So if Oakland hangs on today, next week actually has potentially huge wild card implications. An Oakland win would vault them past the Jets in the standings.
Jets Week
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Didn't know the etiquette of pats' game threads.RIrooter09 said:
Pats won fair and square. Our punter was garbage but not as bad as your wrs so I can't gripe. The biggest laugh I got all day was when some poster in your game thread said "Belichick looked confused" that was good stuff. There is no way I could have said anything more troll-y but I think he was serious.
He is WR3 on the jets. I wouldn't be too fired up. He does have the greatest QB ever throwing to him and the best TE ever having defenses all screwed up trying to defend. Pats are the best of the AFC but this might not be a top 10 Pats team of the past 15 years. Still might be enough to win it all.RedOctober3829 said:
luckiestman said:
The Jets lost, but you won. Nicely done.
Apart from the last five minutes, I thought Bowles and the Jets were very impressive. They run a ton of Cover 0, which is a great schematic idea when you have Darrelle Revis. That's gonna work against a lot of teams, and while it didn't beat the Patriots, it came closest.
Also, props to Kenny F'ing Powers, who basically nailed the game plan and came up just a few throws short of prediction.
They also had 3 offensive linemen and their best RB missing. Again, they had 18 offensive players active, had 10 drops, ran the ball 5 times , and scored 30 on a good defense. Jets played about as good in the passing game as possible and still couldn't win.luckiestman said:
I'm very down on the league this year. You got the 6 SB teams(4-2). The 02 team and Cassell team are worse. The team that had the flu in Indy was better I thought. That's 7. It's close isn't it? I thought the team that lost the Saturday night playoff game in Denver was really good in the second half of the season.Ed Hillel said:
Edit: I thought the team that lost to Baltimore was really good and the team the Jets beat too
Maybe they'll get healthy and things will change.
luckiestman said:
Isn't the league usually some variation of this, though? Granted, the Pats have had a lot of good teams over the years, but Brady is playing as well as ever--it may be the best offense he's ever commanded--and the defense is still ok. This is the first time they've had issues with 3rd and long this year; I'm not really sure what it was. I personally thought they were far too timid with the pressure, but what do I know? I wouldn't expect them to continue to have such problems, at least not at the rate it happened today.
No way this team comes close to the 2006 team btw. That defense was certainly better, but Brady had absolutely dreadful talent at the skill positions. I'm not sure I would say the 2001 team was better, even though they won the SB. Winning the SB is hard, and takes a combination of depth, consistency, and luck. Without the Tuck Rule, would you say that 2001 team was better? It was the right call, but just making a point. The 2003 and 2004 teams were among the best ever assembled, though. We all know about 2007...
There is some truth to the cliche that good teams find a way to win even on days they play poorly. I'm happy with this win. They just seemed off for most of the day, but also seemed to keep confident and, well, do their job. It's an important division win.
Can somebody with better Xs and Os skills than I speak to why the Patriots were successful at stopping the Jets running backs? It seemed more than just the fact that Ivory was a bit tweaked.
Can somebody with better Xs and Os skills than I speak to why the Patriots were successful at stopping the Jets running backs? It seemed more than just the fact that Ivory was a bit tweaked.
The 2011 Pats team was extremely flawed as well. It's still early as hell in the season but I don't think it's an automatic that they're a better team simply because they went to the Super Bowl.Ed Hillel said:
The front 4 did a great job of stuffing the offensive linemen and kept them off 54 and 91. It allowed them to roam free and make a combined 22 tackles. Branch, Brown, and Hicks did a great job.dbn said:
luckiestman said:
"Belichick looked confused" is right there with "TB just quit on the New England Patriots" from last year as the most ridiculous things that have been said in SoSH football gamethread history. We should all know better...
Wasn't the BB looking confused thing actually said in the booth, and people in the thread were (I hope) mocking it?
That looks more like what the fuck is going on. For confused, see Jim Caldwell or Jim Tomsula.kieckeredinthehead said:
I think I'm going to go read my copy of education of a coach again and have a few tears about what might have been.kieckeredinthehead said:
Bill Belichick...confused during a football game... that's a good one.
Greg Bedard with a really fine breakdown of the third-and-17 pass to Edelman
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/10/25/nfl-week-7-patriots-jets-tom-brady-julian-edelman
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/10/25/nfl-week-7-patriots-jets-tom-brady-julian-edelman
E5 Yaz said:
Maybe this is copy editing or whatever, but a team isn't in position to finish another off up 4 on third down with nearly eleven minutes left. Nor is that team, as per Bedard, "in the cross hairs."
