LeBron James to join FSG as full partner and become part owner of the Red Sox(among other FSG entities)

Kenny F'ing Powers

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Guess who we get to see/hear from several times a year well after he retires? Goddamn it.
 

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Gives LeBron a reason to spend his final season with the Celtics on the vet minimum when he’s 45.
 

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This was amusing to read in succession (not to call Rough a racist...just that it was amusing).
I'm anti dumb virtue signaling, white and black, also guys who pretend to be reading books but who apparently don't, white and black. If a similarly posturing dumbass white guy buys into the Sox I'll criticize him just as freely.
 

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I'm anti dumb virtue signaling, white and black, also guys who pretend to be reading books but who apparently don't, white and black. If a similarly posturing dumbass white guy buys into the Sox I'll criticize him just as freely.
Not V&N but you're trying to get us there. The very use of the phrase "virtue signalling" is signalling something these days, that's for sure.
 

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Agreed. Never liked him as a player because he always beat the team I was rooting for, but he has made good strides towards Social Justice in the past year and the Sox can always use help to that end
Can we put him in a time machine and go back to 1948 and sign WIllie Mays?
 

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It just feels wrong that a Laker who is also a Yankees fan is part owner of the Red Sox. I mean, it's not as bad as a hypothetical "Derek Jeter buys a stake in the Red Sox", but it just feels icky.
 

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Wonder how much he has in the portfolio? Regardless, the Yankee hat has to go.
 

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Ugh. Not a fan of that posturing dumbass. Oh well.
LeBron is a lot of things, and plenty of them are unlikeable. Being a dumbass is not one of them. Him "posturing" isn't either. So what are you really trying to say?
 

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Eh, LeBron is a mogul and has his hands in 100,000 different things. He wants to get into team ownership and this was an easy opportunity to get involved in one of the biggest American sports teams there is. I don't think it changes anything about the team, and I'm certainly not going to be clutching my pearls if I see him wearing a Yankees hat.
 

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You can't blame him for being a Yankee fan; he grew up in Ohio, so there's no other baseball teams around that area, are there?



On the other hand, John Henry was not just a Yankee fan but actually a part owner of them. But since he's been here, he's done nothing but try to beat them, and he's succeeded a lot at that.
 

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LeBron is a lot of things, and plenty of them are unlikeable. Being a dumbass is not one of them. Him "posturing" isn't either. So what are you really trying to say?
I can't really say where Rough was coming from but Lebron does turn me off in how he has no loyalties. He's like a man with no country...or at least many countries. I've also been rooting against him for much of his career due to Celtics rivalries, being part of the South Beach talent, and now the Lakers. I'm not going to lose any sleep over him being part of ownership, but it doesn't excite me in the least.
 

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I can't really say where Rough was coming from but Lebron does turn me off in how he has no loyalties. He's like a man with no country...or at least many countries. I've also been rooting against him for much of his career due to Celtics rivalries, being part of the South Beach talent, and now the Lakers. I'm not going to lose any sleep over him being part of ownership, but it doesn't excite me in the least.
You don't think going back to the Cavaliers and winning a championship was a loyalty play? Especially after comic-sans gate from Dan Gilbert?
 

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As long as he has zero input on anything, I'm fine with this.

All we need from him is a few selfies on social with a Sox cap on, some pro Sox tweets and his checkbook.
 

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I can't really say where Rough was coming from but Lebron does turn me off in how he has no loyalties. He's like a man with no country...or at least many countries. I've also been rooting against him for much of his career due to Celtics rivalries, being part of the South Beach talent, and now the Lakers. I'm not going to lose any sleep over him being part of ownership, but it doesn't excite me in the least.
This is maybe true if you’re talking about loyalties to sports teams or their cities — a trait he’d share with most athletes these days — but he doesn’t strike me as someone who lacks broader loyalties or principles.

Re-signing with the Cavs also felt partly motivated by something other than money, even if it was just about legacy. Regardless, most owners don’t meet this standard. I’m not sure how many could be considered “loyal” to much beyond their investments.
 

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You don't think going back to the Cavaliers and winning a championship was a loyalty play? Especially after comic-sans gate from Dan Gilbert?
LeBron going back to Cleveland was all about him ditching a fading Miami team that wasn't going to be able to really contend as Wade slowed down; the Finals that year against San Antonio just showed that even with LeBron playing at his absolute peak they were not going to be able to compete with the top teams. He was always going to go somewhere, and Cleveland was the optimal option since they had accumulated three #1 picks once he left them (one pick would be used for a cornerstone player in Kyrie, the other two would be immediately traded for another cornerstone in Kevin Love) and could give him the assistance he wasn't going to get in Miami. The fact that he could sell it as "going home" to avoid the PR hit that he took when he went to Miami was an added bonus.

FWIW I don't really care about LeBron "not being loyal" when it comes to him owning a sliver of the Red Sox or even judging him as an individual.
 

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LeBron is a lot of things, and plenty of them are unlikeable. Being a dumbass is not one of them. Him "posturing" isn't either. So what are you really trying to say?
The guy, apparently, makes sure to be seen reading books in the locker room and then when asked what he likes about those books he's not able to cite anything. Posturing dumbass.
 

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LeBron going back to Cleveland was all about him ditching a fading Miami team that wasn't going to be able to really contend as Wade slowed down; the Finals that year against San Antonio just showed that even with LeBron playing at his absolute peak they were not going to be able to compete with the top teams. He was always going to go somewhere, and Cleveland was the optimal option since they had accumulated three #1 picks once he left them (one pick would be used for a cornerstone player in Kyrie, the other two would be immediately traded for another cornerstone in Kevin Love) and could give him the assistance he wasn't going to get in Miami. The fact that he could sell it as "going home" to avoid the PR hit that he took when he went to Miami was an added bonus.

FWIW I don't really care about LeBron "not being loyal" when it comes to him owning a sliver of the Red Sox or even judging him as an individual.
I think it can be both ways. He was going home AND it was good PR.
 

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Wealthy people virtue signaling? Its unheard of...

Even if LeBron didn't do good for others, his joining ownership has to be considered a positive thing on paper. He is adding money to the club, he has influence and he clearly cares about sustained excellence. Its hard to see the downside in that, especially since James has had a wealth experience dealing with a variety of owners/governors and management teams. At the very least, he offers some athlete perspectives to the ownership group.
 

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They had a whole 15 minute discussion of it one afternoon on 98.5 they were laughing at how a reporter had asked him about the book that he was being conspicuous about reading and he couldn't tell him anything. I didn't see it myself so I said "apparently".