iPhone 6 - BFD

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wutang112878 said:
 
How long can you really go before you figure out your phone is lost?  I'd know in like 4 hours max
 
So 2 hours after a typical iPhone goes dead?
 

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EddieYost said:
Just deposit $66 a month into a savings account.  Over the course of the year that should be enough to buy 2 nice but used iPhone 5s (How do I make 5s plural?).  If everyone takes care of their really expensive phone, you have a bunch of cash at the end of the year.  If the risk is really that high for family members breaking/losing there phone... maybe they don't really need the latest and greatest smartphone?  *ducks
 
Yes to the above. And the cost of the insurance is just not worth it no matter which way you look at it. If they drop their phone and the screen breaks it's cheaper to just get the screen repaired when you consider the deductible on the insurance. And when you look at the yearly cost of the insurance, as someone mentioned upthread, it's just not worth it.
 
Just tell them if they break the phone they will get a used, older model. They will take better care of it.
 

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NortheasternPJ said:
5.8 gb for the fucking IOS 8 update? Seriously? That's the best you can do apple? What a joke. 
 
It doesn't actually use up that much space, but it needs the space to unpack the files and update. If you aren't near a computer to plug in and use iTunes to run the update, you can just reset your iPhone if you have a fresh backup on iCloud to restore from after the update. I did the reset, update and restore thing on my 16 GB iPad. My phone had plenty of room, and after updating and setting messages to clear after 30 days it'll definitely keep my usage constrained enough to move back to a 16 GB phone.
 

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...and beyond that, I can't even install SwiftKey. WTF.
 
There's no section for third party keyboards in the keyboard section. It's almost like iOS doesn't recognize I've installed it. Whatever.
 

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when 80% or whatever of your phones you sell are 16gb, it's a flat out bad user experience to expect users to do that. It's only getting worse with every single update. I'm fully versed on how updates work but 5+ gb, seriously? Apple preaches itself on user experience, this is just poor.
 

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when 80% or whatever of your phones you sell are 16gb, it's a flat out bad user experience to expect users to do that. It's only getting worse with every single update. I'm fully versed on how updates work but 5+ gb, seriously? Apple preaches itself on user experience, this is just poor.
I thought that if you update via iTunes you do not run into this issue? 
 

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Tony C said:
anyone have a sense of which of these is best?
 
 
Not sure about the rest, but Swype was amazing on the Droid 3 years ago, like amazing and I'm sure its been improved.  Take the 99 cent plunge and if you dont agree I'll refund your money
 

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
And....my phone has completely crashed. 
 
I backed everything up and hooked up to iTunes to do the update and after 15 minutes of downloading the package and shit, phone is now in recovery mode and after about ten attempts, cannot get it to restore. Awesome. 
 
What kind of error message is it giving you?
 

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I'd try another computer if you have one available. If not I'd quit iTunes, delete the downloaded software update file, and relaunch iTunes and try starting the whole restore process all over again from the start.
 
On a completely unrelated note, iOS 8 seems much more aggressive with the default training of the automatic screen brightness. It goes far dimmer in a dark room than it used to. I wish OS X Yosemite would do the same thing, my MacBook stays a lot brighter than necessary in dim light conditions.
 
Also new for iOS 8 is the "Hey Siri" when plugged in thing instead of holding the home button, which didn't seem useful to me until I realized that it would be active when I plug my phone in while driving. That's pretty neat for anyone who doesn't have a car with a voice control button on the steering wheel that supports launching Siri.
 

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Tony C said:
anyone have a sense of which of these is best?
 
 
I have Swype and SwiftKey on my Android phone.
 
So I'm an idiot. I'd downloaded "SwiftKey Note" which does NOT contain the keyboard, and I can't see any of those things in the App Store. Baffling.
 
EDIT: And it just popped up. WOOO! SwiftKey here we go!
 

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I posted this in the other thread earlier today, but figured it would help some of you if I cross-posted it:
 
1Password is free for iOS today (normally $9.99).  I think it goes back to it's regular price mañana.
 

