May 6 Matchweek Thread

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I think they are running out steam after their blazing 4 month run. A treble is still within reach…but Fab is one of the most indispensable players in the league.
With a hamstring you’d think the FA cup is out of the question for Fabinho. At this point I think the two cup finals should be the priority. The league looks out of reach.
 

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So who do City play at the back today? Or does Pep take this as a divine signal to roll out the 0-11-0 he dreams about?
 

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The thing you can count on with Moss is that he will be too far away from any incident that isn’t in the center circle to properly make a call. The calls may inevitably end up favoring one side but that probably has more to do with being woefully out of position than any intent
 

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So who do City play at the back today? Or does Pep take this as a divine signal to roll out the 0-11-0 he dreams about?
I would presume, Laporte+Ake/Rodri/Fernandinho with Cancelo and the Ukrainian guy at full back.
 

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The thing you can count on with Moss is that he will be too far away from any incident that isn’t in the center circle to properly make a call. The calls may inevitably end up favoring one side but that probably has more to do with being woefully out of position than any intent
This was my impression with that mess of a game yesterday. There would be a “foul” with no call and you’d look at the wide shot and Moss wasn't anywhere on the screen and this happened multiple times for both teams. There was one where Diaz got wiped out in the middle of the field and Moss was on top of it but facing the complete wrong direction (like 180 degrees wrong). To me that was incompetence and the inability to keep up with the game more so than bias (although I am biased)
 

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The thing you can count on with Moss is that he will be too far away from any incident that isn’t in the center circle to properly make a call. The calls may inevitably end up favoring one side but that probably has more to do with being woefully out of position than any intent
To me, this was exactly the issue. He just had no interest in running with the play. He'd have called a better game sitting in a Barcalounger watching on his phone. Oh wait, that's VAR.
 

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It was my reaction at first glance also that it was harsh, but on looking again it was at least a 3/4th Nigel de Jong.
 

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KDB just carrying City to this win.
hes carried them for a while

I hated subbing him off in Madrid because he’s the one guy that would have been a grownup about everything and held it together. I’m sure he was exhausted, but I think City survives that with him in
 

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That was a stunning half of football from KDB. Maybe Pep should just go with a back 4 and let KDB thrive as a 10?

If KDB played for almost any other manager, he’d have spent the past 6 seasons in a free attacking mid role & scored a shit ton of goals Credit to KDB that he’s embraced the deeper creative & tactical fouling role Pep demands…but what would we have seen if KDB was at Madrid with free reign?
 
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That was a stunning half of football from KDB. Maybe Pep should just go with a back 4 and let KDB thrive as a 10?

If KDB played for almost any other manager, he’d have spent the past 6 seasons in a free attacking mid role & scored a shit ton of gold. Credit to KDB that he’s embraced the deeper creative & tactical fouling role Pep demands…but what would we have seen if KDB was at Madrid with free reign?
Madrid doesn't play with a 10 either.

I think Pep's system still gives KDB a lot of opportunities to impact the match in the attacking third. Its not a free role but he is high up the pitch as one of the attacking 8s most of the time and if he played in a system with a free 10 it would probably be a shit system and he would be just a Belgian Bruno Fernandes on a team playing under its potential.
 

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Madrid doesn't play with a 10 either.

I think Pep's system still gives KDB a lot of opportunities to impact the match in the attacking third. Its not a free role but he is high up the pitch as one of the attacking 8s most of the time and if he played in a system with a free 10 it would probably be a shit system and he would be just a Belgian Bruno Fernandes on a team playing under its potential.
LOL, true. Madrid was just an example of a club that typically accommodates its stars. Of course, if KDB had gone to Madrid instead of City, he’d be on his 6th manager instead of developing & thriving under Pep.
 

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This Everton-Watford match is the classic "The stakes are really high but the football is really terrible" survival match.

Ohhh...Gray just had a big chance.
That's probably enough for them given the recent Leeds trends, but if something weird happens, but if a few things go weird in the next few weeks a limp point against an already relegated Watford could look haunting in hindsight.
 

