That’s what makes Kyrie such a great offensive player. He’s one of the best scoring guards in the last couple decades with arguably the best handle ever to play the game. He’s more of a pure 2 than a pure if you want to add positional numbers to it.
Kyrie is dirty rotten no good and we have schadenfreude…?
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It is his top skill, but I think he's a much better ball handler than a playmaker for others. So Luka initiating the offense and then letting Kyrie attack a rotating D off the dribble from the weak side seems like it would be really effective. Like Jaylen, except with much, much better handles.
As long as Kyrie would accept not being the primary initiator, at least. And I bet he would, for a half season or so. His pattern seems to be good citizenship for a while, then...
Whatever fans/media feel about Kyrie is kind of irrelevant, his fellow players elected him to Players Assoc VP.
He's pretty well-liked and respected around the league. I wouldn't be shocked if many players share his views.
The West is kind of flat and this makes Dallas more dangerous. One less good player in the East is fine by me.
The Rockets also won this trade, because KD will be asking out this Summer.
He's pretty well-liked and respected around the league. I wouldn't be shocked if many players share his views.
The West is kind of flat and this makes Dallas more dangerous. One less good player in the East is fine by me.
The Rockets also won this trade, because KD will be asking out this Summer.
Your yearly reminder that KD could have signed with the Celtics and led a team of young assembled talent, but chose Kyrie instead.
well played
They'll probably give him a key to the city with his anti-VAX stance
Deep down I'm looking forward to watching his drama show unfold in another city
This seems like an awful move for Dallas, but to be fair they need to mix things up and I can't think of a better alternate move. I'll believe it when I see Kyrie being happy standing around as a spot up shooter while Luka holds the ball. Irving is not necessarily always an assist guy, but he really needs to get touches or else he checks out.
This has me concerned that the Nets could be a feisty team once KD is healthy.
This has me concerned that the Nets could be a feisty team once KD is healthy.
Luka is a ball dominant point guard who doesn't play defense, so of course the only all-star Dallas was able to acquire is another ball dominant point guard who doesn't play defense. Ignoring everything else, this is a terrible on court fit. I know that there aren't any other all-stars available for two role players and a 1st round pick that's 6 years away, but still.
that Russell Westbrook trade is the gift that keeps on giving
hopefully, HRB was busy laying off his Laker wager when the news broke
hopefully, HRB was busy laying off his Laker wager when the news broke
Really? I understand why people dislike KD - I generally am ok with him - but the guy has never been anything other than a gamer as far as I can remember.
So now either the Lakers massively overpay for someone or Lebron shuts it down with knee soreness the day after he passes Kareem, right?
It really depends on two things:
-How KD is feeling. If he checks out, then they've got a roster of role players that would be lucky to make the playoffs.
-If Luka leaves the Mavs when he's a free agent in 2027.
Obviously we won't know the latter for awhile, but an unprotected 2029 pick from a team that isn't a free agent destination could end up being worth its weight in gold.
I get Mavs had limited options for a Luka sidekick and feel some pressure.
but they are all-in on kyrie. That’s never where you want to be.
maybe worthwhile for them (we just don’t know what Luka is saying to them) but wow is it a huge bet on the most mercurial guy in the league
but they are all-in on kyrie. That’s never where you want to be.
maybe worthwhile for them (we just don’t know what Luka is saying to them) but wow is it a huge bet on the most mercurial guy in the league
They're not too far out of the play-in - I'm not sure he'd shut it down so soon.
Cam Thomas scored 44 points on 16-for-23 shooting for BKN last nite. His role is going to grow.
It’ll be interesting to see how Kyrie handles this. He’s been given another chance, despite the fact that he really didn’t deserve it.
If he still hopes to get a long-term contract he will need to show that he can focus on basketball and avoid becoming a distraction. Seems doubtful that he is up to that challenge..
If he still hopes to get a long-term contract he will need to show that he can focus on basketball and avoid becoming a distraction. Seems doubtful that he is up to that challenge..
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I know the all star game doesn’t work this way anymore but Kyrie is an eastern conference all star. But when the all star game is played he will be in the western conference. How would that work at the ASG?
The Mavs made their own limited options when they decided to not extend Brunson OR trade him for assets. They painted themselves into this desperate corner so no pity for them from this seat.
Pretty insane to have traded away the future assets they have and then to have....this roster to show for it. Oof.
I mean, it was only for like 25 games, but Kyrie was very effective playing mostly off-ball with Harden on the Nets. He averaged 27/5/5 with 52/39/89 shooting in games the two played together. Agree, the defense will be iffy, but those two together will score a lot.
Scoring won't be a problem, and if Durant ends up with Dallas too, they'll be just fine.
That's an amazing trade by the Nets. They had no real leverage. And you couldn't have paid three quarters of the league to take Kyrie off their hands.
It only takes two teams to create a market and the Nets had 3 or 4. They did good all things considered.
He wouldn't. The post I was responding to said that Kyrie played just fine offensively with Harden (who is definitely a solid comp for Luka, if a few years past his prime), my point is that they worked as a title contender because they had Durant in the frontcourt. Durant won't end up in Dallas, so this pairing will not work.
It was DDB Jr. Probably an original — he usually tells me when he plagiarizes.
Rozier? Bogdanovich? Barton? Fournier? Hyland for second unit offense if they move Russ in another deal?
LeBron has to be feeling deflated today.
So what’s the over/under on when Luka Asks out?
How long will it take for Kyrie to call himself the “leader” of the Mavericks?
How long will it take for Kyrie to call himself the “leader” of the Mavericks?
I actually think they are a good fit together. Having a guy who is capable of being a legit #1 means you don't have to put everything on Luka, which was going to be the case in the playoffs now that they lost Brunson.
The assets that they still have (those far off 1st round picks) are enough to get a useful rotation player or two, but definitely not enough to get anyone capable of star play. It will be incredibly stupid of them to give away those picks for incremental improvement considering how mediocre they've been (even with Lebron/AD healthy) since the beginning of last year, so I'm rooting for it.
Cuban is probably one of the only owners foolish enough to offer Kyrie a max extension after he rattles off several good games.
Maybe there's some sign-and-trade equity in this move for Dallas? A lot more teams can add Kyrie that way than via cap space.
Marks said in a clip for ESPN that if KI walks Dallas opens up enough cap space for a near max contract. So they aren't completely screwed if he just leaves
That's a positive for them, but it's not exactly a great free agent class. Looking at the guys who will be available, it doesn't look like any of them are all-stars (Harden is the closest, and he's not exactly a guy I'd be excited to give a max deal too). Plus, they'll likely want to re-sign Wood.
Yeah, it's conceivable they could pivot to others if Kyrie walks but giving up the assets they did it really has to be their plan to re-sign him....if you just wanted the space you could have dealt DFS and a first (each of which has value) for long-term assets and cleared the space anyway.
Oh totally agree that this upcoming class is lacking, but at least they have options if they don't resign him or he doesn't want to sign there. It also gives them a bit of leverage over him since he's not their only avenue for that salary, and Kyrie losing leverage, even if small, is delicious to me
What Brooklyn wanted (ready now playoff rotation guys including a ballhandler) and what DAL would want are different, S&T are usually lower quality assets.