Nadia and Nastia’s Nest, 2020 Summer Olympics Gymnastics

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learned tonight that she hasn't been allowed to take her ADD meds since she's been in Japan because of their drug laws. That must suuuuuuuck.
 

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learned tonight that she hasn't been allowed to take her ADD meds since she's been in Japan because of their drug laws. That must suuuuuuuck.
That does suck. Olympic participants should have diplomatic immunity, IMHO.
 

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Biles withdraws from Bars and Vault. Still TBA for Beam and Floor.
Skinner (and Carey?) replace her.
I think Skinner is the only replacement. In the remaining events, the U.S. didn't have someone at 9th or better who got bumped who can slot in for Biles.
 

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learned tonight that she hasn't been allowed to take her ADD meds since she's been in Japan because of their drug laws. That must suuuuuuuck.
This article (updated with information provided by Team USA) reports that exceptions are allowed for athletes at Tokyo.
 

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Watching the Men's Floor exercise finals on NBC this afternoon. No real spoiler, but man I guess the pressure is getting to these guys, because these performances are pretty poor by these guys standards so far
 

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I’m not sure how many events are left to go, but if I’m the coach of team USA , I would have just sent her home. And call in a reserve if that’s an option. It’s become such a huge distraction/joke on social media, I’d be worried she’s going to have another episode on the beam if she actually ends up doing it. Once she pulled out she should have gone home to concentrate on herself. Instead of this day to day will she / won’t she , last hour withdrawals.
 

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What was that grunting noise when the two Chinese gymnasts were on the uneven bars? Chinese coaches?
 

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I’m not sure how many events are left to go, but if I’m the coach of team USA , I would have just sent her home. And call in a reserve if that’s an option. It’s become such a huge distraction/joke on social media, I’d be worried she’s going to have another episode on the beam if she actually ends up doing it. Once she pulled out she should have gone home to concentrate on herself. Instead of this day to day will she / won’t she , last hour withdrawals.
if you haven’t yet, please read McKayla Maroney’s recent Twitter threads & Instagram stories about the abusive she & her teammates suffered while is US Gymnastics’ care. And then realize that this organization has zero moral authority to tell survivors like Biles what to do or how to handle herself.

 

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I took a lot of heat in this thread last week for suggesting Biles be mindful of those who she beat out to compete in Tokyo. After seeing the dust settle, and the drama play out, I’ll say this;

1. I stand by my assertion that within the sport community, those people still matter. Maybe that’s just a personal thing for me, but I’ll continue to take their side. The things I had to say about not “wasting” or “hoarding” Olympic start spots still stand (and yes, those things happen, often maliciously), but they very much do NOT apply to Simone Biles in 2021…

2. By all accounts, Biles has been very mindful of the value of the positions she occupied, and at least as pertains to those alternates present in Tokyo has respected that to the point where she has withdrawn from events in a timely manner and allowed others to compete, and win medals, in her place. I have enormous respect for her for doing so.

3. (And this is the part I wasn’t clear enough on previously) The ONLY thing Simone Biles ever owed - to those she beat for the right to compete, the USOPC, the American People, her sponsors, the Gymnastics Gods, the honor of sport, ANYONE - was to show up in Tokyo and make a bona fide effort to complete. I would say without a single bit of hesitation that she clearly did that, and by doing that honored everyone behind her. Once again, I have enormous respect for her for doing so - and in a way that shows she never took the circumstances and the value of her presence lightly.
 
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You keep repeating #1 as if you’re the only one who cares about fellow humans outside of celebrities. It’s a strawman. The issue at hand was you were demanding Biles owed something, as if she had done something wrong.

Even if Biles had decided that she couldn’t participate in a single event this week, she would have made a bona fide effort to compete.
 

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You keep repeating #1 as if you’re the only one who cares about fellow humans outside of celebrities. It’s a strawman. The issue at hand was you were demanding Biles owed something, as if she had done something wrong.
That’s the part I did a poor job of getting across. She owed ONE thing, and ONLY one thing; a bona fide effort to compete - which she clearly made. Her subsequent words and actions built on that, and gained her even more respect and understanding.

Even if Biles had decided that she couldn’t participate in a single event this week, she would have made a bona fide effort to compete.
Completely agreed. The fact she did compete, and competed well, is testament to how seriously she takes her place on the Olympic program, but she didn’t need to do that in order to convince me.
 

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Nikita Nagornyy apparently did all his event finals while feverish and trying to pass a kidney stone. No wonder he looked a bit off.
 

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Watching a couple clips from Rhythmic gymnastics and I am confused why "regular" gymnastics is now called Artistic. Rhythmic seems much more artistic, small a. Other than floor, and perhaps the beam/rings/pommel, it ["regular/traditional"] is not really "artistic" per se.

Maybe "Athletic" gymnastics is better? But then maybe that's not true when you compare it with Trampoline. They need a better name than Artistic.
 

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Watching a couple clips from Rhythmic gymnastics and I am confused why "regular" gymnastics is now called Artistic. Rhythmic seems much more artistic, small a. Other than floor, and perhaps the beam/rings/pommel, it ["regular/traditional"] is not really "artistic" per se.

Maybe "Athletic" gymnastics is better? But then maybe that's not true when you compare it with Trampoline. They need a better name than Artistic.
Artistic Gymnastics has been the sport name since at least 1903 when the first World Artistic Gymnastics Championship was held. Obviously the sport has evolved over time. People just never bothered much with the other gymnastics elements so didn't bother to use the full name

Much in the same way we still have figure skating, despite eliminating figures over 30 years ago.