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June 5th 6pm: MLB Draft Game Thread
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My cousin's kid, Sean Newcomb, from the University of Hartford is projected in mock drafts to go anywhere from 5th to 12th in the first round. Big, hard throwing lefty. What to watch for? He does not want to play for Seattle (6th pick) or Toronto (9th and 11th) for whatever reasons a kid decides.....My guess is Mets at 10.
http://www.courant.com/sports/baseball/hc-sean-newcomb-uhart-0605-20140604,0,7375600.story
http://www.courant.com/sports/baseball/hc-sean-newcomb-uhart-0605-20140604,0,7375600.story
A college bat makes sense.
Of the late first round types I've seen in the mock drafts I've read, I think I'm most interested in Monte Harrison, toolsy prep outfielder with a commitment to play football at Nebraska. Plus power and arm, a hit tool described as coming along quickly. RHH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFl7XdrqwjM
Of the late first round types I've seen in the mock drafts I've read, I think I'm most interested in Monte Harrison, toolsy prep outfielder with a commitment to play football at Nebraska. Plus power and arm, a hit tool described as coming along quickly. RHH.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFl7XdrqwjM
Historically, do college bats project out better than high school bats?
One would surmise that a college bat (age ~22) would be closer to "major league ready" than a high school bat (age ~18) - but is there more advantage in drafting a high school player who hasn't used up four years in college ball? While I think it would be especially true for pitchers, due to arm mileage, can the benefit of college ball be directly correlated to time in the low minors? If so, to what level?
What's a reasonable time frame for a first round college player to make the majors as opposed to a first round high school draft pick? Just a general answer, as I realize there are the rare few "major league ready" draft picks.
It seems like organizations (and fans too), tend to sour on prospects if they haven't showed they're major league ready by the time they are 24 or so. Middlebrooks went from phenom in 2012, to "he can be a solid player if he lays off certain pitches" in 2013, to "no future with the team" in 2014. Lars Anderson and Michael Bowden are other recent prospects who were highly regarded whose stock plummeted rather quickly.
Basically, if this is true aside from my observations, it gives college picks about two years to so they can contribute, while high school picks get six years.
(All this aside, if they can get a college bat that they think can contribute sooner than later, I am all for it. This team needs offense, now and in the immediate future.)
One would surmise that a college bat (age ~22) would be closer to "major league ready" than a high school bat (age ~18) - but is there more advantage in drafting a high school player who hasn't used up four years in college ball? While I think it would be especially true for pitchers, due to arm mileage, can the benefit of college ball be directly correlated to time in the low minors? If so, to what level?
What's a reasonable time frame for a first round college player to make the majors as opposed to a first round high school draft pick? Just a general answer, as I realize there are the rare few "major league ready" draft picks.
It seems like organizations (and fans too), tend to sour on prospects if they haven't showed they're major league ready by the time they are 24 or so. Middlebrooks went from phenom in 2012, to "he can be a solid player if he lays off certain pitches" in 2013, to "no future with the team" in 2014. Lars Anderson and Michael Bowden are other recent prospects who were highly regarded whose stock plummeted rather quickly.
Basically, if this is true aside from my observations, it gives college picks about two years to so they can contribute, while high school picks get six years.
(All this aside, if they can get a college bat that they think can contribute sooner than later, I am all for it. This team needs offense, now and in the immediate future.)
Hank Scorpio said:
In almost every mock that I see, they have the Sox picking a college bat at #33:
33. Red Sox: A.J. Reed, 1B, Kentucky
If Boston doesn't grab a college hitter at No. 26, it could take one here in Blandino or Reed. The Red Sox also are on seemingly every high school pitcher mentioned in this projection, in addition to St. Thomas More High (Lafayette, La.) catcher Chase Vallot.
33. Boston Red Sox: Alex Blandino, 3B, Stanford
After going high-risk, high-reward with a prep arm a few picks earlier, the Red Sox could look at the top college hitters here. With Reed and Gillaspie gone, Blandino might be the pick.
Callis' pick: A.J. Reed, 1B, Kentucky
Just for variety, here's today's si.com mock selection:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20140605/mlb-mock-draft-2014-brady-aiken-carlos-rodon-tyler-kolek/#ixzz33nsBi1tb
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20140605/mlb-mock-draft-2014-brady-aiken-carlos-rodon-tyler-kolek/#ixzz33nsBi1tb
RedOctober3829 said:
Any thoughts why the Sox would target a college bat rather than just go BPA?
