Jets HC Saleh Fired

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

The 2024 Jets: Retreating To Darkness

 

[DanoooME]

That’s fine. The problem with Hackett even doing everything Rodgers wants is that the operation was slow. They need to get the plays in quicker. Rodgers is going to pick from whatever 3 plays he is given regardless.

Why do they have to even send in a choice of plays? He should know the playbook well enough to just call stuff. That's on him. Except he doesn't accept responsibility for anything.

Has he gotten so lazy in his old age that he doesn't even study the playbook any more? Wouldn't surprise me actually with his narcissism.

 

[Garshaparra]

Has he gotten so lazy in his old age that he doesn't even study the playbook any more? Wouldn't surprise me actually with his narcissism.

Hard to read in the dark.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Has he gotten so lazy in his old age that he doesn't even study the playbook any more?

You don't think he believes everything he reads, do you?

 

[Tony C]

I thought these stats from an article in The Athletic were startling

the Rodgers question scares me. Among qualified quarterbacks, he ranks 27th in EPA/dropback and 21st in dropback success rate, according to TruMedia. The most concerning thing about the Jets’ passing offense at the moment is that Rodgers ranks 28th in EPA/dropback when facing no pressure. The only quarterbacks worse in that category this year are Will Levis, Deshaun Watson, Gardner Minshew, Bo Nix and Bryce Young. If you can’t move the ball efficiently with clean pockets, well, that’s not a great sign.

Making matters worse, the run offense has stalled out, too. The Jets rank in the bottom five in the league in EPA per rush attempt and in the bottom 10 in rushing success rate.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5831567/2024/10/10/nfl-projection-jets-bengals-dolphins-playoffs/

I knew and have seen AR hasn't been good. But can still see that his arm is quite good, so put a lot of his struggles on combination of old (and injured) legs and pressure -- am surprised by the #s with a clean pocket.

 

[mauf]

I would very much appreciate that.

Talon’s Squared Circle in P&G.

 

[Jace II]

It doesn't matter. Anyone who calls plays is going to get told to fuck off by Rodgers anyway. Just admit Rodgers will be doing all the play calling. And dragging the team into the abyss.

Not sure they ever really exited the abyss in the past 14 years, so honestly I would say he's dragging them laterally through the existing abyss. The funny thing is that the division is bad so the distance from the abyss to the top is narrow currently

 

[dynomite]

I thought these stats from an article in The Athletic were startling


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5831567/2024/10/10/nfl-projection-jets-bengals-dolphins-playoffs/

I knew and have seen AR hasn't been good. But can still see that his arm is quite good, so put a lot of his struggles on combination of old (and injured) legs and pressure -- am surprised by the #s with a clean pocket.

Same.

I'd be interested to know -- and sorry for not being able to look this up myself -- what the numbers were in Brady's 1st season in Tampa when they were 7-5 at their bye week and there were calls to fire Arians (as I remember it). I remember hearing people say that Brady had lost it when he lost track of the downs against the Bears that season and the Bucs lost in Chicago.

Again, unfortunately for him, Aaron Rodgers isn't Tom Brady, so not sure how relevant this is but just curious.

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

View: https://twitter.com/briancoz/status/1844382874998616456

 

[Tony C]

Thought this tidbit on the new OC was interesting

Downing is very similar to Hackett in that neither has a history of success as an offensive coordinator — Downing took over an offense that finished second in points per drive the year before and finished 21st in the same metric in his two seasons as Titans offensive coordinator in 2021-2022. Both coordinators have historically called static offenses. Unless Downing has made big philosophical changes in his time away from play calling, the Jets’ offensive structure should look similar.

AR is the de facto OC, anyway...but be interesting to see if they move away from some of the static strategies on which AR has insisted. Or if more of the same old same old. Really no excuse for the Jets not to be a playoff team. Weak division, very strong defense, some good offensive talent, pretty light schedule, and AR still shows his quick arm so should be able to be at least competent. But the offensive strategies have to change from what AR wants.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Thought this tidbit on the new OC was interesting


AR is the de facto OC, anyway...but be interesting to see if they move away from some of the static strategies on which AR has insisted. Or if more of the same old same old. Really no excuse for the Jets not to be a playoff team. Weak division, very strong defense, some good offensive talent, pretty light schedule, and AR still shows his quick arm so should be able to be at least competent. But the offensive strategies have to change from what AR wants.

Yeah, as a number of commentators have noted, Rodgers has always hated motion, LaFleur convinced him to work with it and he won 2 MVPs, but then he wanted out and back to what he likes to do over what has been most effective for him.