Said before, but I have a feeling this is true:
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Jets HC Saleh Fired
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Rodgers loves Hackett. There's no way AR didn't get Saleh fired before his OC got canned.
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It’s crazy not only he got his coach fired but that quick too. Like he levied the charge, got the warrant and oversaw the execution in like 12 hours.
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Sounds like Ulbrich is going to demote Hack as Saleh would have. I buy this more.
Sounds like Ulbrich is going to demote Hack as Saleh would have. I buy this more.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Of course he'll blame the dysfunction on Jets culture when this also fails. And no one being held accountable as he...refuses to take accountability.
He wasn’t angling to join the Jets in particular; he was angling to get out of Green Bay, for reasons that were never entirely clear. The Jets were one of the few teams interested in giving up a draft pick for the privilege of absorbing Rodgers’s massive contract. I don’t know that he could have engineered a better landing spot without leaving a lot of money on the table.
I get a newsletter from Mike Tanier and his one today is all about Rodgers and the Jets and boy howdy it is good reading:
That’s some great writing. Haven’t heard of Tanier but I like his style.
I loved every word. Fantastic…
‘There is no reason for a capricious despot to keep up appearances’
Great stuff.
And that's why he goes on (or went on) with McAfee, who validated Rodgers's every move, thought and utterance.
Imagine an athlete (and a damned good one at that) being so fucked up that "I was right" is more important than "I am the best."
Great. That certainly settles that. Not just false, but patently false. Should have thrown in a "strenuously".
He is appealing to the ‘humanity’ of the situation. Using Saleh’s son as a shield (re: potential embarrassment/bullying he may face at school).
"The rumors are patently false. Patents do not run forever. There is an expiration on them unless they are maintained. So the falsity of the claims - like patents - have an expiration. At which point they are true. Now they are not true. But they will be, someday." -Aaron Rodgers, probably.
I am so happy to be rid of Saleh that all of the anti-Johnson and 8 takes fall flat for me. I can’t pinpoint the day I turned on him and it’s not like I think he is a bad guy but he is a horrible leader of a team. All the shots at Woody, shit, I’ve made them myself, but I’m not making them over this. Imagine Fireman Ed as the head coach. That’s what we had.
I mean, if Fireman Ed was one of the best defensive scheme creators in the league I think he'd be a decent coach.
Saleh didn't appear to be a great head coach. On the other hand Johnson is pretty clearly a terrible owner, and the Jets are running a terrible offense from 10 years ago because their QB doesn't want to run a modern offense with motion.
Pretty much. Seems like a good dude, but it wasn't working and he was running the show. Coach's league and the Jets don't have them. Wasn't just Saleh, of course.
Sir Elton and Bernie's adaptation will make us all forget "Candle in the Wind."
I feel like I should apologize to his parents for thinking they were to blame for that kerfluffle regarding his relationship choices years ago. Although they did raise him.
Sure. in the same way Bill Belichick just watched Friends in his offense while the DCs came up with the scheme.
Saleh is the Crennel in this situation, not the BB. I mean, Ulbrich was hired in the first place because he was a Dan Quinn assistant coach. This goes back to Legion of Boom shit. All the downstream guys added some flavor to it. How bad did SF get when Saleh left?
I mean, if you think Robert Saleh a guy who was hired because of his success as a defensive coordinator, whose team runs the same scheme he ran in SF isn't doing anything you are just so tied to disliking the guy that you aren't being reasonable.
You mean when they hired Demeco Ryans?
Since Ryans got hired as head coach the defense hasn’t been nearly as good as under Saleh and Ryans.
Incredible that a guy that has won 2 games as a Jet has this power. At least LeBron got the Lakers a championship. Does Aaron Rodgers have an adult son?
If he was forced to defend his denial under oath, he would say "I played no role in his firing. I am the quarterback, not the owner or GM. I regularly expressed my opinions to the owner of the team about him. What the owner did with that information is out of my hands."
I’m getting a little lost in what we are talking about so let’s take a step back. Do you think Saleh was a good HC?
