Kyrie is an antisemite. And we have schadenfreude?

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Wasn't Kyrie looking for a contract this summer that would guarantee that he didn't need to play more than 60 games? Part way there.

What an awful human being.
 

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Is it possible the last few days have been to establish conduct detrimental to the team legally in order to suspend him indefinitely WITHOUT pay? I mean that's the part I notice in that statement.

 

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At least he won't even have to go awol to celebrate his sister's wedding this year. I'm not sure what the stipulations for his reinstatement are but I'm pretty sure he'll do roughly zero of them.
 

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I figured Silver was going to suspend him next week when they met in person. My assumption would be this is the Nets trying to save face (good luck).

wouldnt be surprised if he’s done.
 

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At least he won't even have to go awol to celebrate his sister's wedding this year. I'm not sure what the stipulations for his reinstatement are but I'm pretty sure he'll do roughly zero of them.
They will parse those however they want depending on what they want to happen. "Attend sensitivity training and come to some understanding about the painful things he said" would be code for "we are sending him away for 2 weeks till this blows over." Kind of like a politician gets a DUI and immediately goes to rehab.

Until I see some terms, I'll think of this as "Kyrie gets a 2 week vacation"
 

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They spoke up plenty during BLM--this is wrong. What might be right though, is that anti-semitism doesn't feel real to most NBA players in the way anti-blackness does. I'm going to bet damn near every Jew the average NBA players knows is a rich guy. "Hey, they don't seem like they have it so bad."
With the caveat that I haven’t lived in the neighborhood for a while, all any Net would need to do to see Jewish families buying formula with SNAP cards is hang out at the Target across the street from the Barclays Center on a Sunday morning. You know, do their own research.
 

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Given that this suspension seems open ended and contingent on Kyrie actually like... doing things to prove he isn't an anti-Semite... it seems to me that this is the end of his basketball career. Because he is an anti-Semite and I can't seem him actually apologizing for it and actually making amends.
 

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Given that this suspension seems open ended and contingent on Kyrie actually like... doing things to prove he isn't an anti-Semite... it seems to me that this is the end of his basketball career. Because he is an anti-Semite and I can't seem him actually apologizing for it and actually making amends.
He really has become the Kanye of the basketball world, hasn’t he? The similarities between them are eerie.
 

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Ime decides chilling out at half pay for a year is a better option than the Nets at this point
 

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Could LeBron sit Kyrie down and talk some sense into him? Would he? And then have the Klutch PR team shape an exit strategy for Kyrie to get him to L.A.?

That's about the only way I see Kyrie playing again this season.

(And yet the cynic in me says that all of this gets lost in the election news cycle, Kyrie faux-apologizes, and he's back on the court against the Lakers on the 13th.)
 

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What is the value of an "apology" now?

And I hate to get into slippery slope arguments, but what precedent(s) does this set?
 

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With the caveat that I haven’t lived in the neighborhood for a while, all any Net would need to do to see Jewish families buying formula with SNAP cards is hang out at the Target across the street from the Barclays Center on a Sunday morning. You know, do their own research.
If they need to hang out at the target, I think my point is made.
 

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Could LeBron sit Kyrie down and talk some sense into him? Would he? And then have the Klutch PR team shape an exit strategy for Kyrie to get him to L.A.?

That's about the only way I see Kyrie playing again this season.

(And yet the cynic in me says that all of this gets lost in the election news cycle, Kyrie faux-apologizes, and he's back on the court against the Lakers on the 13th.)
We know from last year that he's stubborn. And I think he's beyond being "talked sense to." The success rate of convincing people who believe batshit bullshit (whether bigoted bullshit or garden variety bullshit) is pretty small.
And Kyrie is probably, at this very moment, receiving positive reaction from many quarters. Why would he give that up when he can be feted by fellow thing-knowers for a long long time?
 

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Mad respect for the Nets for having done this.

And I love that they have put this piece of red hot garbage in an almost impossible position for him.

I wonder if a single active NBA player will speak out against Kyrie.
 

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Mad respect for the Nets for having done this.

And I love that they have put this piece of red hot garbage in an almost impossible position for him.

