Misc. NFL Offseason News
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Between Kelce and Gonzalez..... they aren't that far apart, Kelce isn't as bad as he was, Gonzalez was never particularly good, it's a small point in Gonzo's favor, but don't think it's likely enough to offset the passcatching threat differential.
I'm not.
These guys are big slots, Gronk is King then Bavaro....then a vast break to get to Kelce and then Gonzalez.
I legit forgot ODB was on the Ravens. And for $8M? The NFL seems like such a "what-have-you-done-for-me-lately" league that I am surprised that ODB is still getting that kind of interest.
ETA: up to 8M, not sure the base/incentives. So... I guess that makes a bit more sense as a flier.
ETA: up to 8M, not sure the base/incentives. So... I guess that makes a bit more sense as a flier.
Up to $8M so guessing there are a decent amount of incentives that he probably won’t come close to reaching given he’ll be a #3 behind two target hogs but we’ll see.
Tyler Boyd to the Titans. 1yr up to 4.5mil. They're giving Levis some nice options down there.
https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1787889883878457710
https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1787889883878457710
I like what the Titans are doing a little too much and might embarrass myself in the preseason predictions thread when we get there.
This sucks tbh. He was such a great teammate on the field. Played hurt his last year in college. I have nothing but positive memories watching him play and was excited for his future. I hope he matures and fast
. I am rooting for this young man to turn it around and fast!
This is interesting. It may be commonplace and I just hadn't heard about it before, but the Bills hired ex-ref John Parry (edit: he of Brady intentional grounding in the Super Bowl infamy) as an officiating consultant.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40140015/sources-john-parry-leaving-espn-new-role-bills
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40140015/sources-john-parry-leaving-espn-new-role-bills
I think the Goff contract is fine, he's a top-12 guy who can perform within the confines of a system at a high level. The Lions have the pieces to contend, it would make zero sense to start over at QB. See what Hendon Hooker is (even though he's old already) and if he sucks, there's still time to try to find another guy before those four years are up. And if you don't, Goff will still be young enough by then. I think he's among the most underrated players in football.
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Hurts
Herbert
Lamar
Tua
Rodgers
Stroud
Purdy
Stafford
Are imho clearly better
I guessit can be argued he’s better than Jlaw, Dak, Love, Murray, Arich and Baker (or all except 1 to be top 12)
stats aren’t everything of course, but Goff was 7th in ANY/A, 9th in passer rating, 8th in TD%, 7th in completion%. His big drawbacks are obviously the lack of running and being 19th in INT% (although higher than Stafford, Mahomes, Tua, Purdy, Hurts and Allen). He was very good in the playoffs last year (unlike Tua and Purdy)
I don’t think it’s clear at all that Hurts, Tua or Purdy are better. And declining (albeit still very good) Stafford is close although I’d still put him above Goff
there’s a big tier of “quality starters surrounded by premium talent” (toss Prescott in there) and I don’t see much differentiation between that group. Once you get beyond the obviously better guys and the really old guys who have shown to be much better (but who might also fall off), there’s 10 or so guys who are all pretty comparable.
agreed on that last sentence. It’s baffling why Goff isn’t routinely considered to be a very good starting QB. Not elite, but he’s had 4 very good/great years. Even his 2021 season was solid given the circumstances.
I think he gets overlooked because he doesn’t have the future hall of fame track record or the youth/still unrealized potential of many of the other guys. He’s just a very good, probably hit-his-ceiling, starting QB.
maybe people still think of him as a bust or underwhelming given being the #1 pick and having a couple of mediocre years with the Rams. Or maybe his poor Super Bowl performance in 2018 is still on people’s minds. Or maybe he’s not exciting enough - no running ability and not a ton of highlight worthy off platform stuff. But he’s a very good starting QB who seems to be regarded as a placeholder or a mediocrity
I think it’s the Rams SB performance, getting traded, then the Rams winning it all with Stafford. Fully agree though - one of the most underrated players in the league.
