I loved him as a value pick coming out of UK. He was super young and had the ability to create his shot. His issue back then was understanding defense which is most 18-yr olds but he also struggled with shot selection and really understanding how an offense should flow. In other words, the last couple times I’ve seen him play was a microcosm of his career in appearing totally lost on both ends of the floor.
umm... he graded out as an all-time bad rookie for a 1st rounder, he was absolutely terrible, I can't imagine describing anything about his rookie year as promising.
Thrown into an NBA rotation as a 19-year old on a lottery team......what could possibly go wrong?
lots but at the same time, most high draft picks go to bad teams, most of them get a lot of minutes, most of them are young, but even by those standards he was terrible, and he's continued to be really bad with limited minutes. Maybe Thibs will fix him, his year last year was very very limited minutes-wise, but the shooting was good. Knox was an good but not elite prospect who probably went too early, then he struggled badly to adjust to the NBA. His most likely destination is Europe.
He never should have been playing as a 19-yr old rookie was my point as he wasn’t an elite talent. He was a raw project who needed a couple years to learn the league and ramp up to speed. Instead he was set up to fail. I agree he is going to end up overseas and even after 3-4 years there he’ll still just be entering his supposed prime. Of course, we know nothing about his makeup or where his head is at so there’s that.
Apparently Madar's club won an arbitration case so he is still under contract to them. The club did give him permission to play in SL: https://celticswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/22/nba-boston-celtics-madar-permission-vegas-summer-league/.
I don’t typically evaluate the promise of a 19 year old by his statistical efficiency.
I'm curious what you looked at in Knox and thought looked promising? It wasn't just his efficiency, he didn't appear to have any NBA skills.
I don’t typically look at a 19 year old for finished NBA skills. I thought that he had a projectable NBA body and shooting mechanics.
In shoes. He was 6'4" and change in his bare feet, which was the NBA mandated height to use in the official measurements.
He wasn’t ready mentally or physically to compete against NBA rotational 3’s. He was still good at shot creation but not in a comfort zone to be able to make those shots. That was his one NBA ready skill but on its own that doesn’t do anything.
Most Euroleague teams are fine with their players working out with NBA coaches. It just means that they get a better player back after.
They won't sign him unless he accepts a two-way because it would be a multi-year contract and they are refusing to add any salary for next year.
Is there enough money on a two way to pay his buyout? If he’s good enough to help this team, they should ship out Edwards or Fernando with a second rounder to a team with cap room and sign Madar.
From a developmental standpoint he's probably better off working with Boston's coaches in Portland. But his upside is likely 3rd string PG, and that's not enough to use the MLE on. I'm not sure how much longer his team in the IPL holds his contract, but if they have his rights in '23 than it's not likely that he'll be over then, either, because I expect Begarin to get that partial MLE contract next summer to refine his game (in Portland) after a year in France's A League.
Madar’s not really good enough to help. He was a PG in a low level league who didn’t even dominate it like Campazzo did in a higher league and we saw him as a nice 2nd unit guy. He needs to continue improving physically as it does look like he’s gained some weight from two years ago. His upside is competing for backup minutes with Pritchard and whoever else we add. So not worth the trouble it could create with the cap.
Correct. I don’t see Stevens spending money on anyone who isn’t ready to make an NBA impact this season.
It sounded like Stevens tried to get the Mavs to take back more money than Brown’s in guaranteed contract in the Richardson trade. I’d have to think that it was Edwards. I sure would like to add a wing bigger than Tatum to the roster. Is there anyone out there better than Parker?
Better than Parker is an interesting question. The answer is definitely yes (Millsap comes to mind) but if we mean better and possibly available on the minimum probably comes down to what skills you want.
Any chance that the Spurs don’t want Thaddeus Young whom they took back in the DeRozan trade and that he could be absorbed into an expanded Tristan Thompson deal?
This looks set up for Pritchard to absolutely dominate ( not that this means much).
I don't know. Summer league tends to get a little run-and-gun ragged, with players more interested in proving their individual worth than playing team ball. I think Pritchard works better inside an organized offense. If anything, I'm thinking he might go wallflower a bit.
It’s also guard-dominated so if the ball is in his hands he’s going to be involved in many PNR and open court opportunities. I see it both ways.
Yeah remember Waters and Edwards looking like NBA players in summer league? Any real NBA players look awesome in SL. Even marginal guys usually look awesome in SL.
Edwards and Tremont might have been NBA players right now if they hadn't lost their jumper and been an absolute turnover machine, respectively.
Definitely could happen. But I'm just reminding folks that the bar for "looks great in summer league" is pretty low, and a guy like Pritchard should absolutely look great. He's not an NBA beast yet, if he ever will be, but he's on the right side of the bell curve of guys who play in summer league.
I doubt Hayes would agree to play SL for a team with no open roster spots. He’s old for SL as well and the style of play wouldn’t showcase him well. He’ll probably keep looking to latch on somewhere prior to training camp or return overseas.
Both the 7-day and 14-day average of cases in Las Vegas are on the decline so there’s that. They were one of the first hit with Delta.....which isn’t at all surprising.
Yeah, combo of tourists, the weather keeping everyone indoors, and half the people not being vaxxed, it's a minor miracle we didn't get hit bigger by the first wave than we did
He is a joy to watch. Cade is fun to watch as well.