I wonder if a single active NBA player will speak out against Kyrie.
They won't because he wildly popular among the players, and....I bet more players agree with him than anyone wants to admit
 

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At least that guy might have the excuse of massive repeated head traumas. What is Kyrie's excuse?
Kyries excuse is that there's a group of people controlling things who he's made uncomfortable by speaking the truth. If not for them, he wouldnt be getting persecuted.
 

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I understand that people are thinking this is the end for Irving in the NBA and it might be. However there are scenarios where, with gentle coaching by say, Klutch Sports consultants, Kyrie winds up playing elsewhere after a period of reflection and an apology.

Also, I have no proof of it but it would not shock me at all if a good number of NBA players share the same zip code in terms of having similar views as Kyrie. Point being that he may be a lot more welcome in other locker rooms than we'd like to believe.

Again, that's just a sense I have and I am about as close to an NBA locker room as most others here.
 

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And I hate to get into slippery slope arguments, but what precedent(s) does this set?
I don’t hate it; this is huge. Like, I’m not seeing anyone yet that this is wild jurisprudential territory.

I mean, read the statement carefully:
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So, it’s pretty obvious that Kyrie “refused to unequivocally say he has no antisemitic beliefs” because, well, he does.

So, either he was suspended (1) for having antisemitic beliefs, or (2) refusing to lie about having antisemitic beliefs?

Either one of those two puts us into very complicated and, well, interesting territory. Like, to what extent has he been suspended for being antisemitic?

Unfit. That word is biting.
Oh… oh shit.

Wow. Nice pick-up.
 

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What is the value of an "apology" now?

And I hate to get into slippery slope arguments, but what precedent(s) does this set?
You’re right about an apology. My guess is that the criteria the team is talking about encompasses a whole lot more, such as demonstrating that he understands what is wrong about that propoganda.
 

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Also, I have no proof of it but it would not shock me at all if a good number of NBA players share the same zip code in terms of having similar views as Kyrie. Point being that he may be a lot more welcome in other locker rooms than we'd like to believe.
Again, that's just a sense I have and I am about as close to an NBA locker room as most others here.
I have almost no doubt you are correct. But he has to pass by the front office to get to the locker room.
 

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You’re right about an apology. My guess is that the criteria the team is talking about encompasses a whole lot more, such as demonstrating that he understands what is wrong about that propoganda.
Well, that’s the kicker, isn’t it? Understand the impact the propaganda is and why it causes harm, or understand that it is wrong?
 

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[QUOTE="Reverend, post: 5249307, member: 30558
So, it’s pretty obvious that Kyrie “refused to unequivocally say he has no antisemitic beliefs” because, well, he does.

So, either he was suspended (1) for having antisemitic beliefs, or (2) refusing to lie about having antisemitic beliefs?

Either one of those two puts us into very complicated and, well, interesting territory. Like, to what extent has he been suspended for being antisemitic?
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He’s suspended because he is not properly civilized and he is blatantly offending people based on their religion. We do not have the technology to suspend people for just their thoughts.
 

joe dokes

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Well, that’s the kicker, isn’t it? Understand the impact the propaganda is and why it causes harm, or understand that it is wrong?
He'll never think its wrong. Ive never thought you can change too many bigots' minds. The best you can hope for is to make them realize there are consequences for spewing hateful stuff, because there is no thought police. I'm struggling to find a better way of saying, "youre free to be a bigot, just keep it to yourself."
 

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I understand that people are thinking this is the end for Irving in the NBA and it might be. However there are scenarios where, with gentle coaching by say, Klutch Sports consultants, Kyrie winds up playing elsewhere after a period of reflection and an apology.

Also, I have no proof of it but it would not shock me at all if a good number of NBA players share the same zip code in terms of having similar views as Kyrie. Point being that he may be a lot more welcome in other locker rooms than we'd like to believe.

Again, that's just a sense I have and I am about as close to an NBA locker room as most others here.
Is there still a Russian basketball League?
 

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What an asshole is all I can say. And the ADL does not look good in all of this - the initial check without any apology was an obvious sign that he was not being accountable.