Is anybody else listening to Felger and Mazz? They are reporting Krejci was extended for 7 years for $43m. It's from some Czech newspaper.
Krejci extension?
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Very reasonable numbers if true. Timeline would be about right, Chiarelli usually locks the core guys entering their final contract year right training camp/early in the season.
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https://twitter.com/HackswithHaggs/status/507285742029406209
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 14m
According to report of Czech, David Krejci has agreed to 6-yr, $43 million contract extension http://www.hokej.cz/sest-let-za-vic-nez-43-milionu-dolaru-david-krejci-ma-v-kapse-novou-pohadkovou-smlouvu-s-bostonem/?1=rw …. Not confirmed from B's
https://twitter.com/HackswithHaggs/status/507285742029406209
Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs 14m
According to report of Czech, David Krejci has agreed to 6-yr, $43 million contract extension http://www.hokej.cz/sest-let-za-vic-nez-43-milionu-dolaru-david-krejci-ma-v-kapse-novou-pohadkovou-smlouvu-s-bostonem/?1=rw …. Not confirmed from B's
link to story
Google translates:
He won the Stanley Cup twice was best in playoff scoring. Forward David Krejci in overseas NHL drafted among the top stars and now for the hard work reaped great rewards in the form of a new contract. Twenty-eight native Sternberg was still valid at year contract, but already signed the new - significantly improved. "David concluded Bruins with a new six-year contract," said Jiří for hokej.cz Hamal of Global Management Group, which represents Krejčího.
The event is a fresh and former junior player Třince or positive and very pleasant. David Krejci early summer during the announcement of the Golden stick saying that it can be negotiations on a new contract even before the original expires. As it turned out, it was an accurate estimate. The Bruins the Czech ambassador appreciates, negotiations are already at the destination.
Exactly a week ago, said general manager Peter Chiarelli that David Krejci (resp. With his agents) began talks on a new form of contract. "We are interested in further cooperation, we will act," Chiarelli said that indicated the same willingness and the other party. The participant of the Olympic Games in 2010 and 2014 he lived in Boston all the current NHL career, Krejci has repeatedly confirmed that the organization is satisfied.
Since the same was true with his performances in the eyes of club bosses, debate on the form of a new contract quickly. The ratios in the league thus certainly famous. The original contract was to expire Czech attacker after the 2014-15 season, a year he secured income of $ 5.25 million. Terms of the new agreement are even more interesting, is a negotiated contract.
"David, six-year contract ensures at least $ 43 million, both sides agreed to it. Agreement is confirmed," said George Hamal. Krejci then can rub their hands. In June said that the new contract could be his last in the NHL. This is probably not the case, the contract is in any case comparable to those in the NHL have others similarly successful and productive hockey players. One of the best Czech player, thanks to the closed contract year comes to more than seven million dollars.
Google translates:
He won the Stanley Cup twice was best in playoff scoring. Forward David Krejci in overseas NHL drafted among the top stars and now for the hard work reaped great rewards in the form of a new contract. Twenty-eight native Sternberg was still valid at year contract, but already signed the new - significantly improved. "David concluded Bruins with a new six-year contract," said Jiří for hokej.cz Hamal of Global Management Group, which represents Krejčího.
The event is a fresh and former junior player Třince or positive and very pleasant. David Krejci early summer during the announcement of the Golden stick saying that it can be negotiations on a new contract even before the original expires. As it turned out, it was an accurate estimate. The Bruins the Czech ambassador appreciates, negotiations are already at the destination.
Exactly a week ago, said general manager Peter Chiarelli that David Krejci (resp. With his agents) began talks on a new form of contract. "We are interested in further cooperation, we will act," Chiarelli said that indicated the same willingness and the other party. The participant of the Olympic Games in 2010 and 2014 he lived in Boston all the current NHL career, Krejci has repeatedly confirmed that the organization is satisfied.
Since the same was true with his performances in the eyes of club bosses, debate on the form of a new contract quickly. The ratios in the league thus certainly famous. The original contract was to expire Czech attacker after the 2014-15 season, a year he secured income of $ 5.25 million. Terms of the new agreement are even more interesting, is a negotiated contract.