I think we might also be biased since 2 out of the last three times he’s played the Patriots his team has scored a combined 3 points after coming in averaging like 30+ points per game. (Not counting the 2020 season since who cares or remembers that year)
If you consider age, ability to avoid serious injury, and established history of performing in high-pressure situations, I think you could list Goff ahead of Tua, Rodgers and Herbert and seriously consider putting him ahead of Burrow until Joe Cool can go two years in a row without a devastating injury. You could also at least consider putting him ahead of Purdy until we're sure Purdy is not just a Shanahan confection and Hurts given the way the Eagles' season went last year.
I'd take him over Hurts, Tua and Purdy any day of the week. But sure, Dak is better right now and Lawrence and Love are good bets to be better next year. So about 12 is perfectly right.
Love looks promising but I don’t know that Lawrence is a good bet to be better. He was significantly worse last year and has a worse supporting cast (much worse if Brian Thomas doesn’t pan out immediately).
Goff has a tougher slate of divisional games on paper (though so does Love) but I think Lawrence is still riding his #1 overall pick hype. He’s shown flashes of being very good. He also has a lot of very mediocre play and if the justification for that is supporting cast, I don’t know that it has improved a whole lot
I think it is best that if there is discussion on what Butker said, they are taken to V&N. He may be a football player but there is nothing football related there.
Anyone curious what the Chiefs kicker said at a commencement can google it.
Anyone curious what the Chiefs kicker said at a commencement can google it.
Lawrence lost more EPA to drops than any other QB last year, he was much better than his stats would indicate. I think odds are he'll already be a better player next year, just don't know how the numbers (advanced or otherwise) will shake up. He just can do more than Goff, and I'm not talking just in terms of physical talent, I think he's a more aggressive thrower with more creativity in structure. He's also way more inconsistent with his accuracy, but Goff isn't great at pinpointing passes towards the sidelines either, even though he's a much better MOF thrower at this point (probably one of the best in football). It's close for 2024.
Giants unveil special 100th anniversary money grab commemorative uniforms
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Damn. I'm sure the Cards are psyched that their 1st Rd pick is spending time getting sued already.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40174859/fanatics-files-suit-cardinals-wr-marvin-harrison-jr
Didn't see this coming with the Sr and Jr Harrison, although, in retrospect, perhaps I should have.
A couple months ago, I would have anticipated something like this happening with a different top-pick-who-was-being-repped-by-his-dad: Caleb Williams.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40174859/fanatics-files-suit-cardinals-wr-marvin-harrison-jr
Didn't see this coming with the Sr and Jr Harrison, although, in retrospect, perhaps I should have.
A couple months ago, I would have anticipated something like this happening with a different top-pick-who-was-being-repped-by-his-dad: Caleb Williams.
“I’m just going to take things slowly,” Parker said.
Yeah, we know you will, DeVante.
His salary was guaranteed and it was a cut, so no. I think if he had retired as a Patriot pre-cut, they would have saved about $3 million.
I stand corrected — Miguel reports this morning that Parker’s contract had a clause that excepted 2024 salary from the guarantees if Parker retired from football. So, the Patriots will get a credit of about $3 million.
Parker by retiring walks away from about $4.3 million this year. When I read the “time with family,” it sounded a bit disingenuous when it looked like he would be taking $3.2 million not to play. But it looks like he is serious. I guess $4 million doesn’t mean as much when you’ve made $50 million in a career.
Nice, that’s good news and good for him- to walk away from that kind of money can’t be easy. But if the thrill is gone, it’s gone.
Eh. He was mid for almost his entire career, except for one major outlier season that he turned into a bunch of paychecks.
I wish him nothing but the best because I have no hate in my heart. He made 57 million by being a 500 yard receiver. That is well done. But fuck him too. He was terrible with the Pats.
He was bad last year but he wasn’t terrible in 2022 by any stretch. Over 17 yards per catch and a 66% catch with over 11 yards per target despite having a disaster around him.
All of those numbers are better than KJ Osborn and are on par with Chris Hogan’s 2016 season which nobody would call terrible.
That $3M credit is no chump change for the cap. Could end up offsetting some of these incentives.