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kenneycb

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“‪@Buccigross‬: I’m hearing candidates for the @AnaheimDucks head coaching job are being told Randy Carlyle will be the choice. Coached their 5+ years.”

Good news for the pacific division
 

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Had to attach a real asset in TT to dump Bickell. Bickell's contract is far worse than Seidenberg, but the cost of moving Seidenberg scares me.
 

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What I don't understand is why they didn't just buy him out. $1m cap hit this coming season, $1.5m next season... they could have trimmed around the edges enough with not retaining a guy like Kruger at $3.083m. Instead they ship out a legitimate 21 year old top 6 talent on the last year of his ELC.

Doesn't help that they moved Dano for Ladd at the deadline.
 

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I believe the thinking -- which had even become clear with the Dano deal -- is that after the 2016-2017 season, they need to pay Panarin big money. They wouldn't have been able to pay Dano or Teravainen. They were going to have move BOTH of them after the upcoming season, thus they decided to move early on both, to solve a big need/problem. Not much use hording "assets" when ultimately money would have kept them from playing a big role.

Carrying even $1.5 million for Bickell next year probably made it a lingering problem, one that put Panarin at risk (perhaps).

But, damn, giving up Johns and Teravainen to move Sharp and Bickell is a big price to pay.
 

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The fact they have those assets to move is a good sign. Of course, it's absurdly difficult to ensure it lasts but when you have two of the top 10 players in the league and decent enough depth, you can extend the window for a long time. Looking back, the draft was really the downfall is the B's. They couldn't make those moves or replace fringe guys.
 

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The only explanation I can think of is they're overpaying him to be a backup just to get to the cap floor.
 

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The only explanation I can think of is they're overpaying him to be a backup just to get to the cap floor.
They just showed, with Chicago, that they can get value along with a bad contract. Hell, call Dallas and take a goalie plus a 3rd round pick, if that's what they are trying to do. You could be right, but it seems silly to just hand out money.
Maybe there's some maneuvering to make a goalie of the future ineligible for the expansion draft?
 

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Home opener's being announced.

B's appear to open the season at Toronto on 10/13, then play @ Columbus 10/15. Home opener is 10/20 against NJD.
 

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Maybe it's just me but does anyone think the trading of negotiating rights is stupid? I feel like at this point they should just have to go to free agency
 

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Holy overpay. Leafs trade #30 this year and their 2nd rounder next year for Fredrik Andersen.

I dunno, they still have 11 picks including the #1 and two second rounders. The extension is a big bet, but it's still just the 16th highest cap hit for a goalie and those are only going up. They've had playoff-worthy seasons sunk in recent years by having Vesa Toskala out there and Reimer getting hurt so I don't really hate this for them. Goalies seem interchangeable and easy to find until you don't have one.
 

PedroSpecialK

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It's a calculated risk for sure, the $5m v. $5.5m makes a decent difference as well. I just thought they could get away with getting someone at a cheaper price once the expansion crunch hits (especially seeing as they won't be competing this year). You make a valid point though in that they had so many picks, that it may not hurt them much.

In other goalie news, sounds like Bishop may be headed to Calgary:

 

kenneycb

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Or more likely they like what they have in Vasilevskiy and don't want to lose one of them for nothing in the expansion draft.
 

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But it doesn't come remotely close to proving your point, especially since this offseason is a bit of an anomaly with regards to teams with two good goalies.
 

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McKenzie says those rumors are BS

“Is it possible the Tampa Bay Lightning could trade netminder Ben Bishop? Yeah, absolutely it’s possible. I would have told you that during the Stanley Cup playoffs. They’ve got a cap crunch coming in Tampa, with or without Stamkos. Ben Bishop is a year away from unrestricted free agency. They’ve got a tremendous goaltender, a young goaltender in Vasilevskiy, who played very well in the playoffs. They’d be foolish not to explore their options. That’s not a news story. That’s not a flash.

“Now apparently some dim bulb in Tampa has started to say that ‘there’s reports out of Canada that Calgary has a deal in place for Ben Bishop,’ which, if they do, it’s news to me. I certainly didn’t say that, and I’m not aware of anybody else who did either.

“But I do believe the Tampa Bay Lightning will listen on Ben Bishop, and may well be in a position at some point to trade him. Maybe not. Maybe they’ll go in a different direction. But it’s certainly one of a number of options they’d consider. Just like Pittsburgh would consider a Marc-Andre Fleury trade, and a lot of teams are going to be looking at goaltender trades, especially with an expansion draft coming up.
http://www.todaysslapshot.com/from-the-ice/mckenzie-skewers-dim-bulb-tampa-bishop-rumor/
 

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Salary cap will be at $73m this coming season with $54m as the floor.

As it stands today, that's $20m to make up for the Coyotes. Sounds like they're close on Goligoski for $5.5m and have ~$6-8m additional coming to their RFA/Arb guys but man... Chayka will have room to get creative.
 

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Salary cap will be at $73m this coming season with $54m as the floor.

As it stands today, that's $20m to make up for the Coyotes. Sounds like they're close on Goligoski for $5.5m and have ~$6-8m additional coming to their RFA/Arb guys but man... Chayka will have room to get creative.
Trading for Pavel Datsyuk's $7.5 million cap hit would help close that gap immensely.
 

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The Arizona Coyotes have addressed one of their biggest off-season needs, signing defenceman Alex Goligoski to a five-year, $27.375 million US deal.

Arizona acquired Goligoski's negotiating rights in a trade with Dallas last week and brought him out for a visit. Goligoski liked what he saw and so did the Coyotes, taking one of the top free agent defencemen off the market.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/arizona-coyote-alex-goligoski-1.3647366
 

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"Reasonable" price. I would think that would set Yandle's market, right? Definitely puts a ceiling for Krug.
 

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It was always going to be a trade anyways. Shattenkirk/Trouba/Lindholm or bust. Jason Demers is basically the best UFA defenseman left.
 

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Glad we didn't get stuck with that contract. Now go get Shattenkirk.
He's reportedly looking for $6.5m AAV on his next deal. That's a real tough sell for me, especially as advanced numbers and his sheltering in St. Louis have him right around Krug's value.

Acquiring one of Dumba/Brodin, re-signing Liles, buying out Seidenberg, and shipping out McQuaid would be an acceptable 'miss' on a big fish so to speak for me.
 

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I am higher on Yandle than most. I liked him as a backup plan on July 1st as they desperately need more mobility and transition offense from the back end. Now they are painted into a corner. I am terrified that they don't pull off a trade and then panic into giving Kris Russel $5 mil a year.
 

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He's reportedly looking for $6.5m AAV on his next deal. That's a real tough sell for me, especially as advanced numbers and his sheltering in St. Louis have him right around Krug's value.

Acquiring one of Dumba/Brodin, re-signing Liles, buying out Seidenberg, and shipping out McQuaid would be an acceptable 'miss' on a big fish so to speak for me.
Why buy out Seids? Isn't he an important unprotected asset for the expansion draft?
He is going to be an expensive 5/6 d man but I think you bite the bullet for this season.