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That's probably enough for them given the recent Leeds trends, but if something weird happens, but if a few things go weird in the next few weeks a limp point against an already relegated Watford could look haunting in hindsight.
Agreed. Its not a bad result given Leeds lost but all three points would have practically written their ticket.

City go 5-1 up and Sterling misses a great chance for 6-1. Goal difference starting to look kind of ugly for Liverpool. City could lose a one goal match and Liverpool would still need to win some real blowouts to take the title.
 

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That's probably enough for them given the recent Leeds trends, but if something weird happens, but if a few things go weird in the next few weeks a limp point against an already relegated Watford could look haunting in hindsight.
Agreed, but OTOH I was listening to a post-match reacton pod last night. One of the hosts, who is generally harsh on the club for not taking its chances, said that this was a classic banana-skin game, that you see clubs slip up all the time in situations like this, you never know how already-relegated sides are going to play in DGAF mode, if someone had offered you 4 points from 6 in away games in the space of 3 days from a side which has not had a point away since December you would have grabbed it with both hands, that the 1 point is huge and the difference between 1 and 0 is more important than that between 1 and 3 right now, etc.

I'm inclined to agree - even though it was not a good look. Everton looked terrified to lose at times. They had the better of the game and had some clever bits that almost came off but the quality was not there. Their faults were exposed - against a truly awful side, they lack the creativity to boss the game. But Lampard was too conservative. They've had success with a 3 CB setup, and Mykolenko and Iwobi as wingbacks. But Iwobi has been our best player under Lampard (read that again, you're not hallucinating) and he's thrived centrally. His decision making is still not great and his touch deserts him, but his work rate is off the charts and he is a nightmare to play against with his strength and pace. Centrally he has been able to drive the team forward. Not as effective on the flank. There's no need to go five at the back against Watford. They could have used the extra body up front. Richarlison as the sole forward against Watford's galoot CBs is a waste. He's not going to win aerial battles against them but without any spark from midfield there was a lot of hoofball. DCL is still seemingly not match fit- he came on late but didn't do much - they really should have put Rondon up front as a holdup man and let Richarlison run at goal.

But they didn't lose, and the point is massive.

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Everton: vs Brentford, vs Palace, @ Arsenal
Burnley: @ Spurs, @ Villa, vs Newcastle
Leeds: vs Brighton, @ Brentford

Leeds has one fewer game left, they lose any GD tiebreaker, their form is terrible, and they are depleted. All Everton need to do is get 2/9 points and Leeds need to win both. If Everton get only 1 point in the next three then Leeds need at least 4/6. If Everton get 4/9 or more Leeds are dead even if they win both.

Burnley are banged up defensively and they have the toughest run-in but they've been in better form before this week and we only need to finish ahead of one of them. Burnley also have the GD tiebreaker against Everton but with only two goal difference that reasonably could change.

Everton will likely not get anything away to Arsenal but they're very tough to beat at Goodison. A win against Brentford comes very close to eliminating Leeds even if Leeds win.

Having said that Watford-Everton was a dreadful game to watch.
 

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Watford fans didn't show up. Everton should have treated it as a home match and went for it.
Agreed. Watford also has more than half of their lineup out.

Unfortunately an attacking game just isn't something Everton can do right now. Richarlison can only do so much by himself, none of Doucore, Allan, or Delph is an attacking midfielder, Gordon has been run into the ground and looked a step slow, Gray is now showing how and why his career stalled - ball-hog and lack of situational awareness, others who might help are out hurt, etc. down the list.

There were plenty of chances. Foster had a wonder save that should have been a goal. The rest went for nought due to a lack of quality and heavy legs not getting to good balls in the box.
 

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I think Leeds are going to lose or draw against Brighton. Brighton have been flying recently, 4-1-1 in their last six including wins against Arsenal, Spurs, and United and only losing to City. Leeds are running out of players and look mentally beaten - plenty of fire but not enough focus. Their defense is also an absolute shambles right now.

Everton will know the result of that fixture before kickoff on Sunday and that could help as they can avoid relegation with a single point if Leeds loses.

Leeds' best hope IMO is that Burnley also collapses, allowing them to squeak through on the last matchday with a point total between 35-38.