"David, six-year contract ensures at least $ 43 million, both sides agreed to it. Agreement is confirmed," said George Hamal. Krejci then can rub their hands. In June said that the new contract could be his last in the NHL. This is probably not the case, the contract is in any case comparable to those in the NHL have others similarly successful and productive hockey players. One of the best Czech player, thanks to the closed contract year comes to more than seven million dollars.
Not so fast on Carl leaving just yet. If he can show the level of play he had at Center during the end of the year at the Wing position, it could really open things up for the Bruins. They could then give Spooner the pivot with Yeti and Kelly flanking him, but Carl would have to show he (1) is ok with moving to the wing, and (2) that he an be as effective. It will be fascinating to watch how they handle that third line this year, and that level of competition might prove fruitful when the regular season starts.Ed Hillel said:
I'm ok with the deal if it's true. $7m per year is market rate, and with Toews getting $10m you have to think the Bruins got him at a decent rate. I think it's solid all around, and as easy as it is to fall in love with Carl or Spooner, the backbone of this team has always been depth at Center and that was always due to having Bergeron and Krejci as their top two. It's smart to keep that core intact.
I wonder if this is the same paper that broke the Jagr deal. That would give it some credibility.
I hope it's 7/43, not 6/43. But either deal is palatable.
I hope it's 7/43, not 6/43. But either deal is palatable.
TheRealness said:
I love the Yeti unconditionally and he's my 1B binkie to Bergy's 1A, but irrationality aside, I think he's a phenomenal player and provided he continues his high-level play from late last year, I would love to see the B's keep him for several more years.
6/$43m would be fine if there are minimal NTC/NMC conditions.
And if there's a full NMC, I'd still be glad to have him in the fold at a sub-$7.5m AAV. I love Söderberg's game, but there's still somewhat of an unknown there in terms of performance against top d-pairings.
Krejci has shown he can put up great numbers considering Julien's system and his postseason contributions. Heck, if they're going to try and fit Spooner in, why not try out a top 9 of:
Söderberg - Krejci - Eriksson
Lucic - Bergeron - Smith
Fraser - Spooner - Marchand
And if there's a full NMC, I'd still be glad to have him in the fold at a sub-$7.5m AAV. I love Söderberg's game, but there's still somewhat of an unknown there in terms of performance against top d-pairings.
Krejci has shown he can put up great numbers considering Julien's system and his postseason contributions. Heck, if they're going to try and fit Spooner in, why not try out a top 9 of:
Söderberg - Krejci - Eriksson
Lucic - Bergeron - Smith
Fraser - Spooner - Marchand
https://twitter.com/wyshynski/status/507309036912386048
David Krejci, Bruins agree on 6-year blockbuster deal, and you're nuts if you hate it
Six years and $43.5 million for the center, who was entering the final year of a 3-year, $15.75-million deal he signed in Dec. 2011. So the Bruins have him locked up for the next eight years.
Aaron Ward of TSN adds that he’ll have a full no-move clause in the first four years and a limited no-trade in the last two years.
The bottom line: The Bruins have two outstanding centers under contract for a long, long time.
Bergeron is elite. Krejci is right there at the top of that next tier, with players like Nicklas Backstrom. It’s an unmatched one-two punch in the Eastern Conference for the Bruins, save for Crosby and Malkin.
No matter what happens with Chara as he ages out of the NHL or the comings and goings of the supporting cast in Boston, they can now building around two great centers and a goalie through 2021.
And that’s a pretty damn sturdy foundation.
David Krejci, Bruins agree on 6-year blockbuster deal, and you're nuts if you hate it
Six years and $43.5 million for the center, who was entering the final year of a 3-year, $15.75-million deal he signed in Dec. 2011. So the Bruins have him locked up for the next eight years.
Aaron Ward of TSN adds that he’ll have a full no-move clause in the first four years and a limited no-trade in the last two years.
The bottom line: The Bruins have two outstanding centers under contract for a long, long time.
Bergeron is elite. Krejci is right there at the top of that next tier, with players like Nicklas Backstrom. It’s an unmatched one-two punch in the Eastern Conference for the Bruins, save for Crosby and Malkin.
No matter what happens with Chara as he ages out of the NHL or the comings and goings of the supporting cast in Boston, they can now building around two great centers and a goalie through 2021.
And that’s a pretty damn sturdy foundation.
