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scherzer talking to a couple teams about 7-year deal, nats among them.
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scherzer talking to a couple teams about 7-year deal, nats among them.
EDIT: I don't know how to embed tweets apparently. I tried.
soxhop411 said:
The Brewers appear ready to ship Gallardo to Texas, so maybe they're the Mystery Team?
Rudy Pemberton said:
The answer might be as simple as he's two years younger. I don't think those two years are necessarily worth breaking the prospect bank for, but if they can get him without giving up Swihart, Betts or Bogaerts, I don't see how you could complain too much. I'm guessing it's not the Sox they are supposedly close with, though.
I give up Betts for Zim conditional upon an extension. I might be in the minority here with that opinion howeverH78 said:
I hope the Red Sox are involved in this. I would trade Swilhart for Zimmerman, no sweat at all. If the Red Sox don't resign Zimmerman, they collect the compensation pick. So, in that scenario, they trade Swilhart for one year of Zimmerman and a compensation pick. Swilhart might be great, he might be average, he might be a bust. Likewise, the compensation pick for Zimmerman might yield a great player, average one, or bust.
I wouldn't trade Betts, the Red Sox are relying on him to be an integral part of their 2015 offense, whereas Swilhart isn't quite ready. Moreover, as the minor league numbers suggest, I think Betts has more upside with the bat.
I wouldn't trade Betts, the Red Sox are relying on him to be an integral part of their 2015 offense, whereas Swilhart isn't quite ready. Moreover, as the minor league numbers suggest, I think Betts has more upside with the bat.
I don't think it's reasonable, at this point, to assign Swihart only the same likelihood of coming through as the compensation pick the Sox would get if they acquired Zimmerman and then let him go. Think of all the things that go wrong with draft picks. You have unforeseeable health issues as with Westmoreland. You have accidents/bad luck like with Andy Yount. You have normal attrition due to health issues like any number of flame out prospects. You have guys who can't mentally adjust to not being BMOC and having to accept real failure for the first time in their life and bounce back from it. You have other miscellaneous causes of guys going nowhere, can't adjust to the wood bat or just weren't what the scouts thought they were, etc etc.
Swihart's gotten past all of that to this point and all that remains is the transition to the majors. A compensation pick guy would have to get past all those other obstacles to possibly be as good as Swihart looks to be right now. We shouldn't imply a false equivalence between Swihart and a pick.
Swihart's gotten past all of that to this point and all that remains is the transition to the majors. A compensation pick guy would have to get past all those other obstacles to possibly be as good as Swihart looks to be right now. We shouldn't imply a false equivalence between Swihart and a pick.
Apparently, it's the Nats - http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals-are-very-close-to-deal-with-free-agent-pitcher-max-scherzer/2015/01/18/1de79714-9f79-11e4-b146-577832eafcb4_story.html. Rumours are that it's at least 7/$180, but the WaPo describes the deal as "complicated" and terms probably won't be released for a while.
WaPo also says that trade of Zimmerman may happen but isn't necessary.
edit: did not know the Nats owner is 89; this makes Nats early WS favourites.
WaPo also says that trade of Zimmerman may happen but isn't necessary.
edit: did not know the Nats owner is 89; this makes Nats early WS favourites.
Speculation that they could deal Strasburg as well. I don't see them getting anyone like Betts or Bogaerts for 1 year of Zimmerman, but it may be realistic for 2 years of Strasburg.