Marlins: Stanton buy your man!

[bankshot1]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11827658/giancarlo-stanton-miami-marlins-open-contract-extension-talks
 

 

MIAMI -- Contract talks have started between Giancarlo Stanton and the Miami Marlins, who are prepared to offer a multiyear deal that would be a big departure for the historically thrifty franchise.
President of baseball operations Mike Hill declined to say whether the Marlins have made an offer, but they've begun discussions with agent Joel Wolfe regarding an agreement with the All-Star right fielder.
"Negotiations are ongoing,'' Hill said Wednesday. "We're hopeful we'll be able to make him a Marlin for many years to come.''
 

 
Sometimes it's hard to own the Marlins
Giving all your dough to just one man
You'll have bad times, and he'll have good times
Doin' things that you don't understand

 

[TomRicardo]

They are making an effort before Winter Meetings.  If they can't sign him he is gone.

 

[TheYaz67]

 

The question was whether the events of this season had altered his top-down view of the organization. He’d raised his eyes, thinking.
“Five months,” he said, “doesn’t change five years.”

 
Yeah, like Mike Lowell, I don't see him being interested in playing in a half empty (at best) ballpark for the rest of his career - he wants out, but obviously will at least listen to what they will offer.  He also suggested the only way he would consider staying was if the Marlins made long term commitments to other key pieces, but of course even when they do that, they have a history of unloading them all in a sudden tear down, so if I am him, I don't trust Loria as far as I can throw him....

 

[soxhop411]

Last time they gave a player(S) long term contracts in the offseason, they were traded away less than two years later.....

 

[MakMan44]

Last time they gave a player(S) long term contracts in the offseason, they were traded away less than two years later.....

A full no trade clause is absolutely going to be a sticking point. He doesn't get one, he's isn't signing there long term.

 

[Rasputin]

Why the hell would he sign there?
 
If he signs, he's guaranteed a boatload of money.
 
If he doesn't, he's going to get traded, probably this off season, and get guaranteed a boatload of money a couple months later than otherwise.
 
I suppose he's risking not getting traded and suffering a horrific injury before getting traded next offseason, but really, who the fuck are we kidding?

 

[Mugsy's Jock]

 
Yeah, like Mike Lowell, I don't see him being interested in playing in a half empty (at best) ballpark for the rest of his career - he wants out, but obviously will at least listen to what they will offer.  He also suggested the only way he would consider staying was if the Marlins made long term commitments to other key pieces, but of course even when they do that, they have a history of unloading them all in a sudden tear down, so if I am him, I don't trust Loria as far as I can throw him....

If you were Giancarlo Stanton, I bet you could throw Loria a fuck of a long way.

 

[Darnell's Son]

Why the hell would he sign there?
 
If he signs, he's guaranteed a boatload of money.
 
If he doesn't, he's going to get traded, probably this off season, and get guaranteed a boatload of money a couple months later than otherwise.
 
I suppose he's risking not getting traded and suffering a horrific injury before getting traded next offseason, but really, who the fuck are we kidding?

Like getting hit in the face with a baseball? I agree with you, but maybe the Marlins are hoping his broken face convinces him to sign.

 

[Comfortably Lomb]

Like getting hit in the face with a baseball? I agree with you, but maybe the Marlins are hoping his broken face convinces him to sign.

 
Why not get one of those Matt Scherzer insurance policies?

 

[Toe Nash]

Why the hell would he sign there?
 
If he signs, he's guaranteed a boatload of money.
 
If he doesn't, he's going to get traded, probably this off season, and get guaranteed a boatload of money a couple months later than otherwise.
 
I suppose he's risking not getting traded and suffering a horrific injury before getting traded next offseason, but really, who the fuck are we kidding?

He isn't a free agent until 2017. If the Marlins wanted to they could do nothing and while he'd get good money in arbitration, he wouldn't get a boatload of money for two more years, not two months. Sure the Marlins could trade him but the team he's traded to could just go year-to-year and count on him being a two-year rental (perhaps unlikely, but the team would still hold this leverage).
 
If he doesn't want to be in Miami it doesn't seem like having a contract is an impediment to being traded as we've seen.

 

[TheYaz67]

Well, the Marlin's payroll last year was only $45 million, and he was $6.5 million of that.  He's a second year arb player this year, and put up an MVP-caliber season at age 24, so he's going to ask for somewhere in the $12 to $15 million range for next year I would guess, and should get at least $12M.  The following year that number could be closer to $20 million if he put up another monster season next year, so that is "real money" for a team as stingy as the Marlins.  Granted they only have like $14M committed to players under contract for 2015, but they will have a decent number of guys by next year moving into their first arb year....

 

[Snodgrass'Muff]

I really wouldn't be surprised if they work out a deal. I wouldn't bet on it happening, but Loria has a window in front of him in which he could be fielding a playoff team consistently. Maybe it's only 3 or 4 years, but if he can snag another World Series title it might be worth it to him to pony up for Stanton and worry about moving the contract later when he decides it's time for another rebuild. Sure, Stanton will require a no-trade and he may end up having to work with a limited market that depresses his trade value, but even in that scenario he's going to get a king's ransom. If Loria is ever going to spend money again, this is where he's going to do it.

 

[MakMan44]

I still think Stanton only signs if he gets a full no trade clause. If what Snod says is true, should make for some interesting stories down the line.

 

[Yelling At Clouds]

And just to show they're serious, they're also trying to extend Fernandez, Yelich, and Hechevarria. 

 

[Snodgrass'Muff]

Extending Fernandez, Yelich and Hechavarria will probably go a long way toward convincing Stanton to stick around.

 

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

I still think Stanton only signs if he gets a full no trade clause. If what Snod says is true, should make for some interesting stories down the line.

 
Or given the Marlins' history Stanton should insist on a a Yankees-style opt-out clause.

 

[soxhop411]

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