Damn, my drawers just got salty and wet. I'm not skilled enough on NHL salary cap mechanics to know how this affects the team's flexibility, I just like that Krejci's coming back, his bed-shitting performance against the Habs notwithstanding. Is it safe to assume that this is no worse than market rate for a player of Krejci's caliber?
I am nuts according to Puck Daddy's tweet, but I hate it. Not so much the length or even the AAV but the NMC. I think the Bs are deep at center, have glaring needs at other positions, and this reduces their flexibility going forward. Good player (I would argue his skill set is not as scarce as some of his salary comparables), bad contract. Better than bad player, bad contract, but this isn't what I would've done.
It is a NMC for 4 years, do you plan to trade him in the next four years? Who would you replace him with?erfus said:
His defensive game is underrated because of how great Bergeron and outside of last year he has been a great playoff performer. I don't think you could replace his skill set for less than this deal.
Guys get traded with NMC clauses all the time. If it were a bad situation in 3 years. I have no doubt the Bruins can/will figure out a way to move him if they had to, It is a bit more than I would have given him, but really I am not going to argue 6.5 instead of 7.17
Hard to believe it is the same kid who looked skilled, but utterly physically overmatched in his first time through the league, to the point where he looked like he was going to get killed on a shift by shift basis
It will be interesting to see who is next up to the plate. I think Chiarelli will have discussions with Soderberg, and who knows they may be able to make a deal. The other guy who seems like a natural for a long term deal is Dougie Hamilton. Assuming he comes into camp in top shape, I'd look to get his name on a 6 or 7 year extension, you'll easily save 2 mil a year over the long haul if you can get the extension now
Hard to believe it is the same kid who looked skilled, but utterly physically overmatched in his first time through the league, to the point where he looked like he was going to get killed on a shift by shift basis
It will be interesting to see who is next up to the plate. I think Chiarelli will have discussions with Soderberg, and who knows they may be able to make a deal. The other guy who seems like a natural for a long term deal is Dougie Hamilton. Assuming he comes into camp in top shape, I'd look to get his name on a 6 or 7 year extension, you'll easily save 2 mil a year over the long haul if you can get the extension now
PedroSpecialK said:
A top line of Soderberg, Krejci, Eriksson makes sense. Eriksson is a natural candidate for the top line, but I would hate to break up the Soderberg/Eriksson chemistry.
Is Marchand on the way out of town?
Krejci's probably already past his peak and this is a long deal. He'll have the 15th-highest cap hit among forwards when the deal kicks in. Fine if he stays close to his performance level but it's pretty risky.
If I were in charge, I wouldn't have done it, but I'd have done a lot of things differently so whatever, can't say it's unexpected. Lucic will get a lot of money in a long-term deal next year too. Just hope they have enough space left to keep Hamilton through his prime, which is possible if they don't waste money on replaceable or old guys (Kelly / Seidenberg) and the cap keeps going up.
If I were in charge, I wouldn't have done it, but I'd have done a lot of things differently so whatever, can't say it's unexpected. Lucic will get a lot of money in a long-term deal next year too. Just hope they have enough space left to keep Hamilton through his prime, which is possible if they don't waste money on replaceable or old guys (Kelly / Seidenberg) and the cap keeps going up.
Silverdude2167 said:
BigMike is correct, it may not be such a huge deal but I don't like the restrictive nature of that NMC or being subject to the whims of the player. To answer your question, I fundamentally don't like the talent mix in the forwards at the moment and would've looked to make a "hockey trade" over the summer. Easier typed than accomplished, but I'm disappointed they haven't added some dynamic aspects (speed, snipe) to the wing mix. I also think that center is the strongest part of their prospect pipeline and would've been more risk tolerant at that position than most fans that I'm hearing from. At this point, I have to wonder what they're going to do with Spooner and Koko who don't seem to profile well at wing based on their size and playing time in Providence.
I like Krejci, just not as much as this contract and not where the team is in the big picture.
Toe Nash said:
I don't know if Krejci is past his peak
On thing I like about him long term is he has never been a player who achieves because of his physical skills. He is not bigger, stronger, faster than the other guys. He is smarter than most, and has exceptional hands, and vision. Those attributes don't tend to get old.
