this list. Simmons usually puts pretty rigorous, well researced analysis around every bit of content he generates. No doubt he spent countless hours converting dollars to wins etc.
I mean, we will argue about just about anything in here, so it shouldn't come as a surprise. And the reason people generate lists like these is to foster debate.

I am unsure how much time Simmons actually spends on these things though. He got the Bertans thing way wrong, and that was a pretty obvious thing to catch.
 

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Yet they could still trade him today for positive value. Same goes for Beal. And Lavine. And Poole and Trae and Collins and Porter Jr. and Zion and Dame

This list is terrible even by terrible standards.
This is ultimately what it comes down to for me. In order to trade any of these contracts would you have to staple value to them.

Off that list, you definitely would for Duncan Robinson (I think he’s the worst contract in the NBA). I think you would for Poole and Fournier.

Beal, LaVine, Trae, MPJ, Zion, Dame are all definitely getting multiple 1sts back in return
 

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I don't understand the pushback on this list. Simmons usually puts pretty rigorous, well researced analysis around every bit of content he generates. No doubt he spent countless hours converting dollars to wins etc.

Even if a player is on a "bad" contract, what does it really mean? Teams can and do trade these players fairly often. Maybe they have to staple something to them but its not like they are albatrosses or anything given the cap structure.
Im not sure if the first paragraph is sarcasm or not but I would bet a lot of money that the process for this was coming up with a list and sending it to friends over text and seeing if there was any pushback. I am almost 100% confident there were 0 hours spent converting dollars to wins or any sort of deep dive like that