Maye-day Every Day
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I won't press it, but this is a known thing. Defenders do reckless (!) stuff. It leads to injury for them and their target.
Oh, I understand that.
Players rightfully want player safety to be a bigger issue then play the game like it isn't.
Looking at that video, and the only conclusion that can be drawn is that football happens. Maye made the right play, and one that no actual NFL coaching staff is going to discourage him from making. The defender was making what would have been a clean tackle.
The only complaint I have is that officials often put the responsibility on the defender to avoid those hits even when doing so is impossible. Except this time they didn't, and I'm not buying the excuse that the officials didn't have a good angle - it's their fucking job to see the play as it happens.
The only complaint I have is that officials often put the responsibility on the defender to avoid those hits even when doing so is impossible. Except this time they didn't, and I'm not buying the excuse that the officials didn't have a good angle - it's their fucking job to see the play as it happens.
Football happens, but you can only take so many concussions and then you should retire. Ask Troy Aikman and Steve Young. Very discouraging Maye got one so early on.
Drake Maye has been playing football so long (like every guy in the league) that I would wager any amount of money that this isn't the first concussion he's had, nor the last.
I shutter to think how many concussions I saw in football practice in high school, both my own and everyone else. "Getting your bell rung" or "seeing stars" was just part of the game. It sucks, but except for a select few, almost every player in that league would be like Tua and get back on the field at the first opportunity.
All true about ignoring concussions in the old days. I played in HS also and don’t remember any player that “got his bell rung” not going back in after a few plays, if he came out of the game at all. I see Mahomes wearing that oversized helmet, googling it, the Riddell SpeedFlex. Maybe that type of helmet should become the standard for QBs, etc.
The first player I knew of leaving a game for good for a concussion was my best friend. He went off to Westfield State to play middle linebacker (he probably gave out 100 concussions in high school practice with us, hitting everything face mask first). Freshman year, he went and sat on the opposing team's bench after, they guessed, his 6th concussion in 3 games. That was the end of his football career, well that and failing out of Westfield State after his freshman year (he's doing great now though LOL).
According to my son's friends who play on the high school team, not much has really changed, except some of the drills they do. Kids are still getting their bells rung in practice.
I watched Steve Young’s last game on TV IN 1999. He got hit very hard and lay motionless on the field for a while, forget how long. Scary as hell. It was the third game of the season and he never played another game or snap. Thankfully, he recovered 100%.
this might be hot takey but if woif knew that nix wouild have 5 wins right now for a off that compares to NE everywhere but the OL nix would been your guy once u won games @ pitt and @ denver last year that meant no williams or daniels i bet peyton hits his knees every night to thank for kraft fireing bill in jan
and for the record i throuht maye was better sill might be
with nix as your qb u are 4-4 right now
and for the record i throuht maye was better sill might be
with nix as your qb u are 4-4 right now
I'm good. I wouldn't do an even swap of Maye for Nix today. If they drafted Nix, they probably still wouldn't have started him. We'll see in a few years, but I'd bet a lot more on Maye's future (if they don't fuck it up) than Nix, but who knows. I really don't care about the record this year, I want them to improve and show a future. Going 8-8 and being in the middle doesn't do anything, neither does tanking and losing. I'm fine if they have 4-6 wins and are building.
Denver's beat the 1 win Panthers, the 2 win Raiders, Jets and Saints, and a good win over Tampa. I can't say that's really encouraging. The Pats have sucked too, but the Broncos wins aren't very impressive
Sorry, j-man, but Bo Nix has largely sucked up to this point in the season. He's had his flashes, not saying this is what he'll always be, but to my eyes Maye has already looked far more impressive.
the broncos before 2024 would had lost the saints jets and bucs games the 2017-22 broncos won like 1 or 2 road games in a year
maye seems to look run first if his number 1 is not open which when he gets back needs to change because if he gets another head inj that going to hurt his career
i cant help tampa and the jets took us lighty
i also cant help 50% of the saints team was inj when we play them
my point is if woif knew this he wouild had took nix my q is what would payton had done without his mancrush
nix is getter better every week his WR this season mostly frankiln his college teammate has drop 2 wide open TD pass i aga car 1 aga vegas other than the Changer game which i will give u and the pitt game nix has played well 12 total td 5 rush 7 pass 1/3 of that yesetday
he can throw a deep ball now all he needs to do is be acc on 10-20 yard routes with denver def all payton needs is a top 15 qb i hope denver gets in the huntery heary sweepstakes i wouild give u a 3rd
I wouldn't take Bo Nix over Maye in any scenario - sorry, he's in no way, shape, or form better than Drake Maye. Nix got the opportunity to start right away and that's his only advantage.
its fair but 1 win in the next 2 weeks can seave to noice that nix is a top 15 qb because it seems like KC is only gearing up for this season because 2 of their OL are FA and kenic might retire afeft 24 unless denver loses out it seems they have a semi nice future
Will be limited today. Probably a good sign towards him playing.
View: https://twitter.com/philaperry/status/1851645920447725668?s=46&t=23orJRFkAhpzRtm4p3-oEw
View: https://twitter.com/philaperry/status/1851645920447725668?s=46&t=23orJRFkAhpzRtm4p3-oEw
Bedard gave Maye 5.5 plus plays vs. 2 minus in 11 dropbacks (the 0.5 was for the TD run), and gave Brissett 8 and 5 in 28 dropbacks.