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woohoo!  I just refreshed my order page and my iPhones now have tracking numbers (UPS 2-day Air) next to them.  I've refreshed it all day waiting for this.  I saw that my card was charged on Monday, so I guess I'll be getting them on Friday.  I waited until pretty late in the day on the 12th to place the order, so I wasn't expecting good news.
 

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This made me go back and check my bill. I have a Mobile Share Value plan on AT&T, am not using Next, and my per line price is listed as $40 a month, followed by a $25 credit for "Discount for Mobile Share Value Savings" (so in effect the per line price is still $15). Do I just have a good deal?
It is currently $15. If you pay $200 and get a 2 year contract iphone 6 your price will increase from $15 to $40.
 

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Fratboy said:
I have Swype and SwiftKey on my Android phone.
 
So I'm an idiot. I'd downloaded "SwiftKey Note" which does NOT contain the keyboard, and I can't see any of those things in the App Store. Baffling.
 
EDIT: And it just popped up. WOOO! SwiftKey here we go!
Why both? And do you use SwiftKey for all typing, or just one handed? It seems faster for single handed typing, but slower than double thumbs for two handed (since I can't figure out how to two-thumb swipe).
 

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Tony C said:
anyone have a sense of which of these is best?
 
 
I've been using Touchpal for a couple years and love it. Can't beat it for the price.
 

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Installed iOS 8 to play with it for a couple days before I get my new phone. Buggier than usual for a day 1 release it seems.
 

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Enjoying enhanced Spotlight search and SwiftKey so far.  Anybody who can advocate for another of the new 3rd party keyboards, I'd love to hear about it. 
 

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Yea, it's awful. I really hope there's a 8.0.1 release that fixes this.
The camera roll was useless - all the photos are in the Photos app. Camera roll was just a duplicate way to show them.
 

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canderson said:
The camera roll was useless - all the photos are in the Photos app. Camera roll was just a duplicate way to show them.
Right, but the organization of those photos sucks now. That's what we're complaining about.
 

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Probably unrelated, but immediately after syncing my iOS 8 phone with my Macbook Air, the computer has crashed and can no longer locate the boot drive.
 
Have to do a fresh install it seems.
 

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Right, but the organization of those photos sucks now. That's what we're complaining about.
The camera roll was a stream of unfiltered photos itself, I don't see the big deal myself. To each his own.
 

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I like that when double-tapping the home button it brings up recent contacts with the option to call, email or text them. I suppose it only saves an additional step, but still kind of cool.
 

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mt8thsw9th said:
Camera roll is just called "Recently Added". I'm not sure what the difference is.
If you've got over 1000 photos, and only 100 are recently added, it's a pain. I have almost 3 years of photos now separated by date. It's tedious to scroll through them all to find what I want.
 

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I have to admit I like the way my older photos are now categorized -- makes it easy to find something from way back.
 
And thanks for suggestions on the keyboards. Will try the free one and Swype and go from there.....
 

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What Steve Jobs Got Wrong About the iPhone
 
This article leaps to some conclusions with little evidence wrt Jobs, but I sound this bit interesting.
 
 
By 2013, however, executives within Apple began to rethink that. Internal documents from that time show that iPhone sales growth was slowing, even though the market as a whole was growing. All the growth was in the sub-$300 price range and among phones with screens bigger than 4 inches. "Consumers want what we don't have," was the title of one slide in the documents.
 
Another document showed that Apple's own customers placed the small screen size of the iPhone 5, 5C, and 5S among their top complaints about the devices. The iPhone's small screen size actually seemed to be a liability for Apple, not--as Jobs argued three years earlier--an advantage.
 

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TheShynessClinic said:
If you've got over 1000 photos, and only 100 are recently added, it's a pain. I have almost 3 years of photos now separated by date. It's tedious to scroll through them all to find what I want.
 
How often do you access them? It's easy to back them up through the Google+ app and access them there if you need to quickly pull up a picture from 2011 or 2012. 
 