Close-to-the-majors bats doesn't seem like a much larger organizational need than anything else (even if perhaps more specific areas within that description, i.e. close-to-ready outfielders, might be seen as a weak spot in the system). I thought the Sox were regarded as an organization that sticks to BPA at all times.
I'd prefer they just stuck to BPA.
Possibly a dumb question, but what's BPA stand for? (If it's "batting practice arm", we have a few of those right now.)
Just as an aside, our #33 draft pick is compensation for Jacoby Ellsbury - who was drafted as compensation for Orlando Cabrera - who was acquired by trading Nomar Garciaparrra - who was drafted 20 years ago (1994). Kind of makes you feel old - but I still find that sort of thing fascinating.
Just as an aside, our #33 draft pick is compensation for Jacoby Ellsbury - who was drafted as compensation for Orlando Cabrera - who was acquired by trading Nomar Garciaparrra - who was drafted 20 years ago (1994). Kind of makes you feel old - but I still find that sort of thing fascinating.
Question: Can teams now trade up in this draft? For example, Middlebrooks + 1.26 for 1.1? (yes, that's a hypothetical example).
Would love any combination of Hoffman, Fedde, Hill, Harrison, Freeland, Gatewood, Davidson or Howard. Then again, I was stoked when the Sox picked Denney last year.
Hee Sox Choi said:
No. I think the only picks that can be traded are competitive balance picks.
Which, I think, is a total bummer. I think trading picks is one reason (admittedly, not the biggest reason) that the NFL draft is more closely followed than the MLB draft, and allowing it would be a good way to drive up interest in the draft.
Does anyone know where a good place to follow the picks is?
MLB doesn't seem to understand what a "DraftTracker" actually is.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2014/drafttracker.jsp
MLB doesn't seem to understand what a "DraftTracker" actually is.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2014/drafttracker.jsp
Ha, with that montage opening, I can totally understand those old school A's scouts saying "He LOOKS like a baseball player."
nvalvo said:
Thanks.
Looks like MLB has changed the link now that the draft has started.
Houston has apparently been super secretive about their first pick and they are looking for slot value so it will be interesting to see what they do. It will set the tone of the whole draft.
Bigpupp said:
Selig is at the podium giving opening remarks, including a few words on Zimmer.
Edit: As Selig concluded, the Astros went on the clock.
Overall, is this draft class considered much weaker than the 2013 class? Seemed like more hype overall last year, with players like Appel, Gray, Bryant, Frazier and Meadows (who I personally wanted, instead of Ball). Not quite sure if the class is weaker, or if there was just more hype around here with the Sox having the #7 pick.
ForceAtHome said:
He ruins everything doesn't he? Except for the whole making billions of dollars thing.
Hank Scorpio said:
The conventional wisdom is that this class is deep, perhaps deeper than '13, but without the same consensus top player, Mark Appel style.
I'm glad they didn't do it right away... The 1 hour preview simply wasn't enough bullshit for me.ForceAtHome said:
There was more hype last year for sure. There's no bat with the talent of a Kris Bryant in this draft while the hype around Appel and Grey were very high. Rodon struggled this year so there's really no hyped pitcher from college. Aaron Nola is very good but not great. I think the college pitcher with the highest upside is Sean Newcomb. He has the body, throws from the left side hard, and is rather raw. But he is Jon Lester-lite at this point.Hank Scorpio said:
I honest to god can't believe Harold Reynolds has a job. It's insane. I understand he was a major league ball player, but he has absolutely no fucking idea what he is saying about these prospects.
Within seconds of each other on Twitter, two baseball people are saying they have "word" the Marlins are taking different people.
I mean, even if you like him for spouting platitudes before/ after/ during a major league game (blech), why is he here? There is no way he has any insight on this subject, and this is an event a viewer is more information-dependent than your average game.SouthernBoSox said:
It really is odd how many MLB broadcasting doors just keep swinging open for him.
I'd hope he has Matt Harvey written all over him for the 2 pick. Minus the TJ although it may be inevitable.Eck'sSneakyCheese said: