NBA 20/21 season thread

lostjumper

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It's unfortunate that Kyrie is such a headcase. He's got a lot of basketball talent, but he almost seems to be getting to the classification of mental illness at this point. Ordinarily, you'd have thought he'd make it through at least half a season in his new, self-chosen situation before flaking out (I don't really count last year - as it was quite the aberration). But, here we are, and he already doesn't get along with his coach and his self-chosen duo. Is there any situation where this guy can succeed?
I think we are too quick to attribute mental illness to someone who acts differently than we expect. It does a disservice to those with true mental illness. I'm with Red on this one, I think he's simply a narcissistic asshole. I'm enjoying watching the situation around him collapse. So happy that he got away from the Celtics young talent.
 

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So Cleveland now has Drummond and Jarrett Allen? Allen can't slide to the 4, can he?
 

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Porter has a lot of talent. If the Cavs want Carsen Edwards, Boston could take a chance on him.
 

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Porter has a lot of talent. If the Cavs want Carsen Edwards, Boston could take a chance on him.
No idea if the C's are interested in Porter, but their team culture seems incredibly strong, and I'm guessing one donkey wouldn't break it.
 

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No idea if the C's are interested in Porter, but their team culture seems incredibly strong, and I'm guessing one donkey wouldn't break it.
Porter seems like an awful fit here. In most places actually. You don’t need a kid like that around a team looking to contend.
 

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Porter seems like an awful fit here. In most places actually. You don’t need a kid like that around a team looking to contend.
Couldn't agree more.

Kid couldn't fake his way through one year at USC. Can't stand out on a pretty bad Cleveland team. Can't stay on the straight and narrow.

He'll hit rock bottom someday and hopefully snap his head on straight, but until then who needs the headache.

How much of a fuckup do you have to be to get suspended in your one and done year at USC?
 

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Couldn't agree more.

Kid couldn't fake his way through one year at USC. Can't stand out on a pretty bad Cleveland team. Can't stay on the straight and narrow.

He'll hit rock bottom someday and hopefully snap his head on straight, but until then who needs the headache.

How much of a fuckup do you have to be to get suspended in your one and done year at USC?
Ceiling JR Smith?
Floor Eddie Griffin?
 

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Damn, sounds like good news I guess. Between several major injuries dating back to college, and now this, he has had a really rough go of it.
 

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Any idea on recovery time? Probably a season ender, no?
Obviously we don't know the details but if it was small he probably had laparoscopic surgery and recovery time might not be too long. Sounds like there was no evidence of spread so he won't be on chemo or anything, just has to heal from the surgery (and the stress of everything). He's not going to be back in a week or anything but I would think he should be back this season if he doesn't have any setbacks.

Honestly he's just super lucky he got traded at the right time. I assume it was discovered incidentally, probably on a lumbar spine MRI. This is always one of the big concerns radiologists are worried about missing at the edge of the field of view on lumbar spine MRI's, as catching renal cell early has good prognosis but once it has spread the prognosis is not good.

Either that or he got a routine urine sample that had blood in it, and then he got some dedicated renal imaging for that reason.

Regardless, very fortunate for LaVert. The reports say "small", and under 3-4 cm they are unlikely to have already spread.
 

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IND must have really wanted to get rid of Oladipo
They needed to get something for him after the offseason. Even if it is just LaVert, it's a long term player that they can point to when people bring up the Hayward fiasco.
 

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They could have had Hayward on a reasonable contract (given the way he's playing now). But Pritchard. Sigh.
Yeah, when Boston let out that they would have taken Oladipo the whole saga became bizarre. Pritchard was offered the hometown hero on a massive discount and all it would have cost him was a guy that didn't want to be there at all and who was leaving in free agency come hell or high water. But he just dug in and wrecked his relationship with Bartelstein all to be able to strut around and brag about "pritchslapping" Ainge. He's seriously whacked.


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Sounds like NOP are very interested in moving off Reddick and Ball.

Not a big surprise, Reddick looks like being 36 finally caught up to him, and Ball is yet another guard who can't shoot.
Ball might be interesting if the cost were low. If Larranaga could turn him into a league average shooter it would leave him one miracle from sainthood.
 

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Sounds like NOP are very interested in moving off Reddick and Ball.

Not a big surprise, Reddick looks like being 36 finally caught up to him, and Ball is yet another guard who can't shoot.
Hmm. 30% from deep on 5.3 attempts/game after being absolutely elite for the last several years. Either some SSS weirdness or he completely fell off the cliff. Maybe a little or both.

I’m pretty cap illiterate so I don’t know if it could work, but I’d happily take a flyer on him if the price was low.
 

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Hmm. 30% from deep on 5.3 attempts/game after being absolutely elite for the last several years. Either some SSS weirdness or he completely fell off the cliff. Maybe a little or both.
I'm sure it's both, but he is a guy you'd expect to hit his cliff fairly hard given how much of an emphasis on constant motion there is in his game.
 

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I'm sure it's both, but he is a guy you'd expect to hit his cliff fairly hard given how much of an emphasis on constant motion there is in his game.
Yeah, Father Time remains undefeated. Even Brady will eventually lose, even if it's just a 15 round split decision.
 

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Can someone explain to me why Lonzo Ball is taking 7 3’s per game? I mean, holy shit.

(he’s making 29% of them)
 

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Obviously we don't know the details but if it was small he probably had laparoscopic surgery and recovery time might not be too long. Sounds like there was no evidence of spread so he won't be on chemo or anything, just has to heal from the surgery (and the stress of everything). He's not going to be back in a week or anything but I would think he should be back this season if he doesn't have any setbacks.

Honestly he's just super lucky he got traded at the right time. I assume it was discovered incidentally, probably on a lumbar spine MRI. This is always one of the big concerns radiologists are worried about missing at the edge of the field of view on lumbar spine MRI's, as catching renal cell early has good prognosis but once it has spread the prognosis is not good.

Either that or he got a routine urine sample that had blood in it, and then he got some dedicated renal imaging for that reason.

Regardless, very fortunate for LaVert. The reports say "small", and under 3-4 cm they are unlikely to have already spread.
Great they found early. Bigger concern to me would be the path being medullary rcc, known to affect young black people. It is more aggressive by far. The early scan may have saved his life as we often see these people after it has all ready spread.

But a robo partial keeps the 60 yo weekend warrior out 3-4 weeks from anything strenuous. He is younger but I suspect NBA level basketball offsets that. If recovery goes smooth I could see a month to 6 weeks.
 

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Good call on the medullary RCC... definitely a possibility. And even more “lucky” for Lavert that they caught it when it was small without any known spread.

Was generally thinking he would be out a month or two, so I would very much doubt his season is over unless something unexpected happens.
 

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Can someone explain to me why Lonzo Ball is taking 7 3’s per game? I mean, holy shit.

(he’s making 29% of them)
He hit 37% of them last year on 6/game, and drastically overhauled his form. The expectation was that he’d be able to keep progressing.

I’m a Lonzo hater, but I think there’s still an interesting player there, and his shot has a reasonable base to work from now.
 

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is there any way to take on Beal or is his salary being 100k over the trade exception make that impossible?
You can go $100k over the value of the TPE, but Beal’s salary ($28.75 million) is just a bit over even that amount (Hayward’s salary is $28.5 million, so the max we can fit into the TPE is $28.6 million).
 

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You have to include Kemba in the deal is the reality. Given they have Westbrook in place, that basically means you'd need a three-way deal.

I really can't see a construction that would get us there---finally out of all that juicy draft-pick capital.