No. He would not have been the guy. I appreciate you pumping up your guy, but I pick Maye 100 times out of 100.
It may look like hes run first in the highlights, but it really isn't true. He makes his first and second read, and if time allows, he's done a pretty good job of standing tall in the pocket for further progressions.
Agreed and he did the right thing on the play and doesn’t play reckless. It’s possibly a minor concussion from what we know. I‘m not really concerned. Running is part of the game for a large chunk of QB’s. If he doesn’t run when he needs to, he’ll never reach his potential.
This really isn't the case and there's plenty of all-22 videos out there to show this point.
Mayo said Maye can't practice for more than 30 minutes today which suggestes he's in phase 3 of 5 in the protocol.
Seems like a reasonable chance he'll play this week. I do hope the team is careful and Maye himself will be honest if symptoms occur as he ramps up.
View: https://twitter.com/ByMarkDaniels/status/1851647905464979645
Here's the 5 steps, per Reiss:
View: https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1851618826858684606
Seems like a reasonable chance he'll play this week. I do hope the team is careful and Maye himself will be honest if symptoms occur as he ramps up.
View: https://twitter.com/ByMarkDaniels/status/1851647905464979645
Here's the 5 steps, per Reiss:
View: https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1851618826858684606
I would be OK if they got him ready to play, but started Brissett. It's not like a win or a loss against the Titans is going to make or break their season.
It'll only break this forum.
And while they should only play Maye if he's 100%, if he is, I'd like to see him play against a bad Titans team. Anything that lets him build on his very good start.
Titans are also 1-6--the Pats beating them is likely going to ensure Tennessee picks ahead of us in the draft. So, depending on where you fall on that spectrum, it's a "big" game.
After week 8 2023, the Pats were tied for CHI and NYG for 3rd worst record at 2-6. Only ARI and CAR were worse with one win each. WAS was at 3-5 and ended up drafting 2; and ARI got better such that they picked 4; and CAR held serve, even though they had given the pick to CHI. Green Bay was 2-5 at the time and ended up picking 25th!
The game is potentially for 2nd place in the AFC East!
Edit: This is more commentary on the state of the AFC than the Patriots being good or anything but amusingly the Pats could plausibly jump to 10th in the conference this week with a win. They'd need Miami to lose at Buffalo, Cleveland to lose hosting LAC, Vegas to lose at Cincy and the Jags to lose to the Eagles.
Edit: This is more commentary on the state of the AFC than the Patriots being good or anything but amusingly the Pats could plausibly jump to 10th in the conference this week with a win. They'd need Miami to lose at Buffalo, Cleveland to lose hosting LAC, Vegas to lose at Cincy and the Jags to lose to the Eagles.
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Maye limited in practice today. Those of you rooting for another L and a better draft pick will be heartened by the rest of the injury report.
https://www.patriots.com/news/week-9-injury-report-patriots-at-titans
https://www.patriots.com/news/week-9-injury-report-patriots-at-titans
There is no reason to play him this week. Forget the protocol, if he had a concussion the best thing to do is play it really safe and give him the week off. The more time he avoids hits to the head after a concussion the better, so play it safe.
If he's medically cleared to play, why should he sit? I would think getting the ok for live tackling means he wouldn't benefit from an extra week off, no?
I don't trust the NFL and the best predictor of future concussions is past concussions, especially recent ones. I am being very safe, but one additional week won't hurt anything and will hopefully allow his brain more time to heal.
Edit: If they were in the playoff hunt I would 100% play him, but now, more rest makes sense.
NFL clearance vs. best practices. Clearing the minimum NFL standards is a low bar, while proximity between concussions is the crucial element for optimal recovery.
All of that additional risk vs. the minimal benefits of going 4-13 vs. 5-12.
All of that additional risk vs. the minimal benefits of going 4-13 vs. 5-12.
The ILB core is pretty depleted. Bentley is already done for the season. Elliss was a DNP yesterday and Tavai was limited. I Takitaki is also listed a limited. I see he played 9 snaps on D against HOU, sat out JAX, and only 5 snaps last week. I wonder if his limited usage is injury-related or play-related.
If he's cleared they will almost certainly play him.
The issue is the protocol more than the team. I think if they wanted to play it safe and sit him another week or two that's certainly fine and perhaps even wise but they'd have to do it across the board to every player who is in the protocol. Ja'Lynn Polk appears to be in the same phase of the protocol as Maye. If they both get cleared I don't think the team can say to one "you're too important, we're sitting you" and the other "go get 'em." I don't think that would go over well with the locker room.
The issue is the protocol more than the team. I think if they wanted to play it safe and sit him another week or two that's certainly fine and perhaps even wise but they'd have to do it across the board to every player who is in the protocol. Ja'Lynn Polk appears to be in the same phase of the protocol as Maye. If they both get cleared I don't think the team can say to one "you're too important, we're sitting you" and the other "go get 'em." I don't think that would go over well with the locker room.
I feel like the Pats best uninjured ILB's might be wearing coaches' gear on Sunday.
Hell yeah. Games with a brand new rookie QB aren't as fun as competing for championships but it can pretty damn fun. LFG!