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Yaz4Ever said:
woohoo!  I just refreshed my order page and my iPhones now have tracking numbers (UPS 2-day Air) next to them.  I've refreshed it all day waiting for this.  I saw that my card was charged on Monday, so I guess I'll be getting them on Friday.  I waited until pretty late in the day on the 12th to place the order, so I wasn't expecting good news.
On this same note, I just checked UPS after seeing your post and my phone is now in Ontario, Ca.
 

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On this same note, I just checked UPS after seeing your post and my phone is now in Ontario, Ca.
 
Do you have Verizon? I'm pretty sure they have a distribution warehouse there.
 

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The Google + auto backup is outstanding.
Yup. Google+ is pretty worthless except it's the best photo storage site out there.
 

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bowiac said:
Yup. Google+ is pretty worthless except it's the best photo storage site out there.
I feel like I must be missing a major component here. I downloaded the app for both my iPad and iPhone just now. And while it backed up all the photos on each, the following applies.

1) I can't see my backed up iphone photos on the iPad app and vice versa.

2)deleting a photo on the iPhone also deletes it from google+.
 

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Investor 11 said:
I feel like I must be missing a major component here. I downloaded the app for both my iPad and iPhone just now. And while it backed up all the photos on each, the following applies.

1) I can't see my backed up iphone photos on the iPad app and vice versa.

2)deleting a photo on the iPhone also deletes it from google+.
I don't know the answer to this, but I have witnessed neither of these behaviors. There's gotta be a setting off somewhere.
 

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If you have iPhoto on your iPhone or iPad you can probably delete it. It's been deprecated and most of the features are within the Photos app itself.
 

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I just did the iOS8 upgrade on my 5S, that was one of the more frightening/harrowing experiences of my digital life.
 
The backup completed, then the upgrade failed.  My computer appeared to have concurrently lost the ability to use any of the USB ports (eventually realized didn't matter what I plugged into it, thumbdrive, USB HD, another mouse, whatever), right in the middle of the wipe-out-old-phone / replace-with-new-OS step.  Nice.  I didn't realize that was what was happening so I followed a YouTube video to put the phone in DFU mode so that it could be recognized by iTunes to complete the upgrade, but alas, the computer was really just not doing any USB anything at all, just completely dead on the USB ports.
 
I did a Windows update, perhaps not my finest moment but was suggested as a first step.  That crashed on the "updating, please do not shut off your computer" stage, and I had to power it off.  After the reboot I decided to try to finish the Windows update for fear it was in some unstable state, which started to work pretty well, until it also crashed telling me that I had a DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE error.  On the next restart, it got stuck at 82% complete for about 15 minutes.  I walked into the other room and started freaking out, feeling pretty powerless.  (Mind you, my iPhone is still a brick at this point, showing the iTunes logo and a suggestion to plug in the lightning cable on its screen, only adding to my anxiety)
 
I came back in and it mercifully finished the windows update this time.  I then followed some directions and disabled an "automatically power down this USB device when not being used" check box that Microsoft in its infinite wisdom decided to default to ON in some Windows 8.1 (or later) patch (thanks Microsoft!), and now my USB ports started working again.  There is a litany of reports of all kinds of devices that get totally hosed by this check box (including some iPhones).
 
So, fire up iTunes and start to restore the phone from backup.  Apparently the most recent phone backup was now iOS8, even though I did an iOS7 backup this morning in anticipation of this - some how it created an iOS8 backup during the upgrade process (!!!), not the iOS7 one that I was expecting to revert to.  When my phone next reboots I have iOS8, no wallpaper, no apps (I think I had 200+ apps installed), but it does have my contacts and calendars.  Little did I know that they made this a 2-stage update, first the firmware then the apps get synced by iTunes.  I was staring at a phone missing 200 apps and there was no way to revert to a backup (at least that I could see).  Jesus H Christ, I thought I was totally screwed, again.
 
Then it started to update the apps and I realized it was going restore everything, but not before almost totally losing my shit for the 2nd time in 2 hours.
 
Bartender, shot please!
 

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