Yeah, I think this is the logical thing to to do. Given the depth of the problems on the offense, it also wouldn't surprise me if they don't even go QB with their first pick.While I don't think a single person here thinks he is the long term solution, there is no point in cutting him. Perhaps if you can get something of value you trade him, but I'm all for exploring all possible opportunities in the offseason and seeing what happens. Maybe that means drafting someone like Maye in the top 5. If that happens, I could still see keeping Mac and even starting him and not throwing Maye to the wolves.
This is where I stand on this. You simply can't cut the guy given his contract. If you can't get the guy you like in the draft this year, you start building the offense, draft a project QB, and roll it back with Mac again and a better offense. You don't pick up Mac's option, and then if you don't like that project QB, you go after another in 2024, then another in 2025.While I don't think a single person here thinks he is the long term solution, there is no point in cutting him. Perhaps if you can get something of value you trade him, but I'm all for exploring all possible opportunities in the offseason and seeing what happens. Maybe that means drafting someone like Maye in the top 5. If that happens, I could still see keeping Mac and even starting him and not throwing Maye to the wolves.
See, we can agree on something!This is where I stand on this. You simply can't cut the guy given his contract. If you can't get the guy you like in the draft this year, you start building the offense, draft a project QB, and roll it back with Mac again and a better offense. You don't pick up Mac's option, and then if you don't like that project QB, you go after another in 2024, then another in 2025.
I think Mac's days in New England are numbered, but unless someone throws an offer out that the Pats can't ignore in a trade, he's the QB of the Pats in 2024 barring a really high draft pick on a QB this offseason who shows out in training camp.
"Everybody just knows you're irredeemably shitty" probably isn't something Mac imagined he would be putting in the "plus" column of his career, but here we are.Another benefit of keeping Mac as a backup is that it pretty much guarantees against any sort of QB controversy, no matter how bad Jones replacement is.
Its probably not the most prudent move but I can get with this.I voted cut him now. He has literally zero redeeming qualities. I just want to see someone different throwing the ball. The 2023 Patriots are painful to watch and most of it revolves around number 10. I hate Mac Jones.
The latte, though, is overpricedIts probably not the most prudent move but I can get with this.
Its not just that he sucks. He sucks AND he is boring. And maybe not cool either. Mac is the pumpkin spiced latte of NFL QBs. Basic, lame and wildly overrated.
Who, Mac? You're missing a comma.I voted 4th year for Mac, draft a QB and let him learn the position for the year.
The worst part of this team, aside from the suck, is that they are boring. Really boring. Few big plays, few TO, few long drives. At least Cam was a fun personality despite throwing 8 yard turf outs on 15 yard curls.
But you have.. you've seen two other qbs this season.. and they're both worse if not much worse than Jones. The only thing that would change if Jones was cut is the same people would then be complaining non stop about his replacement.. they've tried several times to hand someone else the team this year.. and his replacement isn't on the roster or the practice squad... and it make zero sense to trade him right now.I voted cut him now. He has literally zero redeeming qualities. I just want to see someone different throwing the ball. The 2023 Patriots are painful to watch and most of it revolves around number 10. I hate Mac Jones.
While I generally agree that they'll end up with 5-6 wins and not in the top 5 of the draft, they did just lose at home to a pretty bad team who had traded away two of its best defensive players. Finger pointing, sulking, and quitting on the season doesn't generally happen in NE, but who knows where this season is headed. Here's the remaining schedule:I don't think they'll pick early enough for Williams or Maye (or Harrison) and I don't think Belichick will trade up when he can get a talented player wherever they pick so Mac is likely the starter next year. If we're lucky Penix or Nix are there early in the second or close enough that trading up is not prohibitively expensive and that guy can hold a clipboard until Mac gets hurt or plays himself onto the bench. It just doesn't make sense for a team with this little talent to make a run at an expensive veteran. Yes it will be frustrating but it's going to take awhile to rebuild this offense.
This is where I'm at. They need a ton of help on the offensive side of the ball, so if you don't feel like you are getting a franchise altering QB in the first round (5th pick for example) they need to go with real talent at WR or OT. If that second tier quarterback is available then you take the shot. They really need to use resources for high-end talent no matter what.1. Play the kids as much as possible this year. If they suck, at least they'll be learning on the job. Because right now the vets suck too.
2. Keep Mac for 2024 in his last year of his rookie deal. Do NOT do the 5th year option, obviously.
3. Draft a QB in the first two rounds next year - either Williams or Maye in the first (if you can get them), or if not, and you take Harrison or the stud OT in the first round, then grab one of the next tier of QB in the second (a guy like Penix). Take a legit shot at another QB. Let Mac run the show in 2024 and if somehow he becomes great, awesome, then you extend him. If he flops, you've got a guy waiting in the wings for 2025 who's spent a year learning the ropes.
4. Add as much offensive firepower as you possibly can. In the draft. In free agency. By trade. Anything to give Mac/new QB the best chance to succeed.
Ive seen two other QBs play a handful of snaps and both brought with them something that Mac cannot generate. Hope. Hope that the next play will be better. We’ve seen enough of Mac fucking Jones to know that the next play won’t be better. Or the play after that. Continuing this is an effort in futility. There isn’t a person here that knows without a doubt what half a season of someone else looks like. Why would anyone complain if they’re worse? At that point you have to just admit defeat. It would at the very least give you a different perspective of the players you currently have on that side of the ball.But you have.. you've seen two other qbs this season.. and they're both worse if not much worse than Jones. The only thing that would change if Jones was cut is the same people would then be complaining non stop about his replacement.. they've tried several times to hand someone else the team this year.. and his replacement isn't on the roster or the practice squad... and it make zero sense to trade him right now.
Who is going to trade anything for Mac? If you put him on the market this off season people are just going to assume you are cutting him. Also with Malik Cunningham I don't see the point of drafting a late round QB especially if you are dumping Mac. You are going to want to bring in a veteran guy.Trade him for a 5th/6th value and move on, even with the low base salary (which is why you're getting anything for him to begin with). Draft 2 QBs, one in the top of the 1st, and another in the 4th-6th range, maybe sign a 3rd veteran for cheapish and start anew. Mac is just a waste of time at this point.
Some of us repeatedly pointed out that he was missing open reads last year and that it was obvious he was struggling to command the offense when left to his own devices (aka, not leaning on McDaniels).View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNIo8HLj2pU
The rational part of my brain says he's a cheap starter/placeholder for whatever rookie they wind up drafting, the emotional part of me says to cut him yesterday.