I think there is zero chance they are worried about their jobs 5 games in. They have been very open about the plan all offseason, Kraft was obviously told what the plan was.
If you slow most landings down enough to the millisecond, some part of the foot is going to hit the grass first before the entire foot hits. Obviously it makes no sense at all for someone to have half their foot land out of bounds and be considered " in bounds" because a portion landed in bounds a split second before the rest. It's not at all comparable to a toe drag or toe tap when the rest of the foot isn't hitting the ground as part of that action.
Bo Nix is two and a half years older than Maye, and made 61 starts in college. Maye made half as many. You want Nix? Take him.
This is the second time someone has made the argument that Nix is winning games because he has more college reps than Maye.
Man, I just wish you could see the rapport that Maye has with Polk/Bourne/Pop playing as himself in Madden 2025. Trust the process.
Nobody is dismissing that viewpoint, some just disagree with it or are less risk averse than others.
So don't play any of the rookies then, because which receiver can develop with a conservative QB who is hesitant to pull the trigger and holds the ball for 3 seconds on average behind a terrible OL? How can Robinson play beside a backup center? Put everyone on the shelf by that logic.
Washington's offensive line absolutely blows and Daniels is doing just fine. Granted he has an established receiver but the Patriots win that game yesterday with Maye playing. Brissett is a total negative now. While he doesn't turn the ball over he doesn't do anything to win games either. You aren't winning games with getting 160 passing yards and frankly lots of those yards were when they needed to throw the ball. I've seen enough. They could have signed Joe Flacco for the same money and it wouldn't have looked this bad.
I don't buy the "what if the line is bad next year" argument at all. The Pats are focused on developing a QB that every single pundit and draftnik said was going to need time to develop. Bringing him along slowly on a season the team wasn't going to contend anyway was the plan from Day 1. At some point, that process will change. But there is no logical rule that says if you don't start Drake Maye in Week 5 or 6 it means you should not start him in Week 10 or Week 15 or Week 1 of 2025.
I recall Boutte making a similar mistake on a couple of sideline catches in his first game last season. But it's one thing for a rookie to make that kind of a mistake in his very first NFL game, especially given how preseason is now a joke. But Polk should have been aware of the rule by now, and does point to a coaching fail. Although I still think it was a terrible throw.
I don't believe the Pats have to outright tank for a pick. Based on how they are playing so far, they look like locks for a Top 5 pick. Any pick in the top 5 will either net them a very good player or a decent staple of lower picks.
Of course the process will change at some point because at some point he is going to be thrown out there regardless of how the line looks. So, to use your language, I don’t “buy” the pressure rate argument either. We all hope it goes down next year but he’ll be playing even if it doesn’t.
Through 4 games, Daniels' pressure rate was 15.3%, less than half of Brissett's 39.8%. His ratio of pass attempts to runs was 2.3 to 1, something that is not the plan for Maye.
What I saw from Jacoby is what I’ve always seen from Jacoby. He isn’t very good at making reads. He predetermines where he wants to go. The third down check down to Stevenson was a great play from Stevenson, but he also has a wide open receiver on the drag pass right by his face that would have easily picked up the first down.
Maye playing and they don’t have teams putting 11 players in the box. There is zero threat of Brissett throwing downfield.
This is so disingenuous as to ignore, but I'll just remind you that reps at the college level while learning how to play the position and those in the pros are....different. Everyone thought Maye was going to sit, and he is. That's not to say that he can't improve by playing right away; the disagreement is one of risk tolerance. I lean conservative, because the team isn't going anyplace anyway.
I think they should compete every year because that's what NFL players and coaches do. But I don't buy that rosters "get used to" losing because you turn over so much of the roster every year. Only 9 guys who got significant playing time in 2021 are still on the Patriots. And there are plenty of guys like Matt Stafford who were losers until they got on a good team.
On top of this Maye didn't play under center in college. So maybe they want to make sure he can successfully do that in practice first. I want Maye at this point too, but let's stop pretending there aren't good reasons they are taking it slow.
I’m with this plan. Maye needs to play, but he doesn’t need to just run for his life. The line is still shit, but approaching something representative, and I think Pop + Polk + Henry + Thornton isn’t the worst set of options. We’re close now I think….
Does the London game really make sense? Different routine, etc. I would think they would want to integrate him on as normal of a week as possible. I think it will be the Titans game.
Yeah it's interesting, different routine is for sure a concern, but also it's a bad team it's an essentially neutral crowd too which helps.
This is interesting. Define "delay". If his toe and heel hit at the same time with the heel OOB, sure, that is OOB. But there was a delay here. I'm no longer convinced it was the right call.
Maybe if they had held on against Seattle, they could at least view themselves as a competitive team that can win close games.
I read this whole thread just so I could call you an asshole for putting this out into the universe.
Mayo made the same mistake at the end of the half yesterday that he did against Seattle: completely mismanaging the clock and giving the opposition an extra opportunity to score before the half.
Yep. Agreed. We could say "well if they beat Seattle and Miami they'd be 3-2" but the reality is there are multiple reasons they lost both games.
End zone rules are the same as the field of play. It would be incomplete at the 50 yard line too.
What about this piece? "A player is inbounds if he drags his foot, or if there is a delay between the heel-toe or toe-heel touching the ground."
This team sniffed 3-2 with Brissett. A half of a literal foot yesterday and an OT loss.
That's not a delay, that's a natural step.
If he actually taps his toe it is a completion, it's only when he takes a step that is half in/ half out that they don't care which side come down a milisecond earlier.
Does it mean if he fell on his ass (and doesn't plant his foot) after getting the toes down on the second foot its a TD?
That is my understanding yes, same way if you tap toes on the sideline going out backwards it's a catch.. Lamb had to one like thats last night
This is where I am. This game was awful to watch. Would coming away having barely squeaked out a win have felt better? Sure. Would it have been celebration-worthy? God no.