Disagree, the Pats don't convert and they are in. a world of hurt. Jets had scored last two possessions using 10+ minutes of clock. Pats D was gassed
I actually agree with him that the league feels weak this season.Ed Hillel said:
Last season 10 of 16 AFC teams finished above .500, with 6 winning 10+ games.
Right now there are 5 AFC teams over .500. (Pats, Bengals, Broncos, Jets and Steelers). And it's not like everyone is 3-3 -- there are already 7 AFC teams that are either 1-5 or 2-5.
It's starting to feel like a bad Conference this year.
Edit: And I'm going to wait until December before judging how the 2015 Patriots compare to prior versions. Still, according to FO here are some numbers:
- 2015: 44% DVOA (#2 in NFL prior to this week)
- 2014: 22.5% (#4)
- 2007: 52.9% (#1)
- 2004: 34.2% (#2)
Some of the numbers are a little surprising. This team being ranked so far above last year's is... Odd.
I think instead of a bunch of so-so to good teams, you have the haves and the have nots.
Haves: Pats, Colts, Bengals, Jets (combined 22-2, .917)
A few mediocre teams: Steelers, Dolphins, Raiders (combined 10-9, .526)
And the rest are have-nots: Bills, Titans, Texans, Jaguars, Ravens, Browns, Chargers, Chiefs (combined 15-39, .278)
Haves: Pats, Colts, Bengals, Jets (combined 22-2, .917)
A few mediocre teams: Steelers, Dolphins, Raiders (combined 10-9, .526)
And the rest are have-nots: Bills, Titans, Texans, Jaguars, Ravens, Browns, Chargers, Chiefs (combined 15-39, .278)
Didnt a very similar stat come out just a few weeks ago as well? Or was that some completely different "Brady succeeding at close to 100% of the time, while the rest of league cant even tread water at under 20%"?JohnnyK said:
Omar's Wacky Neighbor said:
Or what DrewDawg says below.
Three weeks ago, the stat was:
There have been 11 games this season, so far, with 49+ pass attempts by a QB going a combined 1-10. Brady was the lone win (Bills).
Since then, Brady has won again with 54 attempts (Jets), but I don't know about the rest of the league.
I do recall there being a similarly crazy stat for career, but I can't find it.
There have been 11 games this season, so far, with 49+ pass attempts by a QB going a combined 1-10. Brady was the lone win (Bills).
Since then, Brady has won again with 54 attempts (Jets), but I don't know about the rest of the league.
I do recall there being a similarly crazy stat for career, but I can't find it.
PFF's game finder is the best tool for this sort of thing.djbayko said:
It looks like there have 20 games with at least 49 pass attempts in 2015. Brady's 2-0, the rest of the league is 2-16.
Here's one.
As of yesterday's game, Tom Brady improves to 16-7 when throwing 50+ passes. The next best winning percentage is Dan Marino at 5-11.
As of yesterday's game, Tom Brady improves to 16-7 when throwing 50+ passes. The next best winning percentage is Dan Marino at 5-11.
Everyone else in that cohort abandons the run when they are losing too badly and passes to try to catch up.
The Patriots come out from the opening snap and throw.
What I mean is, everyone else is doing it because their game plan is failing. The pats pass 50 times when their game plan is working.
The Patriots come out from the opening snap and throw.
What I mean is, everyone else is doing it because their game plan is failing. The pats pass 50 times when their game plan is working.
Stolen from reddit, because it's a really good diagnosis of a play:
http://a.video.nfl.com/films/2015/NFL_NOW/in-game-highlight/NFL_NOW/REG/7/151025_nfl_ghl_nyj_vs_ne_brady_to_chandler_26_yards_326529_2000k.mp4
http://a.video.nfl.com/films/2015/NFL_NOW/in-game-highlight/NFL_NOW/REG/7/151025_nfl_ghl_nyj_vs_ne_brady_to_chandler_26_yards_326529_2000k.mp4
Goodness yes. Basically I totally butchered that post didn't I? Meant to say Denver in the first group and totally forgot to put Indy in there where I meant to.amarshal2 said:
I ran the numbers again yesterday. Including playoffs Brady is 16-7 with 50+ pass attempts. Every other QB since the 1970 merger are combined 101-375. And Marino's 5 wins are the 2nd most by a QB. Unreal.