I think it's impossible to tell. I think his defenses were excellent and he wasn't allowed to pick the offensive coaches. I'm fine with firing him, but I think the idea that he's the biggest problem is misguided given where the team is failing and his involvement.
Even at lower levels of football, assistant coaches do the vast majority of actual coaching. The head coach is responsible for hiring and retaining the right set of assistants. He is also responsible for culture and strategy. (Recruiting is also a big part of the job at lower levels of the sport, but obviously not in the NFL.)
Saleh never had a chance in New York. There isn’t a coach in the history of the league who could’ve won with Zach Wilson as his QB. Once Rodgers arrived, Saleh didn’t have much say over the offensive side of the ball, unless you think Saleh wanted Hackett as his OC. Can’t do much culture creation, or strategy beyond stuff like whether to go for it on 4th down, when you’re being undermined in that way.
The defense, where Saleh got to pick his own assistants and wasn’t hamstrung by bad talent selection, was excellent. That’s not surprising, as Saleh was an outstanding DC in San Francisco. The Jets are probably right that changing head coaches is their best chance to salvage something from what’s left of the Rodgers Era, but I disagree with @luckiestman that Saleh is a bad coach who deserved to be fired. Whether Saleh can be a good head coach is an open question, imo.
Saleh never had a chance in New York. There isn’t a coach in the history of the league who could’ve won with Zach Wilson as his QB. Once Rodgers arrived, Saleh didn’t have much say over the offensive side of the ball, unless you think Saleh wanted Hackett as his OC. Can’t do much culture creation, or strategy beyond stuff like whether to go for it on 4th down, when you’re being undermined in that way.
The defense, where Saleh got to pick his own assistants and wasn’t hamstrung by bad talent selection, was excellent. That’s not surprising, as Saleh was an outstanding DC in San Francisco. The Jets are probably right that changing head coaches is their best chance to salvage something from what’s left of the Rodgers Era, but I disagree with @luckiestman that Saleh is a bad coach who deserved to be fired. Whether Saleh can be a good head coach is an open question, imo.
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One thing that doesn't track for me on the theory that Rodgers approached Woody to save Hackett before Saleh demoted him: I get that Rodgers likes Hackett, but why didn't Rodgers follow Hackett to Denver when he had the chance? Rodgers clearly wanted out of Green Bay at that point.
Instead he left Hackett out to dry in Denver, overpaying for the miserable year of Russell Wilson.
Instead he left Hackett out to dry in Denver, overpaying for the miserable year of Russell Wilson.
@mauf Saleh hired all of his assistants when he got here. MLF was let go after two years (probably a mistake). Not clear to me that he wasnt involved in hiring of all the Titans guys either on that side of the ball. It was covered at the time as Saleh hiring them but that could have been misreported.
Maybe he knows Hackett would be a lousy HC; or that if he's the HC, he's got larger responsibilities than being Rodgers's sock puppet.
i live in ashland oregon where rogers goes to do his retreat..........please dont send him here
Saleh’s record is what it is, but having been stuck with Zack Wilson for much of that record, it’s hard to fully, fairly evaluate him. Had the rest of the season gone south, he’d be fair game to be replaced in January . But this is an absurd, clown show firing. Being done to appease a HOF, but clearly declining, high maintenance diva who’s won 2 games in 2 years for the franchise. If they win Monday night, they’re in first place FFS. Were I a Jets fan, I would not be good with this.
Saleh was 4-13 against the spread in non-conference games. I find that to be damning for him.
His team never outperformed. Quite the opposite, actually. I think it's pretty easy to tell, he was not a good coach.
evidently you just watched "a few good men lol i strenuously object your honor
Sorry, why are we limiting it to non-conference games? What is that supposed to speak to?
Time for joke help, last year I said if the Jets made the playoffs I was going on a darkness retreat
When Saleh and Zach joined up I joked about converting to Mormonism or Islam depending on the day.
I can’t grow a beard as sweet as Ulbrich so I don’t know what I’m on the hook for if he gets them to the playoffs.
When Saleh and Zach joined up I joked about converting to Mormonism or Islam depending on the day.
I can’t grow a beard as sweet as Ulbrich so I don’t know what I’m on the hook for if he gets them to the playoffs.