Now of course if his physical skills which have always been average, degrade to the point where he is less than average, then it may make him Brad Richards
krejci is 28 years old. Since when is 28 past your prime? Usually your prime is considered to be around 27 or 28 to 32 or 33.erfus said:
Studies are mixed but they have pretty much all shown that forwards peak somewhere between 25 and 27 and start to drop relatively sharply around 30. It doesn't mean that Krejci is going to suddenly collapse, but his best days are likely behind him.BoSoxFink said:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/when-nhl-players-peak-hockey-metrics-1.2646054
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2014/3/13/5500522/nhl-scoring-stats-rates-age-analysis
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2014/05/27/why-nhl-players-peak-before-age-28-or-29/
Peak SCORING performance.
My (purely pulled from my ass) estimation is in line with BigMike. Krejci gets most of his points by setting up other players and isn't as depending on him scoring the goals himself. As a result his decline (if any) will probably be less dramatic than someone who is more of a goal scorer.
Lucic I think will age horribly. Marchand probably too. Players like Bergeron, Krejci, etc less so.
My (purely pulled from my ass) estimation is in line with BigMike. Krejci gets most of his points by setting up other players and isn't as depending on him scoring the goals himself. As a result his decline (if any) will probably be less dramatic than someone who is more of a goal scorer.
Lucic I think will age horribly. Marchand probably too. Players like Bergeron, Krejci, etc less so.
The studies include +/- as well and show the same thing. They are also PPG, not goals, so they would include assists. Any player can buck the trend but this is what we have.TheShynessClinic said:
Brad Richards is a scary comp. He was more productive than Krejci when he signed his deal. I think true star players whose best strength is passing age well (like Oates or M Savard) because that skill doesn't really decline, but I am not sure Krejci is quite that level. Including playoffs, Krejci is a career 0.762 points per game, while Savard was 0.87 for his career. I feel like Savard was a better offensive player though.
I think Krejci will be close to this level of performance for a while, and as I said he doesn't seem a likely candidate to collapse. But I don't see him getting any better either.
TheShynessClinic said:
At the risk of getting off topic too far I agree completely, esp with Lucic. I'm not sure I'd be all that upset if he walks in 2016 because someone is going to give him big money.
cshea has brought this up before, but it's hard to compare PPG averages across the league when you are comparing Bruins forwards to other teams. The Bruins historically under Julien have spread the TOI around more liberally. A metric like Points per Minute or Points per Shift might be a better gauge of Bruins forwards than anything else. We've seen over and over again examples of player points being depressed under this coaching staff due to a number of variables. There almost has to be a factor calculated in when comparing the points of Bruins players to other teams in the league.Toe Nash said:
EDIT: Just looking at TOI/G stats on NHL.com, you can see 4 of the top 5 TOI/G forwards are centers. You have to go all the way to the 52nd ranked player to find the first Bruin (Krejci) with the next 2 Bruins at 89 (Iginla) and 96 (Bergeron). There is a huge disparity in TOI #'s when you talk about the Bruins vs. the rest of the league. Only 3 guys in the top 100 TOI/G.
The Napkin said:
This being the Krejci thread...
I think Lucic is hugely a product of who he has played with. Savard, Kessel, Krejci. It's not that often that Lucic creates his own offense. Krejci really does make his line mates look good. The 2010 playoffs serving as the key evidence.
I'm glad we have him for the next 7 years, even if his play does slip a bit. By the time his play starts slipping, his contact will account for less than 8% of the cap (assuming normal growth). I think we can all live with that for stability at the position.
OK, fair point.FL4WL3SS said:
Krejci was 35th among forwards in p/60 in 5-on-5 in 13-14 (min 500 minutes played). For the few years before that he ranked 60th, 23rd, 11th. For the 4-year period from 10-14 he's 17th. So maybe the 17th overall cap hit is close to right, though if you just take the last 3 years he's 28th.
I wasn't really talking about comparing him to the league though, but rather whether he was likely to age well.
Would it be fair to say that his game could age better than some others? He is not speed based and one of his biggest strengths is his vision and passing not his shot.
Maybe he will age better because he does not rely on things that should fail with age like say speed.
Hopeful thinking?
Maybe he will age better because he does not rely on things that should fail with age like say speed.
Hopeful thinking?